The meaning of the two strings in Comps

[Tiansworld]

Hi everyone,

When translate comps, I see two sentences "Packages mandatory for the
server product." and "Packages mandatory for the workstation product."

Are the "server" and "workstation" in these sentences  refer to "Fedora
Server" and "Fedora Workstation" respectively?

I guess so, what's your opinion?

Regards,

Tian Shixiong
Fedora Project Contributor

On 27 April 2016 at 20:21, tiansworld  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> When translate comps, I see two sentences "Packages mandatory for the
> server product." and "Packages mandatory for the workstation product."
>
> Are the "server" and "workstation" in these sentences  refer to "Fedora
> Server" and "Fedora Workstation" respectively?
>
> I guess so, what's your opinion?

Yes, you are right. These belong to Fedora Workstation and Fedora Server
products.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

[Gianluca Sforna]

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:51 PM, [e-mail]
 wrote:
> Yes, you are right. These belong to Fedora Workstation and Fedora Server
> products.

In this case, it would be probably a good idea to spell it out
explicitly in the original string, as translators knows they have to
leave the products names intact.

[Jean-Baptiste]

Le 28/04/2016 à 11:56, Gianluca Sforna a écrit :
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:51 PM, [e-mail]
>  wrote:
> > Yes, you are right. These belong to Fedora Workstation and Fedora Server
> > products.
>
> In this case, it would be probably a good idea to spell it out
> explicitly in the original string, as translators knows they have to
> leave the products names intact.

Makes sense, but it would require to make one other string change after 
deadline. We'll have to wait after F24, and there is many places where 
the strings don't properly use fedora products names.

Note if someone did't know : we don't translate Fedora products names 
because of trademark : 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines

[Tiansworld]

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Jean-Baptiste 
wrote:
> Le 28/04/2016 à 11:56, Gianluca Sforna a écrit :
> > In this case, it would be probably a good idea to spell it out
> > explicitly in the original string, as translators knows they have to
> > leave the products names intact.
> >
> > Makes sense, but it would require to make one other string change after
>
> deadline. We'll have to wait after F24, and there is many places where the
> strings don't properly use fedora products names.

Thanks.
If original strings are not easy/appropriate to change(For example, the
change may take more spaces which may exceed the margin of a dialog box
etc.). Then I think we can also take advantage of the comment feature of
the PO file to tell translators the context or ideas that the
writer/developer wants to express.

[Jean-Baptiste]

Le 28 avril 2016 17:01:52 CEST, tiansworld  a écrit :
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Jean-Baptiste
>
> wrote:
> > Le 28/04/2016 à 11:56, Gianluca Sforna a écrit :
> > > In this case, it would be probably a good idea to spell it out
> > > explicitly in the original string, as translators knows they have to
> > > leave the products names intact.
> > >
> > > Makes sense, but it would require to make one other string change
>
> after
> > deadline. We'll have to wait after F24, and there is many places
>
> where the
> > strings don't properly use fedora products names.
>
> Thanks.
> If original strings are not easy/appropriate to change(For example, the
> change may take more spaces which may exceed the margin of a dialog box
> etc.). Then I think we can also take advantage of the comment feature
> of
> the PO file to tell translators the context or ideas that the
> writer/developer wants to express.
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Tian Shixiong
> Fedora Project Contributor
>
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I'll quote pravins : good point!!! ;)

Can you please create a ticket in rh bugzilla for component comps ?

On 28 April 2016 at 21:38, Jean-Baptiste  wrote:
> Le 28 avril 2016 17:01:52 CEST, tiansworld 
> a écrit :
> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Jean-Baptiste <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > > Le 28/04/2016 à 11:56, Gianluca Sforna a écrit :
> > > > In this case, it would be probably a good idea to spell it out
> > > > explicitly in the original string, as translators knows they have to
> > > > leave the products names intact.
> > > >
> > > > Makes sense, but it would require to make one other string change after
> > >
> > > deadline. We'll have to wait after F24, and there is many places where the
> > > strings don't properly use fedora products names.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > If original strings are not easy/appropriate to change(For example, the
> > change may take more spaces which may exceed the margin of a dialog box
> > etc.). Then I think we can also take advantage of the comment feature of
> > the PO file to tell translators the context or ideas that the
> > writer/developer wants to express.
> >
> > I'll quote pravins : good point!!! ;)

Indeed good points :p
> Can you please create a ticket in rh bugzilla for component comps ?

I have reported bug. [1] Hopefully will get some attention here. Feel free
to add more information there.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1332181