Proven translators group

[Piotr Drąg]

Hello all,

I've been thinking of a new FAS group to give experienced translators
a possibility to directly commit translations, based on
provenpackagers idea. It would give translators with good git/hg/etc
knowledge a chance to speed up their workflow, fix some common l10n
issues (outdated POTFILES.in, POT file rebuilds etc.) by themselves
etc. This is how GNOME projects works, and as many of you may know, it
works well. :)

Basically joining proventranslators group will give read/write access
to every repository on fedorahosted.org, so joining requests need to
be carefully verified. This process would be entirely optional, and
most translators will continue to use Transifex.

Any opinions, other ideas? Is it even technically possible?

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[Kévin Raymond]

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Piotr Drąg <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hello all,
>
>  I've been thinking of a new FAS group to give experienced translators
>  a possibility to directly commit translations, based on
>  provenpackagers idea. It would give translators with good git/hg/etc
>  knowledge a chance to speed up their workflow, fix some common l10n
>  issues (outdated POTFILES.in, POT file rebuilds etc.) by themselves
>  etc. This is how GNOME projects works, and as many of you may know, it
>  works well. :)
>
>  Basically joining proventranslators group will give read/write access
>  to every repository on fedorahosted.org, so joining requests need to
>  be carefully verified. This process would be entirely optional, and
>  most translators will continue to use Transifex.
>
>  Any opinions, other ideas? Is it even technically possible?
>
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>  Piotr Drąg
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Hey,

This won't really be needed if we move to transifex.net has commit
will be easier.
Of course, for specific projects (like docs) being able to commit many
small files would be helpful.

For information, here are the minutes from today l10n meeting:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-02-15/fedora-meeting...


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[Piotr Drąg]

2011/2/15 Kévin Raymond <shaiton(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  This won't really be needed if we move to transifex.net has
> commit
>  will be easier.
>  Of course, for specific projects (like docs) being able to commit many
>  small files would be helpful.
>  
I think it still would be helpful after the move. Also we already have
exactly that for docs -- the docs-writers group, which has access to
every doc in git. It turn out to work great for more experienced
translators/maintainers. Hypothetical 'proventranslators' would extend
the access to every git/hg project with translations.

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[Runa Bhattacharjee]

On বুধবার 16 ফেব্রুয়ারি 2011 01:13 , Piotr Drąg wrote:
>  I think it still would be helpful after the move. Also we already have
>  exactly that for docs -- the docs-writers group, which has access to every
>  doc in git. It turn out to work great for more experienced
>  translators/maintainers. Hypothetical 'proventranslators' would extend the
>  access to every git/hg project with translations.
>  
However, one may need to extend the FAS features or get some other mechanism in
place, to ensure that access to the repos (esp. devel repos) are adequately
controlled and allowed only for translators approved by the Team Coordinator.
GNOME Mango has the feature with additional vouching done by the GTP Coordinators.

regards
Runa

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[Yuri Chornoivan]

написане Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:25:01 +0200, Piotr Drąg <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  Hello all,
>
>  I've been thinking of a new FAS group to give experienced translators
>  a possibility to directly commit translations, based on
>  provenpackagers idea. It would give translators with good git/hg/etc
>  knowledge a chance to speed up their workflow, fix some common l10n
>  issues (outdated POTFILES.in, POT file rebuilds etc.) by themselves
>  etc. This is how GNOME projects works, and as many of you may know, it
>  works well. :)
>
>  Basically joining proventranslators group will give read/write access
>  to every repository on fedorahosted.org, so joining requests need to
>  be carefully verified. This process would be entirely optional, and
>  most translators will continue to use Transifex.
>
>  Any opinions, other ideas? Is it even technically possible?
>  
Hi,

To assure that this group is necessary it will be interesting to know how  
much translators should (or would like to) be promoted to this group.

May it be that adding them to provenpackagers will be enough?

Thanks in advance.

[Piotr Drąg]

2011/2/15 Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor(a)ukr.net&gt;:
>  To assure that this group is necessary it will be interesting to know
> how
>  much translators should (or would like to) be promoted to this group.
>  
I'd like to keep that list to a minimum. Any candidate will need to
prove himself/herself - be a known member of a community, with a
history of git usage etc.

Also, there is no need to make it any kind of 'official' thing or a
goal to achieve for translators - just a small, additional way to help
some people.

>  May it be that adding them to provenpackagers will be enough?
>  
Provenpackagers covers pkgs.fedoraproject.org and koji/bodhi, we want
to cover fedorahosted.org.

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