Wiki translation issue

[Zdenek Chmelar]

Hello all

I am translating Fedora Wiki and I probably messed up with the language template somehow
in case of the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Magazine_Team/cs because it
offers English only but not Czech language. The same is valid for English version
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Magazine_Team

If I edit the language template, "cs" is listed next to "en" so both
languages should be visible on the wiki page but that's not true.
Not sure what caused this issue, maybe I accidentally moved the order of some page(s) so
they are not properly interlinked between each other now....?

Thanks for any help or hint to fix it.

[Jean-Baptiste Holcroft]

Le 15/03/2018 à 14:53, Zdenek Chmelar a écrit :
>  Hello all
>
>  I am translating Fedora Wiki and I probably messed up with the language template somehow
> in case of the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Magazine_Team/cs because it
> offers English only but not Czech language. The same is valid for English version
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Magazine_Team
>
>  If I edit the language template, "cs" is listed next to "en" so both
> languages should be visible on the wiki page but that's not true.
>  Not sure what caused this issue, maybe I accidentally moved the order of some page(s) so
> they are not properly interlinked between each other now....?
>
>  Thanks for any help or hint to fix it.
>  _______________________________________________
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Hi,

the process is described there: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki:Translating


On the source page:  add {{autolang|base=yes}} on top, and save.

Edit again the page, you'll see a new template named: "Lang/source 
page", edit it.

For your page : 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Lang/Magazine/Magazine_Team

Add every languages code with translation. Here : 'cs'.

Go in the translated page and add {{autolang}}


Theoretically, not a single page should use the "Lang" template itself.


Have a nice day

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

[zdenek]

Hello Jean-Baptiste

Thanks a lot for your feedback. This procedure is actually what I normally
follow but I do not know what I did in this case.
I was able to fix the Czech page as well now (removing the {{autolang}} and
adding it back again from "Lang/source page".

Thanks again.
Z.

On 15 March 2018 at 15:07, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr
>  wrote: 
>  Le 15/03/2018 à 14:53, Zdenek Chmelar a écrit :
>
> > Hello all
> >
> > I am translating Fedora Wiki and I probably messed up with the language
> > template somehow in case of the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
> > /Magazine/Magazine_Team/cs because it offers English only but not Czech
> > language. The same is valid for English version
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Magazine_Team
> >
> > If I edit the language template, "cs" is listed next to "en" so
> both
> > languages should be visible on the wiki page but that's not true.
> > Not sure what caused this issue, maybe I accidentally moved the order of
> > some page(s) so they are not properly interlinked between each other
> > now....?
> >
> > Thanks for any help or hint to fix it.
> > _______________________________________________
> > trans mailing list -- trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >
>
>  Hi,
>
>  the process is described there: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
>  /Fedora_Project_Wiki:Translating
>
>
>  On the source page:  add {{autolang|base=yes}} on top, and save.
>
>  Edit again the page, you'll see a new template named: "Lang/source page",
>  edit it.
>
>  For your page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
>  /Template:Lang/Magazine/Magazine_Team
>
>  Add every languages code with translation. Here : 'cs'.
>
>  Go in the translated page and add {{autolang}}
>
>
>  Theoretically, not a single page should use the "Lang" template itself.
>
>
>  Have a nice day
>
>  --
>  Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
>
>  _______________________________________________
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>

[Jean-Baptiste Holcroft]

Le 15/03/2018 à 16:28, zdenek a écrit :
>  Hello Jean-Baptiste
>
>  Thanks a lot for your feedback. This procedure is actually what I 
>  normally follow but I do not know what I did in this case. 
I had a second thought
at this issue, and I think it may be related to 
the fact it is the translation of a two level page name : 
"Magazine/Magazine_Team"

The automatic link only includes Magazine, which means the Template 
don't know how to hangle the subpage part "Magazine Team".

Can you check if you can reproduce the bug with other pages?

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

[zdenek]

I saw this as well. It confused me and that's why I thought I had messed up
the page level order.
The discrepancy I see on "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/
*Magazine/Magazine_Team*":
*1)* If I hover the mouse over the "English (en)" of the language box, the
web browser shows the path: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki*/Magazine_Team*"
*2)* But if I open (via edit) the language box on this wiki page, the page
hierarchy is defined as "{{lang|cs|en|page=*Magazine/Magazine Team*}}"

Based on the language box definition, I would expect the mouse hovering
should show "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki*/Magazine/Magazine_Team*"
instead.

Similar page structure (two level) is in case of "
*Account_System/NewAccount*" (
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Account_System/NewAccount)
In this case:
*1) *Mouse hover above "English (en)" shows
"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/
*Account_System/NewAccount/en*"
*2)* The language box contains "{{lang|cs|bg|en|...|zh-tw| page=*Account
System/NewAccount*}}"

Well both points are equal and all works well on this page.

Another example of multilevel wiki page is
*Infrastructure/AccountSystem/DownloadCert* (
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem/DownloadCert).
Again mouse hover link as well as language box are equal.

So it seems only Magazine/Magazine_Team is corrupted.

Additional issues I see on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Magazine_Team
*a)* A french language is added in the language box but if you edit the
box, the French language is missing
*b)* If you click on "English (en)", the EN language stays as a link (e.g.
it does not change to bold letters without link as it is done in case of
active language)


On 15 March 2018 at 23:58, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr
>  wrote: 
>  Le 15/03/2018 à 16:28, zdenek a écrit :
>
> > Hello Jean-Baptiste
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your feedback. This procedure is actually what I
> > normally follow but I do not know what I did in this case.
> >
>  I had a second thought at this issue, and I think it may be related to the
>  fact it is the translation of a two level page name :
>  "Magazine/Magazine_Team"
>
>  The automatic link only includes Magazine, which means the Template don't
>  know how to hangle the subpage part "Magazine Team".
>
>  Can you check if you can reproduce the bug with other pages?
>
>
>  --
>  Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
>  _______________________________________________
>  trans mailing list -- trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  To unsubscribe send an email to trans-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>

[zdenek]

Another test I did:
Both links below
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Magazine_Team
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine_Team

open "Magazine/Magazine_Team" wiki page.

I would expect that the second link should not work and I should get
message that the page does not exist

Could it be there are 2 wiki pages having different web link but the same
content (and the language box is "confused")?


Wiki page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine, section "Magazine
Contributors" - link provided there leads to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine_Team - is that mistake or correct?
(the link works with or without "/Magazine" anyway)

Wiki page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine, section "Administering
the Magazine" - link provided there leads to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Admin (e.g. link includes
"/Magazine").
If I remove "/Magazine", link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Admin leads
nowhere which is expected. (Wiki
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Admin works without any issue)

On 16 March 2018 at 23:25, zdenek <chmelarz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  I saw this as well. It confused me and that's why I thought I had
> messed
>  up the page level order.
>  The discrepancy I see on "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/
>  *Magazine/Magazine_Team*":
>  *1)* If I hover the mouse over the "English (en)" of the language box,
>  the web browser shows the path: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
>  */Magazine_Team*"
>  *2)* But if I open (via edit) the language box on this wiki page, the
>  page hierarchy is defined as "{{lang|cs|en|page=*Magazine/Magazine Team*
>  }}"
>
>  Based on the language box definition, I would expect the mouse hovering
>  should show "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki*/Magazine/Magazine_Team*"
>  instead.
>
>  Similar page structure (two level) is in case of "
>  *Account_System/NewAccount*" (https://fedoraproject.org/
>  wiki/Account_System/NewAccount)
>  In this case:
>  *1) *Mouse hover above "English (en)" shows "https://fedoraproject.org/
>  wiki/*Account_System/NewAccount/en*"
>  *2)* The language box contains "{{lang|cs|bg|en|...|zh-tw| page=*Account
>  System/NewAccount*}}"
>
>  Well both points are equal and all works well on this page.
>
>  Another example of multilevel wiki page is
>  *Infrastructure/AccountSystem/DownloadCert* (https://fedoraproject.org/
>  wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem/DownloadCert). Again mouse hover link
>  as well as language box are equal.
>
>  So it seems only Magazine/Magazine_Team is corrupted.
>
>  Additional issues I see on https://fedoraproject.org/
>  wiki/Magazine/Magazine_Team
>  *a)* A french language is added in the language box but if you edit the
>  box, the French language is missing
>  *b)* If you click on "English (en)", the EN language stays as a link
>  (e.g. it does not change to bold letters without link as it is done in case
>  of active language)
>
>
>  On 15 March 2018 at 23:58, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <
>  jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr&gt; wrote:
>
> > Le 15/03/2018 à 16:28, zdenek a écrit :
> >
> >> Hello Jean-Baptiste
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot for your feedback. This procedure is actually what I
> >> normally follow but I do not know what I did in this case.
> >>
> > I had a second thought at this issue, and I think it may be related to
> > the fact it is the translation of a two level page name :
> > "Magazine/Magazine_Team"
> >
> > The automatic link only includes Magazine, which means the Template don't
> > know how to hangle the subpage part "Magazine Team".
> >
> > Can you check if you can reproduce the bug with other pages?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
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