[Bug 1448714] New: [PATCH] Pulseaudio updated translation

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1448714

Bug ID: 1448714
           Summary: [PATCH] Pulseaudio updated translation
           Product: Fedora Localization
         Component: French [fr]
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
        QA Contact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Created attachment 1276869
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French patch

Hello,
the french translation of pulseaudio hasn't been updated in years.
It is missing some strings and has some typos and mistakes (apparently some of
the english text has been rearranged or modified).

I have made a patch, but I don't know where to send it.
Since the last modification was from the fedora fr team, I'll try here.

Feel free to review it and use it.

Best regards.

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--- Comment #1 from slatchurie  ---
Created attachment 1277092
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fr.po

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Edouard Duliège  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Edouard Duliège  ---
Hi,

If you want to contribute to the translation of Fedora, please check:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_French_Team

We will be glad if you can fix the mistakes you're talking about directly on
Zanata ;)

Cheers

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--- Comment #3 from slatchurie  ---
Hello,
actually I have checked the translation on Zanata and the only mistake I have
spotted is "Headphones" which should be translated to "Casque audio" or
"Casque" instead of "Casques analogiques" (there was "Analog headphones" some
years ago but it has been deleted, and the plural is wrong).
I am not sure if I want to join a translation team just for this.

Now, it seems there is a bigger issue. This translation is more up to date than
the one I have found on the github repo of pulseaudio.

It seems your translations aren't forwarded to the pulseaudio project.

Here is the header of the .po file I have found on Zanata :

# Robert-André Mauchin , 2008.
    # Michaël Ughetto <telimektar esraonline com>, 2008.
    # Pablo Martin-Gomez , 2008.
    # Corentin Perard , 2009.
    # Thomas Canniot , 2009, 2012.
    # Sam Friedmann , 2016. #zanata
    # Wim Taymans , 2016. #zanata
    msgid ""
    msgstr ""
    "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
    "Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n"
    "POT-Creation-Date: 2015-10-06 16:57+0200\n"
    "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
    "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
    "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
    "PO-Revision-Date: 2016-03-08 03:54-0500\n"
    "Last-Translator: Sam Friedmann \n"
    "Language-Team: French \n"
    "Language: fr\n"
    "Plural-Forms: nplurals=2; plural=n>1;\n"
    "X-Generator: Zanata 3.9.6\n"

And here is the one on the pulseaudio github :

# French translation of pulseaudio.
    # Copyright (C) 2006-2008 Lennart Poettering
    # This file is distributed under the same license as the pulseaudio
package.
    #
    #
    # Robert-André Mauchin , 2008.
    # Michaël Ughetto <telimektar esraonline com>, 2008.
    # Pablo Martin-Gomez , 2008.
    # Corentin Perard , 2009.
    # Thomas Canniot , 2009, 2012.
    #
    msgid ""
    msgstr ""
    "Project-Id-Version: pulseaudio trunk\n"
    "Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n"
    "POT-Creation-Date: 2012-01-30 10:10+0000\n"
    "PO-Revision-Date: 2012-01-30 09:53+0000\n"
    "Last-Translator: Thomas Canniot \n"
    "Language-Team: French \n"
    "Language: fr\n"
    "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
    "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
    "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
    "Plural-Forms: nplurals=2; plural=n>1;\n"
    "X-Generator: Lokalize 1.0\n"

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--- Comment #4 from Edouard Duliège  ---
I corrected the mistake, thanks for underlining it.

Ok so here is the thing: the translations on Zanata are done by members of
Fedora, but not specifically for Fedora. Each traduction has to be pulled by
each project.

In that perspective, you want to report a bug against pulseaudio and ask them
to pull the translations from Zanata. It will then be incorporated in the next
version, which will then be packaged by Fedora.

It's a little bit cumbersome, but it is unfortunately the way it is.

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--- Comment #5 from slatchurie  ---
Thanks.

I have sent your .po file to pulseaudio's bugzilla.

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--- Comment #6 from Edouard Duliège  ---
Thank you very much!

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--- Comment #7 from Tanu Kaskinen  ---
Hi, an upstream pulseaudio developer here. I was not aware of the existence of
Zanata until slatchurie submitted the translation update to our bugzilla. It
sounds like Fedora folks are writing translations, but they aren't being used,
because nobody is forwarding the translations to upstream.

It seems weird to me to add projects to fedora.zanata.org without also setting
up a process for forwarding the translations to upstream. Is this a common
practice, or just a mistake that was made only with pulseaudio?

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--- Comment #8 from jibecfed  ---
(In reply to Tanu Kaskinen from comment #7)
> It seems weird to me to add projects to fedora.zanata.org without also
> setting up a process for forwarding the translations to upstream. Is this a
> common practice, or just a mistake that was made only with pulseaudio?

Surprising indeed, because we are loosing useful contribution (and wasting some
time...)!

It looks like it was known by the Fedora community in September 2013 when
Fedora had to use Zanata:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]/...

Let's ask the current maintainer. Btw, last update was 27/06/16 12:08 by
wtaymans.

Anyway, it may be the right moment to set-up a connection from a translation
platform with your tool?

Here I can read why you left Transifex:
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Comm...

Lennart Poettering said in this thread it was a problem with the way the
commits where handled:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/163023.html

Please have a look at Zanata's documentation to see if it suits you. Or have a
look to alternatives like Weblate - http://hosted.weblate.org/ (or
http://pootle.translatehouse.org/ and https://pontoon.mozilla.org/, but I am
unsure there is a public hosting).

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--- Comment #9 from Tanu Kaskinen  ---
(In reply to jibecfed from comment #8)
> Anyway, it may be the right moment to set-up a connection from a translation
> platform with your tool?

Our tool? Do you mean our project? Yes, every moment is the right moment to
improve the translation workflow :)
> Here I can read why you left Transifex:
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/
> Community/
>
> Lennart Poettering said in this thread it was a problem with the way the
> commits where handled:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/163023.html
>
> Please have a look at Zanata's documentation to see if it suits you. Or have
> a look to alternatives like Weblate - http://hosted.weblate.org/ (or
> http://pootle.translatehouse.org/ and https://pontoon.mozilla.org/, but I am
> unsure there is a public hosting).

It would be desirable to get commits/patches from the translation system with
the translator being credited in the commit's author field. If I understood
correctly, the lack of this was Lennart's complaint about Transifex, and based
on reading some of Zanata's documentation, Zanata doesn't seem better in this
regard. Weblate looks like it might be a good fit. Thanks for the suggestion!

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--- Comment #10 from Piotr Drąg  ---
I believe PulseAudio was added to fedora.zanata.org to allow updating
translations specifically for RHEL, and it has nothing to do with upstream.

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