Hello to all,
I am still thinking about the state of the repositories in the fedora-l10n namespace on the pagure.io.[1] It's not that there is basically something wrong with them, but IMHO there is a danger of single-point-of-contact failure. When I realize the users with a commit access or higher are: * jibecfed (maintainer of all repositories) * asamalik * weblatebot * darknao * copperi * yaron (commit for kde)
I recall when Jean-Baptiste, for example, once answered to mattdm that he didn't have time to maintain fedora-l10n/doc repository (while I think he is, in case of an urgent need, able to help with weblate's things.) asamalik is propably not more there, too. Nowadays, more or less all lays on the shoulders of darknao. And copperi is hopefully able to put some hands on as well.
In this thread could we somewhat reconsider how to better organize (us) around these repositories?
Would it be possible to have among the users of the repositories an account that is linked to the fedora-infra team, for example with the admin role? (I am deeply sorry for expecting all of you would have gone from the l10n matters...) Personally, I'd like to see a moment when we have "a backup of a backup".
We could also reconsider if to maintain the fedora- l10n/tickets repository. We could have it as a part of fedora-l10n/docs, if we use tags for issues...?
Do you have anything to propose, comment or your view in this regard?
A little similar situation is with the weblate administration. By going throught this mail list I learned that the weblate admins are: * Jean-Baptiste * Piotr * Yuri * (and perhaps again) darknao
Does this group needs some update, too?
I have some more things to ask or propose, but let's see if we are able to come to some conclusions in these two things.
Regards,
Josef
PS.: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I have commit access only to docs, should add a group access to other repos as well and someone active able to add members to that group.
copperi
________________________________ From: peartown hrusjos@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 4:40 PM To: trans@lists.fedoraproject.org trans@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: l10n repositories in pagure.io
Hello to all,
I am still thinking about the state of the repositories in the fedora-l10n namespace on the pagure.io.[1] It's not that there is basically something wrong with them, but IMHO there is a danger of single-point-of-contact failure. When I realize the users with a commit access or higher are: * jibecfed (maintainer of all repositories) * asamalik * weblatebot * darknao * copperi * yaron (commit for kde)
I recall when Jean-Baptiste, for example, once answered to mattdm that he didn't have time to maintain fedora-l10n/doc repository (while I think he is, in case of an urgent need, able to help with weblate's things.) asamalik is propably not more there, too. Nowadays, more or less all lays on the shoulders of darknao. And copperi is hopefully able to put some hands on as well.
In this thread could we somewhat reconsider how to better organize (us) around these repositories?
Would it be possible to have among the users of the repositories an account that is linked to the fedora-infra team, for example with the admin role? (I am deeply sorry for expecting all of you would have gone from the l10n matters...) Personally, I'd like to see a moment when we have "a backup of a backup".
We could also reconsider if to maintain the fedora- l10n/tickets repository. We could have it as a part of fedora-l10n/docs, if we use tags for issues...?
Do you have anything to propose, comment or your view in this regard?
A little similar situation is with the weblate administration. By going throught this mail list I learned that the weblate admins are: * Jean-Baptiste * Piotr * Yuri * (and perhaps again) darknao
Does this group needs some update, too?
I have some more things to ask or propose, but let's see if we are able to come to some conclusions in these two things.
Regards,
Josef
PS.: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
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четвер, 15 грудня 2022 р. 16:40:55 EET peartown написано:
A little similar situation is with the weblate administration. By going throught this mail list I learned that the weblate admins are:
- Jean-Baptiste
- Piotr
- Yuri
Hi,
Yes. That's true even if I cannot be active all days due to the power shortages now. But I will try to help if you have troubles with administration of you projects.
Best regards, Yuri
hello, thanks for sharing this, but as far as I know, there is low risk here.
if something happen for doc generation, darknao and I can do it. Adam Samalik did great work here, I simply finalized it with help of darknao.
if something happen on weblate admin, yuri, piotr and I can do it too. I think darknao gave it a try too, mot sure he wants to invest on this though. Also, each project owner om weblate can change the configuration of its project. (weblate is a great tool) Also,we have no maintenance to do because the Fedora project pays weblate company to do the maintenance, and the job is perfectly done.
on pagure, most l10n repositories are translation storage for big automation systems. Moving it to gitlab were considered as a useless effort.
our team doc and tickets repository is lacking maintenance as much as our group lacks involvement of a coordinator. No big deal here, localization in a project like Fedora is really decentralized. At some moment, someone will take the lead. And if access right start to be an issue, we'll fix it.
to me, all important subjects have backups, and tools are designed to run on their own, language enthusiasts can work wherever they feel like, as individuals or as structured teams
hope it helps, -- Jean-Baptiste
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