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Presentation: Lucas Landim, Brazilian portuguese
by Lucas 15 Jul '14

15 Jul '14

Name: Lucas Landim Location: SP, Brazil Language: Potuguese Profession: Unix Support Analyst About me: I work with mission critical servers like RHEL, Solaris and AIX. I have learned Linux at high school sometime in 2005 using Conectiva and Kurumin Linux. I have contributed in some projects like PABX IP Meucci, Elastix, Trixbox, Vero LibreOffice spell checker and the translation of Freepbx to Brazilian portuguese. Me and the Fedora project: Actually I belong to freemedia team, I always distribute Linux CDs to my friends and co-workers... People always borrow CDs and never give them back... so I've decided to give them instead of lending. I have just one condiction: to share the media and help new users! It's very cool to see that one person that you've "converted to the dark side" convert other people as well and it spread Linux like a virus! Nowadays I would like to help to translate Fedora too :) GPG KEYID and fingerprint: [landim@fedora ~]$ gpg --fingerprint landim(a)fedoraproject.org pub 2048R/F09465B2 2014-07-15 Key fingerprint = 90D3 C16A 1347 C2D6 84B5 19A9 55CB AA3D F094 65B2 uid Lucas Landim Pinheiro (Fedora) < landim(a)fedoraproject.org> sub 2048R/40E07BC8 2014-07-15

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Re: Transifex has become proprietary
by Tommy He 15 Jul '14

15 Jul '14

Hi, Maybe it was mentioned before but are we really going to migrate to Zanata before F21 release? I saw the high level schedule on Wiki[1]. As a lot of new things and changes coming to F21, I'm kind of hoping not rushing migration before F21. Just play safe, we can start migration afterwards. Here are my concerns to migrate to Zanata BEFORE F21 release: 1. Infra and Web team will probably be busy to support the changes in Fedora.next. In case of anything wrong with Zanata migration, we may not have enough hands to help. 2. I don't have concrete number but it would be safe to assume that current users of Fedora Transifex Hub are significantly larger than public Zanata instance. We don't know how Zanata would cope with such a high demands during F21 translation window. Giving now it was powered by OpenShift, in theory it shouldn't be a problem to scale up. But hey, we'd better be caution. 3. So far this message is only relayed to few translation mailing lists and the talk with Zanata team is just started. And the season of translating will start next Monday! :) Not much time for us to come up a tangible migration plan. Nevertheless, it's not like Transifex will going to charge us a large $$$ or shut us off. Thus really no need to rush things down before F21. We can make it a phase-by-phase plan. The last thing I would want to see is a surprise during migration cause loss of precious history or credit. Shall we take the opportunity of FLOCK to discuss this more thoroughly? Since we have never rejected a CC-licensed PhotoShop-ed wallpaper contest submission, or a PO translation edited by TextMate, Transifex going proprietary shouldn't post a threat to our 4Fs IMHO. I'm also supporting mitigation to Zanata if it can bring us better integration with FAS and more streamlined translation workflow. Regards, Tommy [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata#Move_To_Zanata_Schedule_… On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > (2014年07月12日 03:20), Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:48:42 +1000 >> Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> >> ...snip... >> >> Btw, unless Infrastructure team needs to track this discussion for >>> some maintenance reason, can we discuss at trans list only as many of >>> translators have not subscribed infrastructure list? >>> >> >> Thats fine with me for the most part, but one final question here: >> > > Kevin, no need to be final question, rather I like to hear any concern of > Infra. > I just do not wish to let any discussion go on and decision to be made for > this issue at Infra at lists without majority of translators. > > > >> From the discussion it looks like moving to zanata is coming out as the >> best plan moving forward? >> > > Some packages have already used zanata, as well some fedora books authors > (docs team) have also used zanata. Therefore many of translators are > familiar with zanata than any other tool. I see a number of people > supporting zanata in this list as well trans at lists. > I will make sure that translators do reach the consensus on this. > > > >> If so, is that moving to an existing zanata instance that is being run >> for us? Or is that talking about fedora infrastructure creating such an >> instance? >> > > I've added this item in the list [1], and will keep you in the loop. > > > >> I'm fine with us moving to a hosted instance if translators and >> websites folks all agree that is the best way forward, but I am not >> really comfortable running our own instance. >> > > Let me ask a few things here. > Should we include websites team for discussion? > You are saying 'not comfortable', does that mean not enough resource on > Infra team? > > [1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata#Concerns > > Thanks > > noriko > > > > >> kevin >> >> > _______________________________________________ > infrastructure mailing list > infrastructure(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure > -- Take a Deep Breath out of Windows https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lovenemesis

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translation
by zlanja nja 11 Jul '14

11 Jul '14

im interesting in translating fedora aplication on croation lenguage but i can`t finde team mailing list -- A coward is incapable of exhibiting love; it is the prerogative of the brave. ...

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Re: Transifex has become proprietary
by Marcelo Barbosa 11 Jul '14

11 Jul '14

Kevin, I believe that migration will occur was created a plan [1], but I believe the others in CC's will provide you with more precise information about where this running this current instance of Zanata [2], I only realized in the production url he suffered an update to its latest version. [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata [2]:https://translate.zanata.org/ Thanks, firemanxbr On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:48:42 +1000 > Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > ...snip... > > > Btw, unless Infrastructure team needs to track this discussion for > > some maintenance reason, can we discuss at trans list only as many of > > translators have not subscribed infrastructure list? > > Thats fine with me for the most part, but one final question here: > > From the discussion it looks like moving to zanata is coming out as the > best plan moving forward? > > If so, is that moving to an existing zanata instance that is being run > for us? Or is that talking about fedora infrastructure creating such an > instance? > > I'm fine with us moving to a hosted instance if translators and > websites folks all agree that is the best way forward, but I am not > really comfortable running our own instance. > > kevin >

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Pablo Wagner - Spanish
by Pablo Fabian Wagner Boian 10 Jul '14

10 Jul '14

Hi. My name is Pablo Wagner and I would like to participate in the L10N Fedora Project, since I'm having a bit of extra time. I am from Argentina. My FAS login name is "pablow" without quotes. The language I'm willing to assist in is Spanish. I'm currently a university student, Physics, Professor Grade. I was trying to assist a friend with a Fedora Installation, he doesn't know a thing about English, so I've realised that it would be nice to have all the documentation available in Spanish; sure I'll reduce the burden with new potential users and community members. My current knowledge about computers include basic administration, some of programming (I've studied two years of Information System Engineering Grade, I've had to drop out). But I think I can invest my time better in helping with the L10N Fedora project. Since I'm new with all these stuff (I'm referring to contributing in a community) I'm asking for a bit of patience if I have to learn anything new about the work-flow. That being said, I think it's pretty easy to use Transifex. No more I could say about me besides what I've already said, but feel free to ask any question and I'll to answer in the best way. pub 4096R/DFDA5434 2013-12-06 Pablo Fabian Wagner Boian <pablow.1422(a)gmail.com> Key fingerprint = 9C1B 9F2C D1DE F04C D5E4 C7A5 62A6 6A90 DFDA 5434 sub 4096R/64C93C30 2013-12-06 Thanks for your time.

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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N
by Noriko Mizumoto 04 Jul '14

04 Jul '14

Hi I noticed that the page 'L10N Freezes' [1] useful for translators and developers is not linked to our home page, thus added it under 'Schedule'. Also I've created new page called 'L10N QA Test Day' [2], added the link under 'Bug Reporting, Testing, and Quality Assurance'. [1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Freezes#Translation_Deadline [2]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_QA_Test_Day noriko

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New version and some adjusts in L10N/Guide
by Marcelo Barbosa 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

Hi all, Seeing the main Guide L10N(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide) our main guide, found some broken links, I made one new version the whole process and more adjusts in some parts to help new contributors. The team that I'm the coordinator will now to translate this, suggestions, comments, criticisms are welcome. Best regards. firemanxbr

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