Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:12:10 +0200 було написано Yaron Shahrabani
<sh.yaron(a)gmail.com>:
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Yuri Chornoivan
<yurchor(a)ukr.net>
wrote:
> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:10:05 +0200 було написано Yaron Shahrabani <
> sh.yaron(a)gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor(a)ukr.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:49:18 +0200 було написано Yaron Shahrabani <
>>> sh.yaron(a)gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Yuri!
>>>
>>>> Just to make sure, is this package using CLDR?
>>>>
>>>> Yaron Shahrabani
>>>>
>>>> <Hebrew translator>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Yaron!
>>>
>>> No. It is not. It is Fedora/Red Hat-only solution, not used in any
>>> other
>>> distributions (AFAIK).
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yuri
>>>
>>> Hi again!
>>
>> CLDR has nothing to do with cross distro, it's a standard directory for
>> international definitions like the names of the day in each language or
>> the
>> name of the months, names of languages, countries etc.
>>
>> This way you don't need to wait for the translators to do it, you just
>> copy
>> this definitions from there or use it via an external package providing
>> all
>> this info (I think it's called ICU).
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Yaron Shahrabani.
>>
>
> No, system-config-date does not use CLDR and I am not a developer of
> system-config-date. Please report bugs if you want this feature.
>
I see, thanks for the clarification.
>
> The crowd translations from CLDR are of very low quality (imho) and
> should
> be used with great care, at least for Ukrainian. The results of their
> application at transifex are not very promising. The general idea was
> good
> but the implementation is very inflexible and at least sometimes leads
> to
> mistakes.
>
Why don't you get involved in CLDR in order to fix that?
>
> Broken dates in Ukrainian locale on Transifex due to mistakes in CLDR:
>
>
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**55247264/broken_dates.png<http://dl.dropbox....
Do you need my assistance in opening a bug in CLDR?
No. Thank you. They switched off SurveyTool so I think that they have
their own translators. They do not need my assistance to make their own
mistakes. ;)
Thanks for pointing that out, I had no idea, In Hebrew it works
pretty
well.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Yuri
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor(a)ukr.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might already realized that system-config-date translations [1]
>>>>> were
>>>>> wiped due to minor mistake in template names (the original template
>>>>> was
>>>>> replaced by system-config-date interface template, then restored).
>>>>>
>>>>> The maintainer answered to my request as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> "it seems that I've made a copy-paste error, I should have
fixed
>>>>> this
>>>>> now."
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the template is on its right place and the translations can be
>>>>> restored using POs from src RPM. Just extract it for your language
>>>>> then
>>>>> upload to Transifex [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Yuri
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
https://fedora.transifex.com/******projects/p/system-config-****
>>>>>
date/**<https://fedora.transifex.com/****projects/p/system-config-**da...
>>>>>
<
https://fedora.**transifex.com/**projects/p/**system-config-date/**<ht...
>>>>> >
>>>>>
resource/timezones_master/<**htt**ps://fedora.transifex.**com/**<ht...
>>>>> projects/p/system-config-date/****resource/timezones_master/<h**
>>>>>
ttps://fedora.transifex.com/**projects/p/system-config-date/**
>>>>>
resource/timezones_master/<https://fedora.transifex.com/projects/p/sys...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> [2]
>>>>>
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/******fedora/linux/development/**<ftp://fr...
>>>>>
<**ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/****fedora/linux/development/**<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/**fedora/linux/development/**>
>>>>> >
>>>>> rawhide/source/SRPMS/s/system-******config-date-1.10.5-1.fc19.**
>>>>> **src.**rpm<
>>>>> ftp://fr2.rpmfind.**net/linux/**fedora/linux/**development/**
>>>>> rawhide/source/
>>>>> **SRPMS/s/system-config-date-**1.**10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm<ftp://**
>>>>>
fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/**linux/development/rawhide/**
>>>>>
source/SRPMS/s/system-config-**date-1.10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm<ftp://fr2.rp...
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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