January 2020 - trans - Fedora mailing-lists

Proposal: Fedora G11N Steering Committee
by Pravin Satpute 26 Jun '20

26 Jun '20

Hi All, I am sure, most of the people working with Fedora I18N, L10N from 5-6 year must be aware regarding Fedora L10N Steering Committee. [1] As far as i know this committee was active around 2009 and very effective. During Fedora G11N activity day discussions, we again felt there is need for some kind of official committee to drive Fedora Globalization activities. Fedora is growing faster with number of different domains and G11N also need to adapt those changes quickly to remain on the track. For this purpose and in line with [1], we were thinking of Fedora Globalization steering committee. I have created initial proposal for it. [2] Its open for feedback, please feel free to share other active members, discuss in your respective language groups. This is just initial proposal and i am sure, we can improve and make it more effective with active participation. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Steering_Committee?rd=L10N/SteeringComm… 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_G11N_Steering_Committee_Proposal _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Creating a new project
by Matej Marusak 01 Feb '20

01 Feb '20

Hello, I tried to create a new project in Weblate, but got an error saying I don't have permissions to do so. It was possible for anyone to create new projects in Zanata. Is this a new workflow? If so, is there some process how to request new projects? (opening ticket somewhere...?) Thank you! MM

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : L10N
by jibecfed＠fedoraproject.org 26 Jan '20

26 Jan '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: L10N on 2020-01-27 from 13:00:00 to 13:30:00 Europe/Paris At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Localization meeting https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20190916T150000&p… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings](https://fedoraproject.org/wik… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9620/

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Creating linked components
by Matej Marusak 26 Jan '20

26 Jan '20

Hey, so we created a new branch in cockpit[1], for we want to track translations separately. However, we want to have this new component (branch) connected to the master component. I know it is possible to create linked component, but could not find it. Can someone please advise me? Thank you! MM [1] https://translate.fedoraproject.org/projects/cockpit/ -- Matej Marušák Software Engineer Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com> <https://red.ht/sig>

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What does "generated" mean in bal (generated) (bal)
by Mike FABIAN 24 Jan '20

24 Jan '20

On: https://translate.fedoraproject.org/languages/bal/ I see: bal (generated) (bal) This is apparently used in the "fedora-websites" project. bal is the Balochi language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochi_language What does “generated” mean? -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)redhat.com> 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Fedora & Weblate + cross project collaboration ; our priorities
by Jean-Baptiste 22 Jan '20

22 Jan '20

Dear translators, thanks to Fedora funding[1], I'll attend Weblate's BOF at FOSDEM: https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/bof_weblate/ As included in Council funding request to pay the hosting of our translation platform[2], the cross project collaboration is still on track. We will have members of the Document foundation and OpenSuse community, so that we can discuss cross projects collaboration. My main idea here is to allow to connect using Fedora account and OpenSuse account to all platform (easy to set, it's a symbol), and to share translation memory (difficult to set, but it's important for contributor's efficiency). I'll be the voice of the Fedora project at this event, what should be our requests priority regarding the weblate tool? Here is my priority list, from most important to less important: 1. Allow to upload POT files for upstream projects: https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3263 2. License change should trigger a notification: https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3369 3. Allow to make license mandatory and to disable some licenses: https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3370 4. Restrict access on component level: https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3267 5. Validate repository browser links https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3391 6. Differentiate anymous user from bot https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3009 On hold: Pull request for Pagure hosted projects: https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3346 You are welcome to share your thoughts, even if it is to say "it's fine". Jean-Baptiste [1] https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/178 [2] https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/268

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Project structure in weblate?
by Sundeep Anand 22 Jan '20

22 Jan '20

Hi, It would be really helpful if we keep project structure as: 1 source repo : 1 weblate project : 1 fedora package Project components could be either - fedora releases f32 f33, or - git branches, or - upstream releases thoughts? thanks, sundeep

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GO/NOGO for Weblate in production
by Jean-Baptiste Holcroft 22 Jan '20

22 Jan '20

Dear translation team, we are experimenting Weblate for a few months now. It's time to say if you feel confident the tool can allow us to do our job as a translation community. Please share the language in which you translate and answer: +1 to confirm Weblate is suitable for the Fedora translation community +0 is sometimes used to indicate a disagreement but willingness to stand aside, this should also be accompanied with an explanation -1 to disagree, this should also be accompanied with an explanation GO is if the sum of answer is greater than zero. Please note: you can +1 and share your feedback about what is good and what is to improve in Weblate. Jean-Baptiste

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Re: DNF and Anaconda ask to delay Zanata migration in March
by Jean-Baptiste Holcroft 21 Jan '20

21 Jan '20

Ludek, please use this UI to register to the mailing list: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org/ You can also respond without registering using the same URL. >>> Because Cockpit and Composer already moved to weblate, we can >>> definitely finish our translations there. >>> But in general I would really prefer to have RHEL 8.2 translation >>> cycle finished first (18 February) and migrate after that. >> >> Could we turn things around and see the situation as an opportunity? >> Since I joined Fedora in 2015, I never had an opportunity to >> contribute a RHEL release, and being able to see RHEL translators' >> work/feedback always were really limited. > > Absolutely. We are pushing our translations to Zanata/ Weblate approx. > 4 times a year during the RHEL 7 and RHEL 8 localization schedules. > Our scope is limited though, we focus on customer critical components > such as: installation (anaconda, dnf), administration (cockpit, > composer), storage, networking, selinux, comps. Good, then, I should be able to create a component list for these projects to make it easier to find. > This is something which needs to be coordinated with the respective > RHEL sub teams. If you need, I can provide you with contact > information but I am no the person who has access to their git > repositories, unfortunately. What you can do: go in this list of issues to tell the team they can migrate if they make sure it won't impact RHEL 8 localization schedules: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1785028 (anaconda) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1787204 (dnf) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1789350 (rhel-comps) I'm unsure of what you call "storage" and "networking": I have blivet in storage category: https://github.com/storaged-project/blivet/issues/821 Could you provide a more precise list? selinux looks like to have one fork per platform, I feel like we should probably merge the effort upstream instead of translating multiple time the same content: https://github.com/SELinuxProject/selinux/issues/198 (selinux) Could you contribute or invite RH dev team to contribute the discussion? Jean-Baptiste

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Fwd: Re: DNF and Anaconda ask to delay Zanata migration in March
by Jean-Baptiste Holcroft 21 Jan '20

21 Jan '20

Another answer out of mailing list. -------- Courriel original -------- Objet: Re: DNF and Anaconda ask to delay Zanata migration in March Date: 2020-01-21 11:05 De: Luděk Janda <ljanda(a)redhat.com> À: Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> Cc: duffy(a)fedoraproject.org, Fedora Translation Project List <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, Matej Marusak <mmarusak(a)redhat.com>, jkonecny(a)redhat.com, Michal Konecny <michal.konecny(a)packetseekers.eu>, mblaha(a)redhat.com Hi Jean-Baptiste, I am afraid my messages don’t get to the Fedora translation project list because I am not subscribed there. > On 20.01.2020, at 10:19, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft > <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> wrote: > > Le 2020-01-20 04:37, Luděk Janda a écrit : >> That’s just a small misunderstanding. We prefer to translate in our >> internal platform because this way we can share RHEL UI translation >> memory with other projects such as RHEL documentation, our translators >> working on docs can easily verify the appropriate UI strings >> translation when necessary. We can also leverage easier our past >> translations from other projects / other RHEL components.I do not >> have numbers for Weblate, but comparing Zanata with our internal >> platform - when sharing TM in our internal platform we are to reduce >> workload by ~20% (e.g. Cockpit in Korean, Zanata workload: 1107, >> Memsource workload: 802). We also have access to our MT engines >> (DeepL) that speed up delivery. Etc. > > Thanks your answer. > > What is unclear here: you say you are not using Zanata internally and > then compare Zanata vs Weblate. > Could you please elaborate? Which tool are you using internally and how > is it related to fedora.zanata.org? > Is there RHEL requirements for translate.stg.fedoraproject.org? I am comparing workloads in Zanata vs Memsource (our internal platform), because we used to get PO files from Zanata. We had no experience with Weblate till recently, that’s why I don’t have the comparison numbers ready for that new platform. > >> Yeah, it was surprisingly easy, thanks, Matej, for giving me that >> opportunity. Challenging part seems to be the GA check. I will need to >> align our internal QA tools to highlight the same errors as in >> Weblate. > > Good to see it was easy. > Why would you like to "highlight the same errors as in Weblate"? > What can of tests does the RHEL internal QA tools runs on a release? > Weblate is currently checking for example Leading/trailing colons, periods etc. We are checking only Leading/trailing spaces. Weblate is checking plurals in Asian languages, I wonder why because those languages have no plurals. Checking missing plurals in French in words such as fois, mois, etc does not make much sense either. Weblate is checking English words in the target language which is also a sort of annoyance in UI projects. We won’t be probably able to perform such detailed check in Memsource. >> Because Cockpit and Composer already moved to weblate, we can >> definitely finish our translations there. >> But in general I would really prefer to have RHEL 8.2 translation >> cycle finished first (18 February) and migrate after that. > > Could we turn things around and see the situation as an opportunity? > Since I joined Fedora in 2015, I never had an opportunity to contribute > a RHEL release, and being able to see RHEL translators' work/feedback > always were really limited. Absolutely. We are pushing our translations to Zanata/ Weblate approx. 4 times a year during the RHEL 7 and RHEL 8 localization schedules. Our scope is limited though, we focus on customer critical components such as: installation (anaconda, dnf), administration (cockpit, composer), storage, networking, selinux, comps. Our aim is to have 100% Japanese completed. But partially we are covering the other strategic languages too: Chinese (China), Korean, French. It’s great to see our translations could be reused by the community. > > Here, with your translation import for Cockpit in Weblate, I was able > to see Red Hat contributions for the first time. > > I would love to: > 1. see all projects to migrate to translate.stg.fedoraproject.org > 2. announce your schedule in Fedora blogs so community contribute to > RHEL > From past translations I did, I consider 95% of translation done for > RHEL are the same strings that what we have in Fedora. > 3. see RHEL work imported back into translate.stg.fedoraproject.org > 4. work with you a retrospective of this collaboration so we can > improve > > To migrate a project to Weblate: > * allow Weblate configuration: choose the git repository for Weblate > that will handle pot and po files (it can be dedicated for translation > or shared with source code) > run `zanata pull` (using zanata python client) > make sure there is no translation files with no translations (use > pocount from translate-toolkit) > from there, translation can start. > load: about 30 minutes per project in your team and 10 minutes of > configuration on my side > * allow to package releases: change your make files > load: a few hours for your teams to make sure all automation works > well > This is something which needs to be coordinated with the respective RHEL sub teams. If you need, I can provide you with contact information but I am no the person who has access to their git repositories, unfortunately. Thanks, Ludek > We have much to learn from each other. > > Jean-Baptiste >

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Info: new URL for Weblate is translate.fedoraproject.org
by Jean-Baptiste Holcroft 21 Jan '20

21 Jan '20

Dear translators, as you all gave your support to using Weblate in production, the URL will change. You don't have anything to do as a redirection will be done. New URL: https://translate.fedoraproject.org/ Previous URL: https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/ This may impact some automation if someone use the API to interact with Weblate. If so, only the URL has to be changed. As far as I know, no upstream project is using API. All other automation should have no change, please let me know if some action is required. Have a nice day, Jean-Baptiste

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Re: [Fedora Weblate] New comment in ibus-typing-booster/app
by Mike FABIAN 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Adolfo Jayme Barrientos <noreply(a)weblate.org> さんはかきました: > ## Source string > > translator-credits > > ## Comment > > **[@mfabian](/user/mfabian/ "Mike FABIAN")** : please remove the character > limit in this string; it’s nonsensical. I stumbled over this as well, I don’t know where this limitation comes from, I didn’t set any limitation. I would remove it if I knew how to do it. -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)redhat.com> 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Fwd: Re: DNF and Anaconda ask to delay Zanata migration in March
by Jean-Baptiste 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Somehow, this message isn't available in translation mailing list history. People can't read the message I'm answering to. Here is a forward for archive purpose. -------- Message transféré -------- Sujet : Re: DNF and Anaconda ask to delay Zanata migration in March Date : Mon, 20 Jan 2020 04:37:33 +0100 De : Luděk Janda <ljanda(a)redhat.com> Pour : Jean-Baptiste <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> Copie à : duffy(a)fedoraproject.org, Fedora Translation Project List <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, Matej Marusak <mmarusak(a)redhat.com>, jkonecny(a)redhat.com, Michal Konecny <michal.konecny(a)packetseekers.eu>, mblaha(a)redhat.com <mblaha(a)redhat.com> Hi Jean-Baptiste, I think I answered already on 15 February. My copy pasted answer from that day follows. Let me know if you need anything else you need to clarify from me. Thanks, L Hi all, > On 15 Jan 2020, at 08:19, Matej Marusak <mmarusak(a)redhat.com > <mailto:mmarusak@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:45 PM Jean-Baptiste > <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr <mailto:jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr>> wrote: > > Le 14/01/2020 à 16:25, jkonecny(a)redhat.com > <mailto:jkonecny@redhat.com> a écrit : > > Translators in RHEL using their tools. One of the benefit is > that this > > way they can share translations between products. That is not > possible > > in Weblate as far as I understand. > > I feel that this assumption is wrong, or requires more details. > That’s just a small misunderstanding. We prefer to translate in our internal platform because this way we can share RHEL UI translation memory with other projects such as RHEL documentation, our translators working on docs can easily verify the appropriate UI strings translation when necessary. We can also leverage easier our past translations from other projects / other RHEL components. I do not have numbers for Weblate, but comparing Zanata with our internal platform - when sharing TM in our internal platform we are to reduce workload by ~20% (e.g. Cockpit in Korean, Zanata workload: 1107, Memsource workload: 802). We also have access to our MT engines (DeepL) that speed up delivery. Etc. > Anyway, it looks like Ludek Janda was able to import a list of files > easily: https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/changes/?user=ljanda > > Hey all, > I would like to mention our experience with this migration. (not the > migration itself, that is a long story as we did not like the "common" > weblate workflow) > I migrated 3 Cockpit projects from Zanata to Weblate last week not > realizing that there is a translation phase going on. > Yesterday Ludek pushed updates into Zanata. So I talked to him and > learned that they don't use Zanata as translation platform - they just > pull source file from it and push translated files there. > Although I agreed that they can finish this phase in Zanata and then I > would do a manual sync into Weblate, Ludek tried Weblate and said it > was easy to push there, so he did exactly that. > > So yes, he was able to do that, but it is important not to break their > workflow in the middle of a translation phase. But after he tried > Weblate yesterday, maybe he would be willing to do this also for other > projects? Yeah, it was surprisingly easy, thanks, Matej, for giving me that opportunity. Challenging part seems to be the GA check. I will need to align our internal QA tools to highlight the same errors as in Weblate. Because Cockpit and Composer already moved to weblate, we can definitely finish our translations there. But in general I would really prefer to have RHEL 8.2 translation cycle finished first (18 February) and migrate after that. The list of affected components (with some translation work in 8.2) * anaconda * cockpit * composer * dnf * dnf-plugins-core * libdnf * NetworkManager * policycoreutils * pykickstart * setroubleshoot-plugins * sssd * subscription-manager * syspurpose Thanks, Ludek > On 17.01.2020, at 19:23, Jean-Baptiste <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr > <mailto:jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr>> wrote: > > Ludek, as RHEL Localization Manager and the one asking to DNF and > Anaconda to delay migration, could you please answer the different emails? > > > I see no reasons to delay, and ask you the help us in this migration > by being an enabler: telling all Red Hat teams to fully support this > community effort. > > > Added in CC, Mairin as FCAIC. > > > Le 15/01/2020 à 08:19, Matej Marusak a écrit : >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:45 PM Jean-Baptiste >> <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr <mailto:jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr> >> <mailto:jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr>> wrote: >> >> Le 14/01/2020 à 16:25, jkonecny(a)redhat.com >> <mailto:jkonecny@redhat.com> >> <mailto:jkonecny@redhat.com> a écrit : >> > Translators in RHEL using their tools. One of the benefit is >> that this >> > way they can share translations between products. That is not >> possible >> > in Weblate as far as I understand. >> >> I feel that this assumption is wrong, or requires more details. >> >> Anyway, it looks like Ludek Janda was able to import a list of files >> easily: https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/changes/?user=ljanda >> >> Hey all, >> I would like to mention our experience with this migration. (not the >> migration itself, that is a long story as we did not like the >> "common" weblate workflow) >> I migrated 3 Cockpit projects from Zanata to Weblate last week not >> realizing that there is a translation phase going on. >> Yesterday Ludek pushed updates into Zanata. So I talked to him and >> learned that they don't use Zanata as translation platform - they >> just pull source file from it and push translated files there. >> Although I agreed that they can finish this phase in Zanata and then >> I would do a manual sync into Weblate, Ludek tried Weblate and said >> it was easy to push there, so he did exactly that. >> >> So yes, he was able to do that, but it is important not to break >> their workflow in the middle of a translation phase. But after he >> tried Weblate yesterday, maybe he would be willing to do this also >> for other projects? >> >> MM >

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Conflict issues with WebLate translations for libosinfo projects
by Fabiano Fidêncio 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

We've migrated to using WebLate a week or so ago and we've been facing some issues related to merge conflicts, probably due to some misconfiguration on our side, which we'd need some help to solve. Firstly, we're receiving MRs on our GitLab directly changing po/*po files. is that expected? If so, what would be the best way to: 1) Avoid things like https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/libosinfo/libosinfo/#alert… 2) If we fail to avoid such, what would be the best way to have them solved without actually doing a merge? libosinfo projects do *not* use merge, just rebase is used. Last but not least, I've failed to understand what's the best way to use `wlc` command line tool. `wlc lock` just returns me "Error: No object passed on command line!". But what shall I pass? `wlc lock --help` tells me that: "object Object on which we should operate (project, component or translation)". `wlc lock $project_name` just returns me a bunch of errors like: ``` fidencio@laerte ~/src/upstream/libosinfo $ wlc lock libosinfo Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 157, in _new_conn (self._dns_host, self.port), self.timeout, **extra_kw File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/util/connection.py", line 84, in create_connection raise err File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/util/connection.py", line 74, in create_connection sock.connect(sa) ConnectionRefusedError: [Errno 111] Connection refused During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 672, in urlopen chunked=chunked, File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 387, in _make_request conn.request(method, url, **httplib_request_kw) File "/usr/lib64/python3.7/http/client.py", line 1252, in request self._send_request(method, url, body, headers, encode_chunked) File "/usr/lib64/python3.7/http/client.py", line 1298, in _send_request self.endheaders(body, encode_chunked=encode_chunked) File "/usr/lib64/python3.7/http/client.py", line 1247, in endheaders self._send_output(message_body, encode_chunked=encode_chunked) File "/usr/lib64/python3.7/http/client.py", line 1026, in _send_output self.send(msg) File "/usr/lib64/python3.7/http/client.py", line 966, in send self.connect() File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 184, in connect conn = self._new_conn() File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 169, in _new_conn self, "Failed to establish a new connection: %s" % e urllib3.exceptions.NewConnectionError: <urllib3.connection.HTTPConnection object at 0x7fe76b9e5610>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 111] Connection refused During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 449, in send timeout=timeout File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 720, in urlopen method, url, error=e, _pool=self, _stacktrace=sys.exc_info()[2] File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 436, in increment raise MaxRetryError(_pool, url, error or ResponseError(cause)) urllib3.exceptions.MaxRetryError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='127.0.0.1', port=8000): Max retries exceeded with url: /api/projects/libosinfo/ (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.HTTPConnection object at 0x7fe76b9e5610>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 111] Connection refused')) During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/wlc", line 10, in <module> sys.exit(main()) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/main.py", line 703, in main command.run() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/main.py", line 567, in run obj = self.get_object() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/main.py", line 280, in get_object obj = super(ComponentCommand, self).get_object() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/main.py", line 262, in get_object return self.wlc.get_object(path) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/__init__.py", line 145, in get_object return self.get_project(path) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/__init__.py", line 150, in get_project return self._get_factory("projects", path, Project) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/__init__.py", line 131, in _get_factory data = self.get("/".join((prefix, path, ""))) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/__init__.py", line 118, in get return self.request("get", path) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/__init__.py", line 82, in request r = self.invoke_request(method, path, params, files) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/wlc/__init__.py", line 104, in invoke_request files=files, File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 60, in request return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 533, in request resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 646, in send r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 516, in send raise ConnectionError(e, request=request) requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='127.0.0.1', port=8000): Max retries exceeded with url: /api/projects/libosinfo/ (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.HTTPConnection object at 0x7fe76b9e5610>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 111] Connection refused')) ``` So, I've been using the WebUI but would be nice to understand the workflow of the CLI tool. Best Regards, -- Fabiano Fidêncio

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Re: DNF and Anaconda ask to delay Zanata migration in March
by Jean-Baptiste Holcroft 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Le 2020-01-20 04:37, Luděk Janda a écrit : > That’s just a small misunderstanding. We prefer to translate in our > internal platform because this way we can share RHEL UI translation > memory with other projects such as RHEL documentation, our translators > working on docs can easily verify the appropriate UI strings > translation when necessary. We can also leverage easier our past > translations from other projects / other RHEL components.I do not > have numbers for Weblate, but comparing Zanata with our internal > platform - when sharing TM in our internal platform we are to reduce > workload by ~20% (e.g. Cockpit in Korean, Zanata workload: 1107, > Memsource workload: 802). We also have access to our MT engines > (DeepL) that speed up delivery. Etc. Thanks your answer. What is unclear here: you say you are not using Zanata internally and then compare Zanata vs Weblate. Could you please elaborate? Which tool are you using internally and how is it related to fedora.zanata.org? Is there RHEL requirements for translate.stg.fedoraproject.org? > Yeah, it was surprisingly easy, thanks, Matej, for giving me that > opportunity. Challenging part seems to be the GA check. I will need to > align our internal QA tools to highlight the same errors as in > Weblate. Good to see it was easy. Why would you like to "highlight the same errors as in Weblate"? What can of tests does the RHEL internal QA tools runs on a release? > Because Cockpit and Composer already moved to weblate, we can > definitely finish our translations there. > > But in general I would really prefer to have RHEL 8.2 translation > cycle finished first (18 February) and migrate after that. Could we turn things around and see the situation as an opportunity? Since I joined Fedora in 2015, I never had an opportunity to contribute a RHEL release, and being able to see RHEL translators' work/feedback always were really limited. Here, with your translation import for Cockpit in Weblate, I was able to see Red Hat contributions for the first time. I would love to: 1. see all projects to migrate to translate.stg.fedoraproject.org 2. announce your schedule in Fedora blogs so community contribute to RHEL From past translations I did, I consider 95% of translation done for RHEL are the same strings that what we have in Fedora. 3. see RHEL work imported back into translate.stg.fedoraproject.org 4. work with you a retrospective of this collaboration so we can improve To migrate a project to Weblate: * allow Weblate configuration: choose the git repository for Weblate that will handle pot and po files (it can be dedicated for translation or shared with source code) run `zanata pull` (using zanata python client) make sure there is no translation files with no translations (use pocount from translate-toolkit) from there, translation can start. load: about 30 minutes per project in your team and 10 minutes of configuration on my side * allow to package releases: change your make files load: a few hours for your teams to make sure all automation works well We have much to learn from each other. Jean-Baptiste

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : L10N
by jibecfed＠fedoraproject.org 19 Jan '20

19 Jan '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: L10N on 2020-01-20 from 13:00:00 to 13:30:00 Europe/Paris At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Localization meeting https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20190916T150000&p… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings](https://fedoraproject.org/wik… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9620/

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DNF and Anaconda ask to delay Zanata migration in March
by Jean-Baptiste Holcroft 17 Jan '20

17 Jan '20

Dear translators, Anaconda[1] and DNF[2] gave the same answer today: "Please can you delay migration and start after February 18? We are in the middle of RHEL 8.2 localization cycle, our team is working in Zanata and I want to minimize potential risk. Thanks." It kinda bothers me a little bit. Please share your thoughts. First assumption: the answer only concerns Anaconda and DNF projects. 1. Aren't we suppose to be upstream translation community for DNF and Anaconda? What does the RHEL localization cycle have to do here? Why March? 2. Fedora 32 schedule says string freeze is supposed to be reached at end of January [3] 3. Whatever external translators are helping RHEL: why wouldn't they be able to upload translations using Weblate? Same if centralized by a Red Hat employee. why wouldn't dev team use po merge features? 4. Migrating to Weblate for a translation team means to have a git repository to host translation, which only implies development teams Anyone with insights or advice on how to handle this? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1785028#c9 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1787204#c4 [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/32/Schedule

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Unable to upload POT file to any libvirt project component
by Daniel P. Berrangé 16 Jan '20

16 Jan '20

When we first setup the libvirt-glib project, I was able to use $ wlc upload --method replace -i libvirt-glib.pot libvirt-glib/master/en to upload the .pot file into the "en.po" file on the server, which was marked as the base language for translation. Since then, the libvirt-glib project was renamed, and libvirt & libvirt-sandbox were added as further components. Now when I try to upload the .pot, weblate is not accepting any of the strings. At first I thought I was still hitting the upload size limit, but debugging I see this is not the case. $ wlc upload --method replace -i libvirt-glib.pot libvirt-glib/master/en Error: Failed to upload translations! Despite failing, it *has* made some change in the git repository, because I now see this new commit: commit 56edd0b79dd3f4c296626afabaed67d04d56c1ed Author: Daniel P. Berrange <berrange(a)redhat.com> Date: Mon Jan 13 21:20:53 2020 +0000 Translated using Weblate (English) Currently translated at 0.0% (0 of 31 strings) Translation: libvirt/libvirt-glib Translate-URL: https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/libvirt/libvirt-glib/en/ diff --git a/en.po b/en.po index a4e737c..750982c 100644 --- a/en.po +++ b/en.po @@ -1,9 +1,7 @@ # Libvirt package strings. # Copyright (C) 2019 The Libvirt authors # This file is distributed under the same license as the libvirt-glib package. -# FIRST AUTHOR <EMAIL@ADDRESS>, YEAR. -# -#, fuzzy +# Daniel P. Berrange <berrange(a)redhat.com>, 2020. msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: libvirt-glib 3.0.0\n" @@ -12,7 +10,7 @@ msgstr "" "PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n" "Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>\n" "Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LL(a)li.org>\n" -"Language: \n" +"Language: en\n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n" In addition the weblate UI is reporting errors for libvirt-glib now [quote] Duplicated translation The component contains several translation files mapped to single language in Weblate. The following occurrences were found: Language Language codes English en, en Please fix this by removing one of the duplicated strings from the translation files. [/quote] The same has happened to the git repos for libvirt and libvirt-sandbox too. The error goes away if I put the project back to "gettext (monlingual)" but I'm still unable to upload the pot file to en.po again. I'm thinking about what has changed since I was first succesfully able to upload: - The project now has three separate components each with their own git repo - The "Automatic translation" and "Language consistency" addons have been installed My guess is that possibly the language consistency addon has caused the problem. I think perhaps it has tried to synchronize the "en.po" file across the three repos and this confused things, now preventing me treating it as the string base file. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|

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Info for a new organizer
by Luigi Votta 16 Jan '20

16 Jan '20

Hello I was a volunteer as an IT translator few years ago. In the meanwhile, some people gone and new are come, but as I can see, there is no active organizer at this time, to give rights and approvals for new comers. A volunteer proposed and self applied for this role. How are your groups organized? How can we assign him the necessary rights to go? Thank you in advance for informations. Luigi Votta

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Fedora websites are now readonly in Zanata
by Jean-Baptiste 15 Jan '20

15 Jan '20

Dear translators, for your information, the Websites projects are now readonly in Zanata. Work is going on to migrate to Weblate, you can register to this issue if you want to follow-up or help: https://pagure.io/fedora-web/websites/issue/79 You are really welcome to help if you know scripting. Jean-Baptiste

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New migrated projects
by Jean-Baptiste 14 Jan '20

14 Jan '20

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Re: Weblate’s links to sourcecode are often wrong
by Jean-Baptiste Holcroft 13 Jan '20

13 Jan '20

Le 2020-01-13 13:51, Mike FABIAN a écrit : > https://github.com/OpenPrinting/system-config-printer/blob/master/ppdippstr… > > (“master” added between “blob” and “ppdippstr.py”) I don't know the reason of this, the component looks correctly configured: https://github.com/OpenPrinting/system-config-printer/blob/{{branch}}/{{fil… The help says: "Link to repository browser, use {{branch}} for branch, {{filename}} and {{line}} as filename and line placeholders." The repository branch is "master", which should works... I'll forward it to Weblate's support Jean-Baptiste

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POT file of system-config-printer seems out of date
by Mike FABIAN 13 Jan '20

13 Jan '20

https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/translate/system-config-printer/ has the translatable string “Hight Quality Grayscale” https://github.com/OpenPrinting/system-config-printer/blob/master/ppdippstr… has “ "High Quality Grayscale": _("High Quality Grayscale"), ” i.e. the typo in the message ID is already fixed in the source, but it is still in the POT file. -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)redhat.com> 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Weblate’s links to sourcecode are often wrong
by Mike FABIAN 13 Jan '20

13 Jan '20

Weblate’s links to sourcecode are often wrong. Example: https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/translate/system-config-printer/mas… has the link: https://github.com/OpenPrinting/system-config-printer/blob/ppdippstr.py#L121 which gives a 404 error (Page not found) Correct link is: https://github.com/OpenPrinting/system-config-printer/blob/master/ppdippstr… (“master” added between “blob” and “ppdippstr.py”) -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)redhat.com> 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Cannot delete suggestions again after Weblate update
by Mike FABIAN 13 Jan '20

13 Jan '20

There seems to have been an update in Weblate last week. Mostly it seems to work well for me. But I have the problem again that I cannot delete translations suggestions which I do not want to accept, just discard. I want to delete them so I don’t have to look at them again. In the old Weblate there was a red "Delete" button to do this. -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)redhat.com> 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : L10N
by jibecfed＠fedoraproject.org 12 Jan '20

12 Jan '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: L10N on 2020-01-13 from 13:00:00 to 13:30:00 Europe/Paris At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Localization meeting https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20190916T150000&p… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings](https://fedoraproject.org/wik… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9620/

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Weblate does not send updates
by Matej Marusak 10 Jan '20

10 Jan '20

Hey, we migrated from Zanata to Weblate in cockpit-podman[1] project using intermediate repo[2]. The repository is set up correctly, as when I click `Commit` button in Weblate UI, we get commits as expected. We set up that we get updates for changes after 24 hours (`Age of changes to commit` setting set to `24`). I did some updates in weblate[3] 2 days ago, but we still did not get any update. Could it be related to the fact that we updated `.pot` file in [2] in the meantime? (it is rebasable though). Thanks, MM [1] https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit-podman/ [2] https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit-podman-weblate/ [3] https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/cockpit-podman/master/sk/

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Translation in public license with source code in GPL-2.0-or-after
by Jean-Baptiste Holcroft 09 Jan '20

09 Jan '20

Dear translators, ABRT dev want to have a different license for translation than the one used for the software. Their software is GLP 2.0 or after. They would like to have some kind of "Public Domain" License for translation. I never had this situation before and don't know if this is acceptable or not. According to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main?rd=Licensing It means: "Being in the public domain is not a license; rather, it means the material is not copyrighted and no license is needed." What do you think? Jean-Baptiste

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ibus-anthy component translation aren't lost
by Jean-Baptiste 08 Jan '20

08 Jan '20

Dear translators, some may have notice a "translation loss" on ibus/ibus-anthy component. Your work isn't lost, we'll fix it soon, detail explanation is here: https://github.com/ibus/ibus-anthy/pull/16 I locked the component until the situation is cleaned up Jean-Baptiste

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Re: trans Digest, Vol 191, Issue 6
by Geert Warrink 07 Jan '20

07 Jan '20

+1 Dutch NL trans-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org schreef op ma 06-01-2020 om 13:50 [+0000]: > Send trans mailing list submissions to > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > trans-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > trans-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of trans digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. GO/NOGO for Weblate in production (Jean-Baptiste Holcroft) > 2. Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : L10N (Jean-Baptiste Holcroft) > 3. Re: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production (Yuri Chornoivan) > 4. Re: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production (Yaron Shahrabani) > 5. Re: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production (Rafael Fontenelle) > 6. Re: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production (Pro Neon) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 13:51:19 +0100 > From: Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> > Subject: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production > To: Fedora Translation Project List <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <03c877e08f72bd68531a3dd9a5a3bf09(a)holcroft.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Dear translation team, > > we are experimenting Weblate for a few months now. > It's time to say if you feel confident the tool can allow us to do > our > job as a translation community. > > Please share the language in which you translate and answer: > +1 to confirm Weblate is suitable for the Fedora translation > community > +0 is sometimes used to indicate a disagreement but willingness to > stand > aside, this should also be accompanied with an explanation > -1 to disagree, this should also be accompanied with an explanation > > GO is if the sum of answer is greater than zero. > Please note: you can +1 and share your feedback about what is good > and > what is to improve in Weblate. > > Jean-Baptiste > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 13:52:56 +0100 > From: Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> > Subject: Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : L10N > To: Fedora Translation Project List <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <9e4c4f8d2e0bc0eea31fa6933f2a3062(a)holcroft.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Minutes: > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-01-06/l10n.2020-01-… > Minutes (text): > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-01-06/l10n.2020-01-… > Log: > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-01-06/l10n.2020-01-… > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 14:53:48 +0200 > From: Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor(a)ukr.net> > Subject: Re: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production > To: Fedora Translation Project List <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <8972368.1MUnukUvCD(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > +1 > Ukrainian (uk) > > понеділок, 6 січня 2020 р. 14:51:19 EET Jean-Baptiste Holcroft > написано: > > Dear translation team, > > > > we are experimenting Weblate for a few months now. > > It's time to say if you feel confident the tool can allow us to do > > our > > job as a translation community. > > > > Please share the language in which you translate and answer: > > +1 to confirm Weblate is suitable for the Fedora translation > > community > > +0 is sometimes used to indicate a disagreement but willingness to > > stand > > aside, this should also be accompanied with an explanation > > -1 to disagree, this should also be accompanied with an explanation > > > > GO is if the sum of answer is greater than zero. > > Please note: you can +1 and share your feedback about what is good > > and > > what is to improve in Weblate. > > > > Jean-Baptiste > > _______________________________________________ > > trans mailing list -- trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List > > Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List > > Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 15:30:03 +0200 > From: Yaron Shahrabani <sh.yaron(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production > To: Fedora Translation Project List <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: > < > CACVjhxWGJ6XKUmxzMFov9S06F3a_pxBVWbGHC+xUWm8b_Yv1Hw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000b62edc059b78a96f" > > --000000000000b62edc059b78a96f > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > +1 > Hebrew (he) > Yaron Shahrabani > > <DevOps - Hebrew translator> > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 2:54 PM Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor(a)ukr.net> > wrote: > > > +1 > > Ukrainian (uk) > > > > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=96=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=BA, 6 > > =D1=81=D1=96=D1= > =87=D0=BD=D1=8F 2020 =D1=80. 14:51:19 EET Jean-Baptiste Holcroft > =D0=BD=D0= > =B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE: > > > Dear translation team, > > > > > > we are experimenting Weblate for a few months now. > > > It's time to say if you feel confident the tool can allow us to > > > do our > > > job as a translation community. > > > > > > Please share the language in which you translate and answer: > > > +1 to confirm Weblate is suitable for the Fedora translation > > > community > > > +0 is sometimes used to indicate a disagreement but willingness > > > to stan= > d > > > aside, this should also be accompanied with an explanation > > > -1 to disagree, this should also be accompanied with an > > > explanation > > > > > > GO is if the sum of answer is greater than zero. > > > Please note: you can +1 and share your feedback about what is > > > good and > > > what is to improve in Weblate. > > > > > > Jean-Baptiste > > > _______________________________________________ > > > trans mailing list -- trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List > > > Guidelines: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List > > > Archives: > > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.o= > rg > > _______________________________________________ > > trans mailing list -- trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.o= > rg > > --000000000000b62edc059b78a96f > Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font- > family:tahoma,s= > ans-serif">+1</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font- > family:tahoma= > ,sans-serif">Hebrew (he)<br clear=3D"all"></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" > class= > =3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div > dir=3D"ltr"><d= > iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font- > size:large"><= > span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><font > color=3D"#990000">Yaron</fon= > t></span><font color=3D"#330000"><span style=3D"font- > family:georgia,serif">= > <font size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-family:times new > roman,serif">Shahrab= > ani</span></font></span></font></span><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 > 0 40p= > x;border:none;padding:0px"><div><font color=3D"#666666"><span > style=3D"font= > -size:x-small"><font color=3D"#FF0000"><</font></span><font > size=3D"2"><= > span style=3D"font-family:monospace">DevOps</span> - <span > style=3D"font-fa= > mily:garamond,serif">Hebrew translator</span></font><span > style=3D"font-siz= > e:x-small"><font > color=3D"#FF0000">></font></span></font></div></blockqu= > ote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div > class=3D"g= > mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 > at 2:= > 54 PM Yuri Chornoivan <<a href=3D"mailto:yurchor@ukr.net"> > yurchor(a)ukr.ne= > t</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" > style=3D"margin= > :0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding- > left:1ex"= > > +1<br> > Ukrainian (uk)<br> > <br> > =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B4=D1=96=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=BA, 6 > =D1=81=D1=96=D1= > =87=D0=BD=D1=8F 2020 =D1=80. 14:51:19 EET Jean-Baptiste Holcroft > =D0=BD=D0= > =B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE:<br> > > Dear translation team,<br> > > <br> > > we are experimenting Weblate for a few months now.<br> > > It's time to say if you feel confident the tool can allow us > to do= > our <br> > > job as a translation community.<br> > > <br> > > Please share the language in which you translate and answer:<br> > > +1 to confirm Weblate is suitable for the Fedora translation > community= > <br> > > +0 is sometimes used to indicate a disagreement but willingness > to sta= > nd <br> > > aside, this should also be accompanied with an explanation<br> > > -1 to disagree, this should also be accompanied with an > explanation<br= > > <br> > > GO is if the sum of answer is greater than zero.<br> > > Please note: you can +1 and share your feedback about what is > good and= > <br> > > what is to improve in Weblate.<br> > > <br> > > Jean-Baptiste<br> > > _______________________________________________<br> > > trans mailing list -- <a href=3D"mailto: > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org"= > target=3D"_blank">trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br> > > To unsubscribe send an email to <a href=3D"mailto: > trans-leave(a)lists.fe= > doraproject.org" target=3D"_blank"> > trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org</a><= > br> > > Fedora Code of Conduct:<br> > > <a href=3D" > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduc= > t/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-= > US/project/code-of-conduct/</a> List<br> > > Guidelines: <a href=3D" > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_gui= > delines" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"> > https://fedoraproject.org/wik= > i/Mailing_list_guidelines</a> List<br> > > Archives:<br> > > <a href=3D" > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.f= > edoraproject.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" 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ns(a)lists.fedoraproject.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"> > https://li= > sts.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org</a> > <br> > </blockquote></div> > > --000000000000b62edc059b78a96f-- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 10:39:51 -0300 > From: Rafael Fontenelle <rafaelff(a)gnome.org> > Subject: Re: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production > To: Fedora Translation Project List <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: > < > CAFPa+S=Cosb5Qdb0Eo71HRVNFK3p_e3WTj_1P6oaRyNs0mnTUw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > +1 > Brazilian Portuguese (pt_BR) > > Em seg., 6 de jan. de 2020 às 09:51, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft > <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> escreveu: > > Dear translation team, > > > > we are experimenting Weblate for a few months now. > > It's time to say if you feel confident the tool can allow us to do > > our > > job as a translation community. > > > > Please share the language in which you translate and answer: > > +1 to confirm Weblate is suitable for the Fedora translation > > community > > +0 is sometimes used to indicate a disagreement but willingness to > > stand > > aside, this should also be accompanied with an explanation > > -1 to disagree, this should also be accompanied with an explanation > > > > GO is if the sum of answer is greater than zero. > > Please note: you can +1 and share your feedback about what is good > > and > > what is to improve in Weblate. > > > > Jean-Baptiste > > _______________________________________________ > > trans mailing list -- trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 19:20:19 +0530 > From: Pro Neon <proneon267(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: GO/NOGO for Weblate in production > To: Fedora Translation Project List <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: > < > CAEqCQC8J_HQL3A3Dau+jYz_ALCiZUcC659mYgK3xS3WuewQnXQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="00000000000067b495059b78f16e" > > --00000000000067b495059b78f16e > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > +1 for Odia (or) > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 19:15 Rafael Fontenelle <rafaelff(a)gnome.org> > wrote: > > > +1Brazilian Portuguese (pt_BR) > > Em seg., 6 de jan. de 2020 =C3=A0s 09:51, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft< > > jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> escreveu: > > > Dear translation team, > > > > > > we are experimenting Weblate for a few months now. > > > It's time to say if you feel confident the tool can allow us to > > > do our > > > job as a translation community. > > > > > > Please share the language in which you translate and answer: > > > +1 to confirm Weblate is suitable for the Fedora translation > > > community > > > +0 is sometimes used to indicate a disagreement but willingness > > > to stan= > d > > > aside, this should also be accompanied with an explanation > > > -1 to disagree, this should also be accompanied with an > > > explanation > > > > > > GO is if the sum of answer is greater than zero. > > > Please note: you can +1 and share your feedback about what is > > > good and > > > what is to improve in Weblate. > > > > > > Jean-Baptiste > > > _______________________________________________ > > > trans mailing list -- trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.o= > rg > > _______________________________________________ > > trans mailing list -- trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.o= > rg > > --00000000000067b495059b78f16e > Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <div dir=3D"auto">+1 for Odia (or)</div><br><div > class=3D"gmail_quote"><div= > dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 19:15 Rafael > Fontene= > lle <<a href=3D"mailto:rafaelff@gnome.org">rafaelff(a)gnome.org</a>& > gt; wr= > ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 > .8ex;= > border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">+1<br> > Brazilian Portuguese (pt_BR)<br> > <br> > Em seg., 6 de jan. de 2020 =C3=A0s 09:51, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft<br> > <<a href=3D"mailto:jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr" target=3D"_blank" > rel=3D"n= > oreferrer">jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr</a>> escreveu:<br> > ><br> > > Dear translation team,<br> > ><br> > > we are experimenting Weblate for a few months now.<br> > > It's time to say if you feel confident the tool can allow us > to do= > our<br> > > job as a translation community.<br> > ><br> > > Please share the language in which you translate and answer:<br> > > +1 to confirm Weblate is suitable for the Fedora translation > community= > <br> > > +0 is sometimes used to indicate a disagreement but willingness > to sta= > nd<br> > > aside, this should also be accompanied with an explanation<br> > > -1 to disagree, this should also be accompanied with an > explanation<br= > ><br> > > GO is if the sum of answer is greater than zero.<br> > > Please note: you can +1 and share your feedback about what is > good and= > <br> > > what is to improve in Weblate.<br> > ><br> > > Jean-Baptiste<br> > > _______________________________________________<br> > > trans mailing list -- <a href=3D"mailto: > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org"= > target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org</ > a><br> > > To unsubscribe send an email to <a href=3D"mailto: > trans-leave(a)lists.fe= > doraproject.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"> > trans-leave(a)lists.fed= > oraproject.org</a><br> > > Fedora Code of Conduct: <a href=3D" > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-U= > S/project/code-of-conduct/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" > target=3D"_blank"= > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/</a><br> > > List Guidelines: <a href=3D" > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_lis= > t_guidelines" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"> > https://fedor= > 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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : L10N
by jibecfed＠fedoraproject.org 06 Jan '20

06 Jan '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: L10N on 2020-01-06 from 13:00:00 to 13:30:00 Europe/Paris At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Localization meeting https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20190916T150000&p… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings](https://fedoraproject.org/wik… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9620/

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New migrated projects
by Jean-Baptiste 05 Jan '20

05 Jan '20

Dear translation teams, we have a few new projects on weblate. Four ibus projects (mostly for asiatic languages typing): https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/ibus/ibus/ https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/ibus/ibus-anthy/ https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/ibus-input-pad/ https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/ibus-table/ A password quality checking library https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/libpwquality/ A cube for Fedora Booths https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/projects/fedora-cheat-cubes/ You can follow these addition using this filter (rss link is available): https://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org/changes/?project=&lang=&action=51&a… Here are some stats: … Not concerned by the migration: 23 … Project migration did not start yet: 80 … Migration in progress: 5 … Migration is done: 7 Total projects to migrate: 94 The major issue is project who don't store pot file. See https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3349 Have a good translating time, Jean-Baptiste

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