trans April 2016

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L10N @ Flock - my subject proposal
by Jean-Baptiste 08 Apr '16

08 Apr '16

Hi, I'd like to make a short talk about translation in Flock 2016. As F24 is the first release I'm a contributor, I'd like to share my point of view on : * current status of translation in Fedora * current tools * current processes would someone help me out with content ? And/or suggest topics ? I may also propose website, docs and infra to make workshops on the current status of translation to go further in Guidelines on what is translatable (or not), why, and how. A shortlist of good and bad things I noticed : * status of fedora translation : * stats about contributors and language translations in Zanata and globaly in F20/F21/F22/F23/F24 repositories * good : many languages, zanata stats, appdata infos * bad : not easy to know current situation, finding the right translation platform for each software ? * current tools : * list of what are the main tools we are using * good : zanata easy to use, translation memory, bugzilla, trans-* lists, meetbot, test day tool * bad : data access & stat production, activity feed, link with projects repositories, outdated information about transifex, insufficient use of wiki, what to translate on wiki ? * current processes : * list processes (website, docs, release focused software, softwares from big projects firefox/kde/gnome, others) * good : global schedule with every project included, quick and honest answers (sometimes we know, sometimes it's messy) * bad : review process isn't use by many teams, automatic push of content on websites, the role of staging websites is useless for translation as everything is pushed to both platforms sincerely, -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

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How to upload .po file to translate.zanata?
by Florian Heiser 07 Apr '16

07 Apr '16

Hi, Sorry for bothering this list again with my rookie questions. I translated (part of) blivet-gui into German (de) and noticed that the f24-branch also requests translations for de-DE. How can I upload the .po file of de-translations to de-DE? Or is this maybe not even needed? Will a system automatically default to de if de-DE is not available? The other thing, sometimes I see a master branch, I assume that all "release branches" (such as f24, devel, rhel7...) are forked from this master. What's the strategy if there is no master? Will the next release be forked from the latest version? What if the release branches all have different progress of translation (say 41%, 48%, and 66%). What this question basically means, that it isn't obvious to me to what branch to contribute (even in the case that there is a master. So, what would be of higher priority? A master or f-24? Will the changes to f-24 be merged back to master?). Beste Grüße, Florian

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missing package on Zanata
by Noriko Mizumoto 07 Apr '16

07 Apr '16

Hi I tracked down some missing software packages since 'move to zanata' project completed [1], and updated/filed a couple of bugs for wake-up-calls. (cracklib) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318499 (cockpit) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1320792 (redhat-menus) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1320778 If any other missing package you can notice, please let me know. [1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Packages_To_Migrate noriko

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trans-hu list not listed under fedoraproject.org mailinglists
by Florian Heiser 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

Hi, Quick ping to the admins of mailman. Of course, trans-hu does exist (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans-hu) but https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo doesn't list it. May someone wants to fix that. Cheers, Florian

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Re: Blivet-gui translation F24
by Noriko Mizumoto 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

> I've sent the mail to 'blivet-gui' maintainer in person asking to > consider the migration. Good news. I've got replied, and he agreed to move it to fedora.zanata.org. It would be easier for him, if any translator stops working on translate.zanata.org for a while. I recommend him to lock the project until the migration is over. noriko

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Minutes of 2016-04-06 g11n meeting
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

==================================== #fedora-meeting: g11n (l10n focused) ==================================== Meeting started by pravins at 08:30:10 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-04-06/g11n_(l10n_fo… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 08:30:20) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-04-06 (pravins, 08:30:21) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 08:31:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule (pravins, 08:31:12) * 2016-04-19 Beta Freeze (*) (pravins, 08:31:19) * 2016-04-19 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline (pravins, 08:31:20) * 2016-05-03 Beta Release (pravins, 08:31:20) * 2016-05-24 Final Freeze (*) (pravins, 08:31:20) * 2016-06-07 Fedora 24 Final Release (GA) (pravins, 08:31:20) * Its time to ping devels for pulling translations from Zanata. (pravins, 08:33:53) * New members joined in trans (pravins, 08:34:06) * Eduardo Silva - joined for portuguese (pravins, 08:34:11) * IDEA: jibecfed_ suggested to organize feedback session in flock. (pravins, 08:37:21) * Fedor 24 I18N test day planning (pravins, 08:37:48) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/60 (pravins, 08:37:49) * LINK: Fedora 23 test day https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2015-09-01_i18n (pravins, 08:43:12) * ACTION: pravins to send email on i18n and g11n list to cleanup test cases. (pravins, 08:44:28) * ZNTA-1009 Redhad translation content is imported into Zanata (wrong display and questionable usage as there is no access to context) (pravins, 08:44:51) * LINK: https://zanata.atlassian.net/browse/ZNTA-1009 (pravins, 08:44:52) * Zanata is in the process of developing new editor. Filtering TM would be available after some time. (pravins, 08:51:38) * Fedor 24 L10N test day planning (pravins, 08:53:11) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/18 (pravins, 08:53:11) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/480 (pravins, 08:53:12) * LINK: http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/3 (pravins, 08:54:17) * LINK: Fedora 23 G11N test day article. https://fedoramagazine.org/globalization-test-days-report-fedora-23/ (pravins, 08:59:39) * vFAD for Translations (pravins, 09:01:02) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/5 (pravins, 09:01:02) * LINK: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/translate-fedora-24-in-your-languag… (pravins, 09:01:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/vFAD_Translation (pravins, 09:02:32) * ACTION: aeng and jibecfed will provide stats for Virtual translation sprint window. (pravins, 09:06:02) * LINK: https://zanata.atlassian.net/browse/ZNTA-742 (aeng, 09:06:31) * Live media with langpacks included (pravins, 09:11:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/17 (pravins, 09:11:32) * [Queries in this week] (pravins, 09:18:40) * highlighted letters in menus / shortcuts (pravins, 09:18:47) * Choosing branches (pravins, 09:20:08) * One can "merge translations" feature to bring all matching and approved string from master to f24. (pravins, 09:23:48) * Next Meeting Date and Time (pravins, 09:24:30) * ACTION: pravins to ask on mailing list for next meeting time and chair. (pravins, 09:26:09) * Open Floor (pravins, 09:27:09) Meeting ended at 09:28:20 UTC. Action Items ------------ * pravins to send email on i18n and g11n list to cleanup test cases. * aeng and jibecfed will provide stats for Virtual translation sprint window. * pravins to ask on mailing list for next meeting time and chair. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * aeng * aeng and jibecfed will provide stats for Virtual translation sprint window. * jibecfed * aeng and jibecfed will provide stats for Virtual translation sprint window. * pravins * pravins to send email on i18n and g11n list to cleanup test cases. * pravins to ask on mailing list for next meeting time and chair. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (150) * aeng (50) * jibecfed (19) * paragan (12) * zodbot (8) * jibecfed_ (8) * noriko (6) * juhp (5) * gnokii (1) * epico (1) * suanand (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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F24 translation deadline is tomorrow, 5-Apr
by Noriko Mizumoto 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

Hi Two things to report :-) 1. 'comps' is ready to translate. https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/comps/versions 2. From the bug #1321911 file during QA, I noticed that some testers referred their localization for 'blivet-gui' in wrong place. This is not testers' fault, but wiki page contains wrong link. I have corrected it now. I can see many languages are incomplete. The correct location is here; https://translate.zanata.org/project/view/blivet-gui/versions cheers noriko

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Self-introduction: Mauro Graziano
by Mauro Graziano 05 Apr '16

05 Apr '16

My greetings to the Fedora community. I am Mauro Graziano, and I started using GNU/Linux in 2000 (Red Hat Linux 6.x/7.x). Since then, I have used many different distributions (in particular Debian and Fedora), but this is my first attempt to contribute to an open source project. Even though my command of English is far from being perfect, I think I should be able to translate technical documentation into my own language (Italian). I still need to study the tools required to get the job done (Zanata?), but I am willing to learn. At the moment, the highest qualification in English language that I hold is a certificate from the Shenker Institute, roughly equivalent to the level B2 of CEFR. Furthermore, during these days I am starting to prepare for "Cambridge English: Advanced" (level C1), planning to take the exam before the end of summer. I will be grateful to anyone who can help me to start.

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highlighted letters in menus / shortcuts
by Jean-Baptiste 05 Apr '16

05 Apr '16

Hi there, one contributor ask me how to handle highlighted letters in menus. For example : in system-config-language, there is "_Help" and "_Ok". It looks like to be the keys for shortcuts. Is there a rule to know impact of translating those words ? thanks for your help, -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

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Reminder: G11N meeting tomorrow 2016-04-06 at 08:30 UTC.
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 05 Apr '16

05 Apr '16

Hi All, We have meeting tomorrow, more focused on translations this time though we have to cover i18n test day topic as well. Agenda is available at [1] Feel free to suggest missing topic. Thanks, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-04-06

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