Translation CVS Commit 'cvsl10n' Group

[Misha Shnurapet]

Hi.

Is the 'cvsl10n' group membership still necessary? I keep receiving sponsorship
requests, but I can't remember any activity requiring it.

-- 
misha #fedora-l10n
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Shnurapet

[Dimitris Glezos]

It's not necessary for translators, no. We're not using it for
translations themselves.

We might be using it to manage the owners.list for bugzilla.. which,
in turn, isn't used (much) either. It's probable we could remove it
altogether, but I might be missing something.

-d

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Misha Shnurapet
<shnurapet(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Hi.
>
>  Is the 'cvsl10n' group membership still necessary? I keep receiving sponsorship
> requests, but I can't remember any activity requiring it.
>
>  --
>  misha #fedora-l10n
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Shnurapet
>  --
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>  trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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-- 
Dimitris Glezos
Founder & CEO, Transifex
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[Domingo Becker]

2013/7/25 Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)transifex.com&gt;:
>  It's not necessary for translators, no. We're not using it
> for
>  translations themselves.
>
>  We might be using it to manage the owners.list for bugzilla.. which,
>  in turn, isn't used (much) either. It's probable we could remove it
>  altogether, but I might be missing something.
>  
This issue was discussed in the past [1], and it looks like we still
need that group.

If you want to edit the wiki, you will need a fas account. That
account should belong to a group for administrative purposes.

The language maintainer should sponsor new members for his/her team,
to ease the job of admin guys.

There are other tasks like publishing content to docs.fp.o, that needs
a fas account. But for this case, we have the guide maintainer in
charge of the publishing task. In the past, language maintainer or
comaintainer used to publish translated version of the guides to
docs.fp.o.

The owners.list file may be managed by FLSC members. That file is in a
git repository and the account will need write access to it.

In summary, we need the cvsl10n group for language maintainers and
comaintainers, and we don't need it for translations. If some member
would want to do something more than translation, he/she will need a
fas account member of that group.

The name of the group looks outdated. Its meaning is 'access to a cvs
repository to work on l10n', the old workflow for translations in
Fedora. Perhaps the group's name should be trans. But renaming a linux
group is not easy, because of the scripts actually using it.

My two cents.

kind regards

Domingo Becker

[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2012-July/010069.html

[Pete Travis]

On Jul 25, 2013 7:17 AM, "Domingo Becker" <domingobecker(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:
...
>  There are other tasks like publishing content to docs.fp.o, that needs
>  a fas account. But for this case, we have the guide maintainer in
>  charge of the publishing task. In the past, language maintainer or
>  comaintainer used to publish translated version of the guides to
>  docs.fp.o.
>  
Speaking for myself, I appreciate when a language team takes the initiative
to publish their work on Fedora guides.  Many guide owners probably feel
the same way.  I've sponsored several people to docs-publishers for this
reason, and would do so again - with the expected caveats regarding careful
exercise of responsibility, build testing, and the like.

--Pete

[Máté Gelei]

Hello,

not sure, but if I recall correctly, having an email alias requires a
non-CLA group membership. So if I'm correct, having an l10n FAS group
wouldn't be bad.

Máté


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Misha Shnurapet <
shnurapet(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:

>  Hi.
>
>  Is the 'cvsl10n' group membership still necessary? I keep receiving
>  sponsorship requests, but I can't remember any activity requiring it.
>
>  --
>  misha #fedora-l10n
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Shnurapet
>  --
>  trans mailing list
>  trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans