Move to Zanata Stage 1 - fedora.zanata instance available now!

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Hi translators

It is now new instance of https://fedora.zanata.org/ available.
Please proceed and start logging in new instance. Be aware that fedora
infra does not allow zanata to send mail, thus please use your true mail
address (aka not fp.o address) in step4. This is one time process.

1. Go to the URL above, and click 'Log In'
2. Enter FAS username and password
3. You will be moved to authentication window, click approve
4. You will be moved 'new user' window of Zanata, enter full-name,
username (FAS username) and mail-address
* This is one time process. Here 'mail-address', please use true address
not username.fedoraproject.org. Otherwise you will not be able to
receive any notification from Zanata, including activation mail.
5. Click save, then activation mail will be sent to your true address.
6. Go to the link provided in the activation mail, and log in using FAS
username and password

Zanata team, Piotr and noriko will ensure existing coordinator to be
appropriate team coordinator on new instance.
Then each language team coordinator will approve their team members.

Okay, let's move!

noriko

[Tiansworld]

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  Hi translators
>
>  It is now new instance of https://fedora.zanata.org/ available.
>  Please proceed and start logging in new instance. Be aware that fedora
>  infra does not allow zanata to send mail, thus please use your true mail
>  address (aka not fp.o address) in step4. This is one time process.
>
>  Is it possible to use fp.o mail address in future? 

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Regards,

Tiansworld
Fedora Project Contributor

[Игорь Горбунов]

Hm,
there are no one on fedora.zanata.org - no projects, no groups...

Best wishes,
    Igor Gorbounov

2014-11-07 14:58 GMT+03:00 tiansworld <tiansworld(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Noriko Mizumoto
> <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org
>  > wrote:
>
> > Hi translators
> >
> > It is now new instance of https://fedora.zanata.org/ available.
> > Please proceed and start logging in new instance. Be aware that fedora
> > infra does not allow zanata to send mail, thus please use your true mail
> > address (aka not fp.o address) in step4. This is one time process.
> >
> > Is it possible to use fp.o mail address in future?
>
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>
>  Tiansworld
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[Carlos Munoz]

Hi Igor,

Migration of existing projects will start to happen gradually in the
coming weeks.

Regards,

Carlos A. Munoz
Software Engineering Supervisor
Engineering - Internationalization
Red Hat

On 11/09/2014 03:23 AM, Игорь Горбунов wrote:
>  Hm,
>  there are no one on fedora.zanata.org <http://fedora.zanata.org> - no
>  projects, no groups...
>  
>  Best wishes,
>      Igor Gorbounov
>  
>  2014-11-07 14:58 GMT+03:00 tiansworld <tiansworld(a)fedoraproject.org
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>>:
>  
>      On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Noriko Mizumoto
>      <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>  
>          Hi translators
>  
>          It is now new instance of https://fedora.zanata.org/ available.
>          Please proceed and start logging in new instance. Be aware that
>          fedora
>          infra does not allow zanata to send mail, thus please use your
>          true mail
>          address (aka not fp.o address) in step4. This is one time process.
>  
>      Is it possible to use fp.o mail address in future?
>       
>  
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>      Regards,
>  
>      Tiansworld
>      Fedora Project Contributor
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[Ding Yi Chen]

----- Original Message -----

>  Hm,
>  there are no one on fedora.zanata.org - no projects, no groups... 
You should at least see IBus Chewing there. 
And you can also upload your projects. 

Group is not a requirement for translator, 
it does help for release engineers and l10n managers to have overview 
of translation progress. 

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DID: [phone] 
Email: dchen(a)redhat.com 

Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd 
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[Noriko Mizumoto]

(2014年11月11日 10:00), Ding Yi Chen wrote:
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>      Hm,
>      there are no one on fedora.zanata.org <http://fedora.zanata.org> -
>      no projects, no groups...
>
>
>  You should at least see IBus Chewing there.
>  And you can also upload your projects. 
First all translators are expected to migrate into fedora.zanata.org.
Secondly, after f21 GA, the projects and data are migrated (Dec - Feb).
Please see 'L10N Move To Zanata' page.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata#Move_To_Zanata_Schedul...

noriko

>  Group is not a requirement for translator,
>  it does help for release engineers and l10n managers to have overview
>  of translation progress.
>
>  --
>  Ding-Yi Chen
>  Software Engineer
>  Internationalization Group
>  DID: [phone]
>  Email: dchen(a)redhat.com
>
>  Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd
>  Level 1, 193 North Quay
>  Brisbane 4000
>  Office: [phone]
>  Fax: [phone]
>  Website: www.redhat.com
>
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[Tiansworld]

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  (2014年11月11日 10:00), Ding Yi Chen wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >     Hm,
> >     there are no one on fedora.zanata.org <http://fedora.zanata.org> -
> >     no projects, no groups...
> >
> >
> > You should at least see IBus Chewing there.
> > And you can also upload your projects.
> >
>
>  First all translators are expected to migrate into fedora.zanata.org.
>  Secondly, after f21 GA, the projects and data are migrated (Dec - Feb).
>  Please see 'L10N Move To Zanata' page.
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata#Move_
>  To_Zanata_Schedule_Plan
>
>  noriko
>
> >
> > 
Hi Noriko

If projects are migrated, then people especially the new translators should
have a basic guide. Is there already a new guide under drafting or not?

I would like to help on the basic contents as long as I have time.

If there is not a new guide, then what about rewrite this page[1]? I think
it will be easier to draft base on the outlines there.


[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide

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Regards,

Tiansworld
Fedora Project Contributor

[Ding Yi Chen]

----- Original Message -----

>  Hi Noriko 
>  If projects are migrated, then people especially the new translators
> should
>  have a basic guide. Is there already a new guide under drafting or not? 
>  I would like to help on the basic contents as long as I have time.
>  If there is not a new guide, then what about rewrite this page[1]? I
> think it
>  will be easier to draft base on the outlines there. 
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide 
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The general help to Zanata
itself is on http://zanata.org/ 
For Translators, usually Section "Getting start" is sufficient. 

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Software Engineer 
Internationalization Group 
DID: [phone] 
Email: dchen(a)redhat.com 

Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd 
Level 1, 193 North Quay 
Brisbane 4000 
Office: [phone] 
Fax: [phone] 
Website: www.redhat.com 

Red Hat, Inc. 
Facebook: Red Hat APAC | Red Hat Japan | Red Hat Korea | JBoss APAC 
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[Noriko Mizumoto]

Hi Tiansworld

(2014年11月12日 10:43), Ding Yi Chen wrote:
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>      Hi Noriko
>
>      If projects are migrated, then people especially the new translators
>      should have a basic guide. Is there already a new guide under
>      drafting or not? 
I feel exactly same, thank you for raising this!

>      I would like to help on the basic contents as long as I have time. 
Thanks a lot! It is very much appreciated!

>      If there is not a new guide, then what about rewrite this page[1]? I
>      think it will be easier to draft base on the outlines there.
>
>
>      [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide 
This is good idea, while there is another option I can think of, that is 
to rewrite our old TQSG [1]. I don't mind either way, please proceed the 
way you feel comfortable.

Also we may reuse the following documents pointed by Ding-Yi as 
reference, so that we can avoid to repeat same steps?

What you think?

<snip>

>  The general help to Zanata itself is on http://zanata.org/
>  For Translators, usually Section "Getting start" is sufficient. 
Thanks Ding-Yi,
This is very good resource for us. There might someone from Fedora 
translators who may be interested in contributing zanata documentation 
as well.

[1]:http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Contributor_Documentation/1...

noriko

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>  Internationalization Group
>  DID: [phone]
>  Email: dchen(a)redhat.com
>
>  Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd
>  Level 1, 193 North Quay
>  Brisbane 4000
>  Office: [phone]
>  Fax: [phone]
>  Website: www.redhat.com
>
>  Red Hat, Inc.
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>  Twitter: Red Hat APAC | Red Hat ANZ
>  LinkedIn: Red Hat APAC | JBoss APAC

[Ding Yi Chen]

----- Original Message -----

>  On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Noriko Mizumoto <
> noriko(a)fedoraproject.org >
>  wrote: 
>  > Hi translators
>   
>  > It is now new instance of https://fedora.zanata.org/ available.
>  
>  > Please proceed and start logging in new instance. Be aware that fedora
>  
>  > infra does not allow zanata to send mail, thus please use your true mail
>  
>  > address (aka not fp.o address) in step4. This is one time process.
>   
>  Is it possible to use fp.o mail address in future? 
Zanata, like any other web services that use e-mail authentication, 
require a working email. 

fp.o email addresses, however, are not working for most people. 
You can try mail to your fp.o email address, if it successfully receive email, 
you can of course use it. 

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Software Engineer 
Internationalization Group 
DID: [phone] 
Email: dchen(a)redhat.com 

Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd 
Level 1, 193 North Quay 
Brisbane 4000 
Office: [phone] 
Fax: [phone] 
Website: www.redhat.com 

Red Hat, Inc. 
Facebook: Red Hat APAC | Red Hat Japan | Red Hat Korea | JBoss APAC 
Twitter: Red Hat APAC | Red Hat ANZ 
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[Göran Uddeborg]

Noriko Mizumoto:
>  6. Go to the link provided in the activation mail, and log in using
> FAS
>  username and password 
Due to network problems on my end, I didn't receive the activation
mail until 24 hours had passed.  When I click the link, it tells me to
sign in and re-send the email.

When I log in I get passed over to id.fedoraproject.org, where I log
in and approve the authorization.  Then I get directed back to
fedora.zanata.org, but I'm apparently still not logged in.  I still
have a "Log In" button.

So what do I do now?

FAS account "goeran".

[Carlos Munoz]

Hi Goran,

Yes, Zanata will force you to resend the email if more than 24 hours have passed since it
was originally sent. I just checked the system and your account has already been enabled.
Could you please try signing in again?

Regards,

Carlos A. Munoz
Software Engineering Supervisor
Engineering - Internationalization
Red Hat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Göran Uddeborg" <goeran(a)uddeborg.se&gt;
To: noriko(a)fedoraproject.org, "Fedora Translation Project List"
<trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:22:25 AM
Subject: Move to Zanata Stage 1 - fedora.zanata instance available now!

Noriko Mizumoto:
>  6. Go to the link provided in the activation mail, and log in using
> FAS
>  username and password 
Due to network problems on my end, I didn't receive the activation
mail until 24 hours had passed.  When I click the link, it tells me to
sign in and re-send the email.

When I log in I get passed over to id.fedoraproject.org, where I log
in and approve the authorization.  Then I get directed back to
fedora.zanata.org, but I'm apparently still not logged in.  I still
have a "Log In" button.

So what do I do now?

FAS account "goeran".
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[Göran Uddeborg]

Carlos Munoz:
>  I just checked the system and your account has already been
>  enabled. Could you please try signing in again? 
This time it worked!  I could log in, and have applied to join my
team.

Does this mean that I've done what's needed, despite no second
confirmation email?  Or is there still something that needs to be done
with my account?

>  FAS account "goeran".

[Carlos Munoz]

That's all you need for now. You just need to wait for your team coordinator(s) to
approve your request to join.

Carlos A. Munoz
Software Engineering Supervisor
Engineering - Internationalization
Red Hat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Göran Uddeborg" <goeran(a)uddeborg.se&gt;
To: "Fedora Translation Project List" <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
Cc: noriko(a)fedoraproject.org
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:32:36 AM
Subject: Re: Move to Zanata Stage 1 - fedora.zanata instance available now!

Carlos Munoz:
>  I just checked the system and your account has already been
>  enabled. Could you please try signing in again? 
This time it worked!  I could log in, and have applied to join my
team.

Does this mean that I've done what's needed, despite no second
confirmation email?  Or is there still something that needs to be done
with my account?

>  FAS account "goeran". 
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