[websites] Help to proofread localized date format

[Kévin Raymond]

Dear translators,

The websites team has just added on the websites (in staging actually) the
Fedora release schedule.

It would be awesome if you can proofread it at:
http://stg.fedoraproject.org/get-fedora#schedule
(We will move the content, don't spread it yet)

We will add strings on the POT, but we need your help to proofread the
'Release Date' column, as it is localized during the build.
The issue is that I get a string with date+time, and I want to strip the
time part.
It should be all good for all languages but: as, bg, hu, ja, ko, lv, nb, te
(vi is stuck actually, the right encoding is not defined on the builder,
will fix it soon).

If you see an error (like a word which should be removed), tell me.
If you know Regex, you can see (and improve) mine at:
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-web.git/tree/fedoraproject.org/d...

Thanks for your help!

And thanks to robyduck who introduced this feature

-- 
Kévin Raymond
(Shaiton)

[Henrik Hodne]

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On 09/14/2013 06:41 AM, Kévin Raymond wrote:
>  We will add strings on the POT, but we need your help to proofread
>  the 'Release Date' column, as it is localized during the build. The
>  issue is that I get a string with date+time, and I want to strip
>  the time part. It should be all good for all languages but: as, bg,
>  hu, ja, ko, lv, nb, te (vi is stuck actually, the right encoding is
>  not defined on the builder, will fix it soon).
>  
>  If you see an error (like a word which should be removed), tell
>  me. If you know Regex, you can see (and improve) mine at: 
>
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-web.git/tree/fedoraproject.org/d...
For
>   
Norwegian Bokmål (nb, which you mentioned above), the time is
included. An example timestamp is "ti. 24. sep. 2013 kl. 00.00".
Without the time it would be "ti. 24. sep. 2013".

- --Henrik
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[Leslie S Satenstein]

Hi Hendrik

From your git reference example, I noted that you are fetching the date and time with
"%c" as opposed to calling the strftime with two appropriate parameters. 

I would just do two function calls, one using "%F" and a second call to strftime
with "%T"
or combine the two calls to strftime usingyour own separator between the two parts vis

strftime("%F@%T"). Search the return string for the "@" character to
date and time parts.  Don't want to use the "@" symbol, then substitute your
own character.

Leslie
   

On 09/14/2013 06:41 AM, Kévin Raymond wrote:
> > We will add strings on the POT, but we need your help to
> proofread
> > the 'Release Date' column, as it is localized during the build. The
> > issue is that I get a string with date+time, and I want to strip
> > the time part. It should be all good for all languages but: as, bg,
> > hu, ja, ko, lv, nb, te (vi is stuck actually, the right encoding is
> > not defined on the builder, will fix it soon).
> > 
> > If you see an error (like a word which should be removed), tell
> > me. If you know Regex, you can see (and improve) mine at: 
> >
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-web.git/tree/fedoraproject.org/d...
>
> For
> > 
> Norwegian Bokmål (nb, which you mentioned above), the time is
> included. An example timestamp is "ti. 24. sep. 2013 kl. 00.00".
> Without the time it would be "ti. 24. sep. 2013".
>
> - --Henrik
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[Kévin Raymond]

Le samedi 14 sept. 2013 à 06:50:18 (-0700), Leslie S Satenstein a écrit : 
>  Hi Hendrik
>  
>  From your git reference example, I noted that you are fetching the date and
>  time with "%c" as opposed to calling the strftime with two appropriate
>  parameters. 
That's because I want it localized using the "right" format.

>  
>  I would just do two function calls, one using "%F" and a second call to
>  strftime with "%T" 
%F is using the en_US format (YYYY-MM-DD). Which is not what I am looking
for. So your proposal is to keep US date format?

>  or combine the two calls to strftime using your own separator between
> the two
>  parts vis 
[snip]

Thanks, but I prefer to display only the date, and if I can make it
working for all languages the right way, that's better.

-- 
Kévin Raymond
(Shaiton)

[Kévin Raymond]

>  For
> >   
>  Norwegian Bokmål (nb, which you mentioned above), the time
> is
>  included. An example timestamp is "ti. 24. sep. 2013 kl. 00.00".
>  Without the time it would be "ti. 24. sep. 2013". 
Ok thanks. Will it always start with "kl."? Or is it something like AM/PM
(English)? (Is it two chars only, with the dot then the time?)
>

[Piotr Drąg]

2013/9/14 Kévin Raymond <shaiton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Dear translators,
>
>  The websites team has just added on the websites (in staging actually) the
>  Fedora release schedule.
>
>  It would be awesome if you can proofread it at:
>  http://stg.fedoraproject.org/get-fedora#schedule
>  (We will move the content, don't spread it yet)
>
>  We will add strings on the POT, but we need your help to proofread the
>  'Release Date' column, as it is localized during the build.
>  The issue is that I get a string with date+time, and I want to strip the
>  time part.
>  It should be all good for all languages but: as, bg, hu, ja, ko, lv, nb, te
>  (vi is stuck actually, the right encoding is not defined on the builder,
>  will fix it soon).
>
>  If you see an error (like a word which should be removed), tell me.
>  If you know Regex, you can see (and improve) mine at:
>
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-web.git/tree/fedoraproject.org/d...
>
>  Thanks for your help!
>  
In the Polish version the date format is correct, but the time
probably shouldn't be there. Now it's "wto, 24 wrz 2013, 00:00:00",
while "wto, 24 wrz 2013" would be desirable.

Thanks for taking care of this,

-- 
Piotr Drąg
http://raven.fedorapeople.org/

[Fernando Espinoza Onassis]

hi :)
a question? can translate fedora installation guide, I tried but will not
let me


2013/9/14 Piotr Drąg <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  2013/9/14 Kévin Raymond <shaiton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  > Dear translators,
>  >
>  > The websites team has just added on the websites (in staging actually)
>  the
>  > Fedora release schedule.
>  >
>  > It would be awesome if you can proofread it at:
>  > http://stg.fedoraproject.org/get-fedora#schedule
>  > (We will move the content, don't spread it yet)
>  >
>  > We will add strings on the POT, but we need your help to proofread the
>  > 'Release Date' column, as it is localized during the build.
>  > The issue is that I get a string with date+time, and I want to strip the
>  > time part.
>  > It should be all good for all languages but: as, bg, hu, ja, ko, lv, nb,
>  te
>  > (vi is stuck actually, the right encoding is not defined on the builder,
>  > will fix it soon).
>  >
>  > If you see an error (like a word which should be removed), tell me.
>  > If you know Regex, you can see (and improve) mine at:
>  >
>
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-web.git/tree/fedoraproject.org/d...
>  >
>  > Thanks for your help!
>  >
>
>  In the Polish version the date format is correct, but the time
>  probably shouldn't be there. Now it's "wto, 24 wrz 2013, 00:00:00",
>  while "wto, 24 wrz 2013" would be desirable.
>
>  Thanks for taking care of this,
>
>  --
>  Piotr Drąg
>  http://raven.fedorapeople.org/
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>

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Kévin Raymond <shaiton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;wrote:

>  Dear translators,
>
>  The websites team has just added on the websites (in staging actually) the
>  Fedora release schedule.
>
>  It would be awesome if you can proofread it at:
>  http://stg.fedoraproject.org/get-fedora#schedule
>  (We will move the content, don't spread it yet)
>
>  We will add strings on the POT, but we need your help to proofread the
>  'Release Date' column, as it is localized during the build.
>  The issue is that I get a string with date+time, and I want to strip the
>  time part.
>  It should be all good for all languages but: as, bg, hu, ja, ko, lv, nb, te
>  (vi is stuck actually, the right encoding is not defined on the builder,
>  will fix it soon).
>  
In zh-TW, the string in not presented as translated ones. They are
something like "Tue 24 Sep 2013".
What should I do to help fix this issue?


>  If you see an error (like a word which should be removed), tell me.
>  If you know Regex, you can see (and improve) mine at:
>
>
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-web.git/tree/fedoraproject.org/d...
>
>  Thanks for your help!
>
>  And thanks to robyduck who introduced this feature
>
>  --
>  Kévin Raymond
>  (Shaiton)
>
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>  


-- 
Cheers,
by Cheng-Chia Tseng

[Christopher Meng]

On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Cheng-Chia Tseng <pswo10680(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
[cut]

Yeah, same in zh_CN.

Tue 24 Sep 2013 is not the common usage for Chinese people. If I
translate our syntax into English directly, it should be: 2013 Sep 24
Tue.

[Kévin Raymond]

Hi,

@Piotr
Sure, I pushed a fix would be live in 1h from now.

@Cheng-Chia, Christopher
Thanks for the report, in fact the locale should have been lower case...
Fixed now and would be live in 1h also.
There is still the time on that string.. I need to decode it first, and
then will update the script.

@Hendrik
updated, "kl. " should have desapeared.

We have until Alpha release to make this perfect, so please if you still
see an issue few days before Alpha release, tell me.

Cheers,

-- 
Kévin Raymond
(Shaiton)

[Kévin Raymond]

I changed a bit the logic, but there is still room for improvement.
I should not need your input anymore with regard to the date localization,
thanks for your inputs!

However, please review it few days before alpha lunch!

On a side note, I pushed the updated POT, please proofread at
stg.fedoraproject.org and report any errors.
Stings at fedoraproject.org (production) are frozen.

You can expect few changes (new strings) by next week when we will move the
release schedule table on the right place, but would really be light
changes.

thanks & see ya

-- 
Kévin Raymond
(Shaiton)

[Christopher Meng]

Nice.

I just viewed again, seems very nice.

Thanks!