Hi,
The old bindconf package is replaced by the new system-config-bind package. I have merged all existing translation into the new package and added this to translate module. There are two ways to get the files from cvs:
a. do a fresh check out of "translate" module. b. cd to your existing translate module, issue rm -rf bindconf/ cvs co -d system-config-bind system-config-bind/devel/system-config-bind-4.0.0/po
Cheers, Sarah
El dc 18 de 05 del 2005 a les 15:36 +1000, en/na Sarah Wang va escriure:
Hi,
The old bindconf package is replaced by the new system-config-bind package. I have merged all existing translation into the new package and added this to translate module.
This package (as it is now) is not going into FC4, is it?
Could you keep the same maintainership as it was for bindconf, please? Thanks!
There are two ways to get the files from cvs:
a. do a fresh check out of "translate" module. b. cd to your existing translate module, issue rm -rf bindconf/ cvs co -d system-config-bind system-config-bind/devel/system-config-bind-4.0.0/po
Cheers, Sarah
/Josep
On Wednesday 18 May 2005 22:04, Josep Puigdemont wrote:
El dc 18 de 05 del 2005 a les 15:36 +1000, en/na Sarah Wang va escriure:
Hi,
The old bindconf package is replaced by the new system-config-bind package. I have merged all existing translation into the new package and added this to translate module.
This package (as it is now) is not going into FC4, is it?
is it already available as an update for FC3, so I think it will definitely be in FC4
Hi,
On 5/19/05, Ronny Buchmann ronny-vlug@vlugnet.org wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2005 22:04, Josep Puigdemont wrote:
El dc 18 de 05 del 2005 a les 15:36 +1000, en/na Sarah Wang va escriure:
Hi,
The old bindconf package is replaced by the new system-config-bind package. I have merged all existing translation into the new package and added this to translate module.
This package (as it is now) is not going into FC4, is it?
is it already available as an update for FC3, so I think it will definitely be in FC4
Mmm, I think I don't quite guet the schedule, then: http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/
Do we have "string freezes" or not? When?
What does "translation deadline" mean? What does "translation build freeze" mean?
Could we please sort this out? (we could add the answers to the translation FAQ, or a note on the schedule's page, maybe?)
I think we should reorganize the Fedora translation project.
/Josep
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 21:47, Josep Puigdemont wrote:
Mmm, I think I don't quite guet the schedule, then: http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/
Do we have "string freezes" or not? When?
String freeze means no more string changes from the developers side.
What does "translation deadline" mean?
Translation deadline means no more translation changes from the translators side.
What does "translation build freeze" mean?
Translation build freeze means last build with the latest translation included.
Could we please sort this out? (we could add the answers to the translation FAQ, or a note on the schedule's page, maybe?)
Good suggestion. I'll see to it. However, we all need to understand that above definition happens in an ideal world, and requires lot of disciplines from all parties :)
I think we should reorganize the Fedora translation project.
You are absolutely right. We do need to raise the i18n awareness of the package maintainers.
I'd also like to apologize for getting this package in the translate module so late. I wasn't aware it until recently. It would be nice to have the developers to announce the availability of a new module to this list.
Sarah
Hi,
El dj 19 de 05 del 2005 a les 22:13 +1000, en/na Sarah Wang va escriure:
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 21:47, Josep Puigdemont wrote:
Mmm, I think I don't quite guet the schedule, then: http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/
Do we have "string freezes" or not? When?
String freeze means no more string changes from the developers side.
Question was if we had those or not ;-), but I suppose we have them under "string change deadline", is that correct? (if so, could we rename it to the more common "string freeze"?) Also, just point out that "string change deadline" was on the 30th of March, according to the schedule (approximately a month and a half ago).
What does "translation deadline" mean?
Translation deadline means no more translation changes from the translators side.
In that case we can not do our job well, because a couple of modules came with strings after the announced "translation deadline": system-config-bind, and recently firstboot.
What does "translation build freeze" mean?
Translation build freeze means last build with the latest translation included.
That happened the 10th of May. system-config-bind came out the 18th, iirc, does this mean that it won't have the new strings translated for FC4? (whenever we manage to translate the 653 new and 108 fuzzy that came up, notice it was 100% translated at "string change deadline").
Could we please sort this out? (we could add the answers to the translation FAQ, or a note on the schedule's page, maybe?)
Good suggestion. I'll see to it. However, we all need to understand that above definition happens in an ideal world, and requires lot of disciplines from all parties :)
Specially from the developers side. We (translators) try to commit to the schedule and are in fact bound to it, if the packager is not going to accept more translated strings after the announced "translation deadline" (10th may for FC4), then we are screwed when a module or new strings appear more than a week later (this happened already in FC3, iirc). Also, I am not sure that all packagers rebuild their translations before packaging.
I think we should reorganize the Fedora translation project.
You are absolutely right. We do need to raise the i18n awareness of the package maintainers.
Excellent, I agree with you in spreading awareness to developers. If an application is not translated into a language, it becomes _unusable_, and that's like an application crashing at start up, a huge bug (imho). The worse in FC3 was installing it in my language (not English :) and having the web browser in English...
I'd also like to apologize for getting this package in the translate module so late. I wasn't aware it until recently. It would be nice to have the developers to announce the availability of a new module to this list.
No, this is not your fault, I rather think it is the process' fault (as for what FC translations goes). I would personally not allow any changes made to these modules after the announced "string freeze". I know it won't happen, but it would certainly raise awareness among developers ;-) (and users unfortunately)
Regards, and I apologize for the whining!
/Josep
Hallo Sara, I try do deposit the it.po, but I got this message...
... cvs [server aborted]: could not open lock file `/usr/local/CVS/system- config-bind/devel/system-config-bind-4.0.0/po/,it.po,': Permission denied ...
the job is already assigned to me from the web interface. What can I do?
Il giorno mer, 18-05-2005 alle 15:36 +1000, Sarah Wang ha scritto:
Hi,
The old bindconf package is replaced by the new system-config-bind package. I have merged all existing translation into the new package and added this to translate module. There are two ways to get the files from cvs:
a. do a fresh check out of "translate" module. b. cd to your existing translate module, issue rm -rf bindconf/ cvs co -d system-config-bind system-config-bind/devel/system-config-bind-4.0.0/po
Cheers, Sarah
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On Thursday 19 May 2005 06:46, Francesco Tombolini wrote:
Hallo Sara, I try do deposit the it.po, but I got this message...
... cvs [server aborted]: could not open lock file `/usr/local/CVS/system- config-bind/devel/system-config-bind-4.0.0/po/,it.po,': Permission denied
same problem for de.po
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