Khmer Localization

[Leap Sok]

Hello Fedora Trans Team(s),

This is Leap SOK, I am working with the Cambodian Fedora team this
weekend to localize the Fedora to Khmer language.

This is my FAS account: Leapsok

Best,
Leap

Dirty localization statistics with Zanata

[Jean-Baptiste]

Hi there,

I was unhappy with Zanata's statistics as it's not having a global 
overview of translations in one language (please see 
https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/fr/ to have an idea of something helpful).
With the API, I decided to try to get some more information.
Despite the fact that API is pretty bad (I get many errors 415 I don't 
understand), I was able to get information project by project.

You can download the actual translation statistics at :
https://framadrop.org/r/P7f013QJZs#hXTuA+et/0Gr/Z9gqnKQj57AnsuNn822Cr/90z5rU...

If you want to see/improve the code (especially the list of 
project/iteration), please access the link :
https://github.com/Jibec/fedora-zanata-statistics

Programming is not my profession, I'll be pleased to be advice and help.
If something better exists, I'm also interested.

Best,

Dirty localization statistics with Zanata

On 31 October 2015 at 18:37, Jean-Baptiste 
wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I was unhappy with Zanata's statistics as it's not having a global
> overview of translations in one language (please see
> https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/fr/ to have an idea of something helpful).
> With the API, I decided to try to get some more information.
> Despite the fact that API is pretty bad (I get many errors 415 I don't
> understand), I was able to get information project by project.
>
> You can download the actual translation statistics at :
>
> https://framadrop.org/r/P7f013QJZs#hXTuA+et/0Gr/Z9gqnKQj57AnsuNn822Cr/90z5rU...
>
> If you want to see/improve the code (especially the list of
> project/iteration), please access the link :
> https://github.com/Jibec/fedora-zanata-statistics

Thanks for your feedback.
We recently had Zanata survey and going to evaluate it in G11N FAD
happening from tomorrow. Will discuss on your feedback as well, hoping
someone will quickly give you reply here as well.

I think we need to organize open Zanata testing day as well for Fedora.
> Programming is not my profession, I'll be pleased to be advice and help.
> If something better exists, I'm also interested.

Excellent. Indeed we are looking more people who can use and provide active
feedback on improvement of Fedora project. Feel free to join meeting and as
you did keep on posting issues here :)

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

_______________________________________________
g11n mailing list
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https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n

Dirty localization statistics with Zanata

[Alex Eng]

Hi Jean,

Sorry about the issue you are having with the statistic query.

Can you please let me know the the REST API URL you are using to get the
statistics?

With the overall statistics you mentioned for all project, unlike gnome,
Fedora projects/packages doesn't sync version into same release.
That makes it hard for create an API of statistics for 1 language of all
projects which doesn't really mean anything.

Having said that, please feel free to let me know if there's anything I can
help out with your workflow.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:50 PM, [e-mail] <[e-mail]
> wrote:
> On 31 October 2015 at 18:37, Jean-Baptiste 
> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I was unhappy with Zanata's statistics as it's not having a global
> > overview of translations in one language (please see
> > https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/fr/ to have an idea of something helpful).
> > With the API, I decided to try to get some more information.
> > Despite the fact that API is pretty bad (I get many errors 415 I don't
> > understand), I was able to get information project by project.
> >
> > You can download the actual translation statistics at :
> >
> > https://framadrop.org/r/P7f013QJZs#hXTuA+et/0Gr/Z9gqnKQj57AnsuNn822Cr/90z5rU...
> >
> > If you want to see/improve the code (especially the list of
> > project/iteration), please access the link :
> > https://github.com/Jibec/fedora-zanata-statistics
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
> We recently had Zanata survey and going to evaluate it in G11N FAD
> happening from tomorrow. Will discuss on your feedback as well, hoping
> someone will quickly give you reply here as well.
>
> I think we need to organize open Zanata testing day as well for Fedora.
> > Programming is not my profession, I'll be pleased to be advice and help.
> > If something better exists, I'm also interested.
>
> Excellent. Indeed we are looking more people who can use and provide
> active feedback on improvement of Fedora project. Feel free to join meeting
> and as you did keep on posting issues here :)
>
> Regards,
> Pravin Satpute
>
> g11n mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n

Dirty localization statistics with Zanata

[Jean-Baptiste]

Hi Alex,

Where should we post issues about fedora.zanata ?

It's indeed hard to have overall statistics due to a missing Version 
identification.
We should at least be able to have something like : if no dedicated 
Fedora 23-Version then give stats for last Version of a Project

Second question : how to know that a translation is partially or totally 
in end-user files ?

regards,

Le 01/11/2015 01:59, Alex Eng a écrit :
> Hi Jean,
>
> Sorry about the issue you are having with the statistic query.
>
> Can you please let me know the the REST API URL you are using to get 
> the statistics?
>
> With the overall statistics you mentioned for all project, unlike 
> gnome, Fedora projects/packages doesn't sync version into same release.
> That makes it hard for create an API of statistics for 1 language of 
> all projects which doesn't really mean anything.
>
> Having said that, please feel free to let me know if there's anything 
> I can help out with your workflow.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:50 PM, [e-mail] 
>  <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> On 31 October 2015 at 18:37, Jean-Baptiste
> <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi there,
>
>     I was unhappy with Zanata's statistics as it's not having a
>     global overview of translations in one language (please see
>     https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/fr/ to have an idea of something
>     helpful).
>     With the API, I decided to try to get some more information.
>     Despite the fact that API is pretty bad (I get many errors 415
>     I don't understand), I was able to get information project by
>     project.
>
>     You can download the actual translation statistics at :
>     https://framadrop.org/r/P7f013QJZs#hXTuA+et/0Gr/Z9gqnKQj57AnsuNn822Cr/90z5rUkQ=
>
>     If you want to see/improve the code (especially the list of
>     project/iteration), please access the link :
>     https://github.com/Jibec/fedora-zanata-statistics
>
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
> We recently had Zanata survey and going to evaluate it in G11N FAD
> happening from tomorrow. Will discuss on your feedback as well,
> hoping someone will quickly give you reply here as well.
>
> I think we need to organize open Zanata testing day as well for
> Fedora.
>
>
>
>     Programming is not my profession, I'll be pleased to be advice
>     and help.
>     If something better exists, I'm also interested.
>
>
> Excellent. Indeed we are looking more people who can use and
> provide active feedback on improvement of Fedora project. Feel
> free to join meeting and as you did keep on posting issues here :)
>
> Regards,
> Pravin Satpute
>
> _______________________________________________
> g11n mailing list
> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Alex Eng
>
> g11n mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans

Dirty localization statistics with Zanata

[Luke Brooker]

Hi Jean,

The statistics per language across multiple projects is something I have
been thinking about a lot lately. There are few things that can be done in
the current version of Zanata and some other ideas I have for future
versions.

The best way to get these types of statistics right now are with *version
groups*. Version groups allow you to group projects and languages together
based on project version, which we have found is one of the better options
for “releases” right now. We may change how they work in the future based
on feedback, so if you have any that would be great.

Fedora has created some version-groups here:
https://fedora.zanata.org/version-group/list

If you wanted to see all the Fedora projects together, there could be
another group created to group them all together (e.g. Fedora 24).

The other option I am hoping to implement in the future would be *default
versions* for each project. This would give us some statistics to show at a
project list level, without having to choose a version first.

I hope this helps. Thank you for your feedback, if you have any further
questions we would love to hear them.

PS. We also have a more permanent place for questions now too:
https://zanata.atlassian.net/wiki/questions

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Jean-Baptiste 
wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Where should we post issues about fedora.zanata ?
>
> It's indeed hard to have overall statistics due to a missing Version
> identification.
> We should at least be able to have something like : if no dedicated Fedora
> 23-Version then give stats for last Version of a Project
>
> Second question : how to know that a translation is partially or totally
> in end-user files ?
>
> regards,
>
> Le 01/11/2015 01:59, Alex Eng a écrit :
>
> Hi Jean,
>
> Sorry about the issue you are having with the statistic query.
>
> Can you please let me know the the REST API URL you are using to get the
> statistics?
>
> With the overall statistics you mentioned for all project, unlike gnome,
> Fedora projects/packages doesn't sync version into same release.
> That makes it hard for create an API of statistics for 1 language of all
> projects which doesn't really mean anything.
>
> Having said that, please feel free to let me know if there's anything I
> can help out with your workflow.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:50 PM, 
> [e-mail]  wrote:
> > On 31 October 2015 at 18:37, Jean-Baptiste < 
> > [e-mail]> wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I was unhappy with Zanata's statistics as it's not having a global
> > > overview of translations in one language (please see
> > > https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/fr/ to have an idea of something helpful).
> > > With the API, I decided to try to get some more information.
> > > Despite the fact that API is pretty bad (I get many errors 415 I don't
> > > understand), I was able to get information project by project.
> > >
> > > You can download the actual translation statistics at :
> > >
> > > https://framadrop.org/r/P7f013QJZs#hXTuA+et/0Gr/Z9gqnKQj57AnsuNn822Cr/90z5rU...
> > >
> > > If you want to see/improve the code (especially the list of
> > > project/iteration), please access the link :
> > > https://github.com/Jibec/fedora-zanata-statistics
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback.
> > We recently had Zanata survey and going to evaluate it in G11N FAD
> > happening from tomorrow. Will discuss on your feedback as well, hoping
> > someone will quickly give you reply here as well.
> >
> > I think we need to organize open Zanata testing day as well for Fedora.
> > > Programming is not my profession, I'll be pleased to be advice and help.
> > > If something better exists, I'm also interested.
> >
> > Excellent. Indeed we are looking more people who can use and provide
> > active feedback on improvement of Fedora project. Feel free to join meeting
> > and as you did keep on posting issues here :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> > g11n mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
>
> --
> Alex Eng
>
> g11n mailing [e-mail]://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
>
> --
> trans mailing [e-mail]://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
>
> --
> trans mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans

Dirty localization statistics with Zanata

[Alex Eng]

Jean,

For posting issue, please file a bug in https://zanata.atlassian.net.

It's indeed hard to have overall statistics due to a missing Version
> identification.
> We should at least be able to have something like : if no dedicated Fedora
> 23-Version then give stats for last Version of a Project

Best way right now is to get into the group page. This is a group page
where all latest fedora release package are group together with relevant
statistic.
https://fedora.zanata.org/version-group/list
> Second question : how to know that a translation is partially or totally
> in end-user files ?

Totally translated? that would be if all statistics are 100% for all
languages. Or you can see the statistics in the editor document list.
http://docs.zanata.org/en/release/user-guide/editor/documents-view/

---------------------------------------------

Alex Eng
Globalisation Tools Engineering
DID: [phone] callto:+61+3514+8262
Mobile: [phone] callto:+614+2335+3457

Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd
Level 1, 193 North Quay
Brisbane 4000
Office: [phone] callto:+61+7+3514+8100
Fax: [phone] callto:+61+7+3514+8199
Website: www.redhat.com

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Jean-Baptiste 
wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Where should we post issues about fedora.zanata ?
>
> It's indeed hard to have overall statistics due to a missing Version
> identification.
> We should at least be able to have something like : if no dedicated Fedora
> 23-Version then give stats for last Version of a Project
>
> Second question : how to know that a translation is partially or totally
> in end-user files ?
>
> regards,
>
> Le 01/11/2015 01:59, Alex Eng a écrit :
>
> Hi Jean,
>
> Sorry about the issue you are having with the statistic query.
>
> Can you please let me know the the REST API URL you are using to get the
> statistics?
>
> With the overall statistics you mentioned for all project, unlike gnome,
> Fedora projects/packages doesn't sync version into same release.
> That makes it hard for create an API of statistics for 1 language of all
> projects which doesn't really mean anything.
>
> Having said that, please feel free to let me know if there's anything I
> can help out with your workflow.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:50 PM, 
> [e-mail]  wrote:
> > On 31 October 2015 at 18:37, Jean-Baptiste < 
> > [e-mail]> wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I was unhappy with Zanata's statistics as it's not having a global
> > > overview of translations in one language (please see
> > > https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/fr/ to have an idea of something helpful).
> > > With the API, I decided to try to get some more information.
> > > Despite the fact that API is pretty bad (I get many errors 415 I don't
> > > understand), I was able to get information project by project.
> > >
> > > You can download the actual translation statistics at :
> > >
> > > https://framadrop.org/r/P7f013QJZs#hXTuA+et/0Gr/Z9gqnKQj57AnsuNn822Cr/90z5rU...
> > >
> > > If you want to see/improve the code (especially the list of
> > > project/iteration), please access the link :
> > > https://github.com/Jibec/fedora-zanata-statistics
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback.
> > We recently had Zanata survey and going to evaluate it in G11N FAD
> > happening from tomorrow. Will discuss on your feedback as well, hoping
> > someone will quickly give you reply here as well.
> >
> > I think we need to organize open Zanata testing day as well for Fedora.
> > > Programming is not my profession, I'll be pleased to be advice and help.
> > > If something better exists, I'm also interested.
> >
> > Excellent. Indeed we are looking more people who can use and provide
> > active feedback on improvement of Fedora project. Feel free to join meeting
> > and as you did keep on posting issues here :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> > g11n mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
>
> --
> Alex Eng
>
> g11n mailing [e-mail]://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
>
> --
> trans mailing [e-mail]://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
>
> --
> trans mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans

Dirty localization statistics with Zanata

[Jean-Baptiste]

I did a little script to test some API possibilities and now it looks 
like everything is working ok, so you already had a look, thanks !

Zanata tells percentage of translation "in Zanata".
It have to go from Zanata to projects repositories of some kind.
I tried to have a look on ABRT commits, but havn't found anything.

It's more a process question than a tool question ;)

Le 02/11/2015 02:15, Alex Eng a écrit :
> Jean,
>
> For posting issue, please file a bug in https://zanata.atlassian.net.
> It's indeed hard to have overall statistics due to a missing
> Version identification.
> We should at least be able to have something like : if no
> dedicated Fedora 23-Version then give stats for last Version of a
> Project
>
>
> Best way right now is to get into the group page. This is a group page 
> where all latest fedora release package are group together with 
> relevant statistic.
> https://fedora.zanata.org/version-group/list
> Second question : how to know that a translation is partially or
> totally in end-user files ?
>
>
> Totally translated? that would be if all statistics are 100% for all 
> languages. Or you can see the statistics in the editor document list.
> http://docs.zanata.org/en/release/user-guide/editor/documents-view/
>
> Alex Eng
> Globalisation Tools Engineering
> DID:[phone] callto:+61+3514+8262
> Mobile:[phone] callto:+614+2335+3457
>
> Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd
> Level 1, 193 North Quay
> Brisbane 4000
> Office:[phone] callto:+61+7+3514+8100
> Fax:[phone] callto:+61+7+3514+8199
> Website:www.redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Jean-Baptiste 
> <[e-mail] > wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Where should we post issues about fedora.zanata ?
>
> It's indeed hard to have overall statistics due to a missing
> Version identification.
> We should at least be able to have something like : if no
> dedicated Fedora 23-Version then give stats for last Version of a
> Project
>
> Second question : how to know that a translation is partially or
> totally in end-user files ?
>
> regards,
>
> Le 01/11/2015 01:59, Alex Eng a écrit :
> > Hi Jean,
> >
> > Sorry about the issue you are having with the statistic query.
> >
> > Can you please let me know the the REST API URL you are using to
> > get the statistics?
> >
> > With the overall statistics you mentioned for all project, unlike
> > gnome, Fedora projects/packages doesn't sync version into same
> > release.
> > That makes it hard for create an API of statistics for 1 language
> > of all projects which doesn't really mean anything.
> >
> > Having said that, please feel free to let me know if there's
> > anything I can help out with your workflow.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:50 PM, [e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]> <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 31 October 2015 at 18:37, Jean-Baptiste
> >     <[e-mail]
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >         Hi there,
> >
> >         I was unhappy with Zanata's statistics as it's not having
> >         a global overview of translations in one language (please
> >         see https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/fr/ to have an idea of
> >         something helpful).
> >         With the API, I decided to try to get some more information.
> >         Despite the fact that API is pretty bad (I get many
> >         errors 415 I don't understand), I was able to get
> >         information project by project.
> >
> >         You can download the actual translation statistics at :
> >         https://framadrop.org/r/P7f013QJZs#hXTuA+et/0Gr/Z9gqnKQj57AnsuNn822Cr/90z5rUkQ=
> >
> >         If you want to see/improve the code (especially the list
> >         of project/iteration), please access the link :
> >         https://github.com/Jibec/fedora-zanata-statistics
> >
> >
> >     Thanks for your feedback.
> >     We recently had Zanata survey and going to evaluate it in
> >     G11N FAD happening from tomorrow. Will discuss on your
> >     feedback as well, hoping someone will quickly give you reply
> >     here as well.
> >
> >     I think we need to organize open Zanata testing day as well
> >     for Fedora.
> >
> >
> >
> >         Programming is not my profession, I'll be pleased to be
> >         advice and help.
> >         If something better exists, I'm also interested.
> >
> >
> >     Excellent. Indeed we are looking more people who can use and
> >     provide active feedback on improvement of Fedora project.
> >     Feel free to join meeting and as you did keep on posting
> >     issues here :)
> >
> >     Regards,
> >     Pravin Satpute
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     g11n mailing list
> >     [e-mail]
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >     https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Alex Eng
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > g11n mailing list
> > [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n
> >
> >
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> > [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans
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>
>
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>
>
>
>
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On 31 October 2015 at 10:12, Leap Sok  wrote:
> Hello Fedora Trans Team(s),
>
> This is Leap SOK, I am working with the Cambodian Fedora team this
> weekend to localize the Fedora to Khmer language.
>
> This is my FAS account: Leapsok

Welcome Leap Sok for Fedora project. :)
We used to have weekly meeting. On Wed 04:30 UTC and 06:00 UTC. Feel free
to raise issue there or directly asking query on
[e-mail]

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

On 31 October 2015 at 19:13, [e-mail] 
wrote:
> On 31 October 2015 at 10:12, Leap Sok  wrote:
> > Hello Fedora Trans Team(s),
> >
> > This is Leap SOK, I am working with the Cambodian Fedora team this
> > weekend to localize the Fedora to Khmer language.
> >
> > This is my FAS account: Leapsok
>
> Welcome Leap Sok for Fedora project. :)
> We used to have weekly meeting. On Wed 04:30 UTC and 06:00 UTC. Feel free
> to raise issue there or directly asking query on
> [e-mail]

Ask queries on [e-mail]

-
Pravin

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