Transifex 0.8 Magneto -- woohoo!

[Dimitris Glezos]

Yup. It's out! Transifex 0.8, codenamed Magneto, is out on the street. Yeehaa!!

  http://docs.transifex.org/releases/0.8.html

This is definitely one of our best releases yet. Packed with exciting
new features, and lots of love. Here's a glimpse of the new stuff:

- Translation Teams
- Translation Reviews
- Timeline & history
- Project Releases and Removal of Collections
- Weekly notification for maintainers
- Subversion over secure HTTP (https)
- Lotte support for plurals, msgctxt, filtering, searching and more!
- Nudges between users
- Notifications for permission requests

This release includes more than 510 changesets and close to 100
tickets resolved. Magneto is the release with the most contributors,
the most languages, the most changesets (almost 60% more than the
previous 0.7) and the biggest impact. Here's the raw diffstat:

   438 files changed, 114680 insertions(+), 46081 deletions(-)

A big THANK YOU goes to the people who made this release possible:
code contributors, translators, and everyone who has helped in one way
or another. Special thanks to the Moblin Project and XFCE for their
contributions.

  http://docs.transifex.org/releases/0.8.html#contributors

Please report any bugs at http://trac.transifex.org/.

This has been a great journey. Expect even greater things with 0.9. A
plugin system, a new core engine... can't wait to start hacking on it.

Enjoy! Let a thousand languages bloom!

-d


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Dimitris Glezos

Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

[Kris Thomsen]

Do you know when we get an updated Transifex in Fedora? We run a
rather old version now.

// Kris

2010/3/3 Dimitris Glezos <glezos(a)indifex.com&gt;:
>  Yup. It's out! Transifex 0.8, codenamed Magneto, is out on the
> street. Yeehaa!!
>
>   http://docs.transifex.org/releases/0.8.html
>
>  This is definitely one of our best releases yet. Packed with exciting
>  new features, and lots of love. Here's a glimpse of the new stuff:
>
>  - Translation Teams
>  - Translation Reviews
>  - Timeline & history
>  - Project Releases and Removal of Collections
>  - Weekly notification for maintainers
>  - Subversion over secure HTTP (https)
>  - Lotte support for plurals, msgctxt, filtering, searching and more!
>  - Nudges between users
>  - Notifications for permission requests
>
>  This release includes more than 510 changesets and close to 100
>  tickets resolved. Magneto is the release with the most contributors,
>  the most languages, the most changesets (almost 60% more than the
>  previous 0.7) and the biggest impact. Here's the raw diffstat:
>
>    438 files changed, 114680 insertions(+), 46081 deletions(-)
>
>  A big THANK YOU goes to the people who made this release possible:
>  code contributors, translators, and everyone who has helped in one way
>  or another. Special thanks to the Moblin Project and XFCE for their
>  contributions.
>
>   http://docs.transifex.org/releases/0.8.html#contributors
>
>  Please report any bugs at http://trac.transifex.org/.
>
>  This has been a great journey. Expect even greater things with 0.9. A
>  plugin system, a new core engine... can't wait to start hacking on it.
>
>  Enjoy! Let a thousand languages bloom!
>
>  -d
>
>
>  --
>  Dimitris Glezos
>
>  Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
>  http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/
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>

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:22:39AM +0100, Kris Thomsen wrote:
>  Do you know when we get an updated Transifex in Fedora? We run a
>  rather old version now. 
As reported previously:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1455

Transifex 0.7.4 is coming.  It's currently staged and in testing right
now, and other threads on this list have reported overall things work
well, although there are some bugs that have been reported.  The
Fedora infrastructure is in a freeze mode until the F13 Alpha release,
after which it should be possible to bring the upgrade into production
assuming none of the bugs are blockers.

It would be good for the FLSCo to round up those bugs from the list,
and determine that (1) they've been reported properly, and (2) whether
any are truly blockers.  That would help the Infrastructure team make
the call to go to production.

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[Dimitris Glezos]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:22:39AM +0100, Kris Thomsen wrote:
>  > Do you know when we get an updated Transifex in Fedora? We run a
>  > rather old version now.
>
>  As reported previously:
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1455
>
>  Transifex 0.7.4 is coming.  It's currently staged and in testing right
>  now, and other threads on this list have reported overall things work
>  well, although there are some bugs that have been reported.
>
>   The
>  Fedora infrastructure is in a freeze mode until the F13 Alpha release,
>  after which it should be possible to bring the upgrade into production
>  assuming none of the bugs are blockers. 
Now that 0.8 is out, I think it'd be much much better to upgrade
directly to 0.8 We tried hard to release early to make it in time for
the Alpha freeze ending, so we could consider jumping to it.

Just an idea. =)

-d


>  It would be good for the FLSCo to round up those bugs from the list,
>  and determine that (1) they've been reported properly, and (2) whether
>  any are truly blockers.  That would help the Infrastructure team make
>  the call to go to production. 



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http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

[Piotr Drąg]

W dniu 03.03.2010 16:46, Dimitris Glezos pisze:
>  Now that 0.8 is out, I think it'd be much much better to upgrade
>  directly to 0.8 We tried hard to release early to make it in time for
>  the Alpha freeze ending, so we could consider jumping to it.
>  
I've heard from you that 0.8 teams feature might not work very well for
Fedora and it's advised to skip it and update to 0.9 when it comes
instead. Is that still a valid point?

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[Dimitris Glezos]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Piotr Drąg <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  W dniu 03.03.2010 16:46, Dimitris Glezos pisze:
> > Now that 0.8 is out, I think it'd be much much better to upgrade
> > directly to 0.8 We tried hard to release early to make it in time for
> > the Alpha freeze ending, so we could consider jumping to it.
> >
>
>  I've heard from you that 0.8 teams feature might not work very well for
>  Fedora and it's advised to skip it and update to 0.9 when it comes
>  instead. Is that still a valid point? 
Correct -- we could just choose not to use Teams in Fedora, since they
are per-project.

-d


-- 
Dimitris Glezos

Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

[Piotr Drąg]

W dniu 03.03.2010 16:52, Dimitris Glezos pisze:
>  Correct -- we could just choose not to use Teams in Fedora, since
> they
>  are per-project.
>  
If it can be disabled for our instance, then I'm all about updating to
0.8. It has many advantages and such, it's really a great release. I'm
just worried if it would slow down the process of update. Is it possible
to update stg.t.fp.o to 0.8 ASAP? We could use the time before freeze
ends to test it.

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http://raven.pmail.pl

[Dimitris Glezos]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Piotr Drąg <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  W dniu 03.03.2010 16:52, Dimitris Glezos pisze:
> > Correct -- we could just choose not to use Teams in Fedora, since they
> > are per-project.
> >
>
>  If it can be disabled for our instance, then I'm all about updating to
>  0.8. 
I suppose we can simply remove the related Teams Tab from the UI.

>  It has many advantages and such, it's really a great release.
> I'm
>  just worried if it would slow down the process of update. Is it possible
>  to update stg.t.fp.o to 0.8 ASAP? We could use the time before freeze
>  ends to test it. 
Yeah, the whole upgrade/testing process has been a bit painful so far.
I'm not sure exactly who should we ask to lead this or how we could
play around with the templates etc.

-d



-- 
Dimitris Glezos

Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 06:03:46PM +0200, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
>  On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Piotr Drąg
> <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > W dniu 03.03.2010 16:52, Dimitris Glezos pisze:
>  >> Correct -- we could just choose not to use Teams in Fedora, since they
>  >> are per-project.
>  >>
>  >
>  > If it can be disabled for our instance, then I'm all about updating to
>  > 0.8.
>  
>  I suppose we can simply remove the related Teams Tab from the UI.
>  
>  > It has many advantages and such, it's really a great release. I'm
>  > just worried if it would slow down the process of update. Is it possible
>  > to update stg.t.fp.o to 0.8 ASAP? We could use the time before freeze
>  > ends to test it.
>  
>  Yeah, the whole upgrade/testing process has been a bit painful so far.
>  I'm not sure exactly who should we ask to lead this or how we could
>  play around with the templates etc. 
If this throws a wrench into the process of just getting
translate.fp.o updated to a version that fixes current pain points, I
am not in favor of it.

It sounds like updating to 0.8 means we need to go back several steps.
That could hurt the deadlines for Fedora translators, correct?  If so,
it may be too late to embark on that course.

There's no reason we can't look at updating again after F13 release if
I'm correct.  But even in that case I would hesitate to talk about
another quick update unless the people who want it are ready to devote
cycles to the staging, testing, and other work required to put it in
place.

However, I'd like to hear from the L10N steering leaders, because the
L10N teams are the ones most affected by this.  The highest priority
is that we not further disturb the L10n schedule for F13.

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[Noriko Mizumoto]

Paul W. Frields さんは書きました:
>  On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 06:03:46PM +0200, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Piotr Drąg <piotrdrag(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >> W dniu 03.03.2010 16:52, Dimitris Glezos pisze:
> >>> Correct -- we could just choose not to use Teams in Fedora, since they
> >>> are per-project.
> >>>
> >> If it can be disabled for our instance, then I'm all about updating to
> >> 0.8.
> > I suppose we can simply remove the related Teams Tab from the UI.
> >
> >> It has many advantages and such, it's really a great release. I'm
> >> just worried if it would slow down the process of update. Is it possible
> >> to update stg.t.fp.o to 0.8 ASAP? We could use the time before freeze
> >> ends to test it.
> > Yeah, the whole upgrade/testing process has been a bit painful so far.
> > I'm not sure exactly who should we ask to lead this or how we could
> > play around with the templates etc.
>  
>  If this throws a wrench into the process of just getting
>  translate.fp.o updated to a version that fixes current pain points, I
>  am not in favor of it.
>  
>  It sounds like updating to 0.8 means we need to go back several steps.
>  That could hurt the deadlines for Fedora translators, correct?  If so,
>  it may be too late to embark on that course.
>  
>  There's no reason we can't look at updating again after F13 release if
>  I'm correct.  But even in that case I would hesitate to talk about
>  another quick update unless the people who want it are ready to devote
>  cycles to the staging, testing, and other work required to put it in
>  place.
>  
>  However, I'd like to hear from the L10N steering leaders, because the
>  L10N teams are the ones most affected by this.  The highest priority
>  is that we not further disturb the L10n schedule for F13. 
0.8 contains excellent features that I myself was amazed. It is exciting 
to have it in translate.fp.o. But as pointed already, the resource is in 
question. Besides 0.7.4 still looks very nice and works for us, plus we 
are almost there to roll-out to the production. Thus it looks preferable 
to me to go with 0.7.4 for F13 unless we see blocker.

noriko

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Paul W. Frields さんは書きました:
>  On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:22:39AM +0100, Kris Thomsen wrote:
> > Do you know when we get an updated Transifex in Fedora? We run a
> > rather old version now.
>  
>  As reported previously:
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1455
>  
>  Transifex 0.7.4 is coming.  It's currently staged and in testing right
>  now, and other threads on this list have reported overall things work
>  well, although there are some bugs that have been reported.  The
>  Fedora infrastructure is in a freeze mode until the F13 Alpha release,
>  after which it should be possible to bring the upgrade into production
>  assuming none of the bugs are blockers.
>  
>  It would be good for the FLSCo to round up those bugs from the list,
>  and determine that (1) they've been reported properly, and (2) whether
>  any are truly blockers.  That would help the Infrastructure team make
>  the call to go to production. 
I can see four bugs filed so far as below, two closed and two to go.
Anyone please advise in this list if any other bug missed out.

Transifex team,
Could anyone please have a look at those two bugs?

1)
"Some commits are refused by Tx, according to their contents"
http://trac.transifex.org/ticket/525
(was https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568914)
Status: Fixed in 0.8
[Workaround for 0.7.4]
* After copy&paste, pressing any key will change the color. Otherwise 
simply clicking submit button will save translation anyway.
2)
"Stat update takes four hours long"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568244
Status: New
3)
"Strings' occurrences are changed"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568253
Status: New
4)
"'Edit' button is missing for some files"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568255
Status: Closed-this is not bug

cheers
noriko

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Hi,

Anyone can reproduce to confirm this bug?
Or I am missing something...
>  2)
>  "Stat update takes four hours long"
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568244
>  Status: New 
noriko

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Yulia Poyarkova さんは書きました:
>  I had the same problem few days ago but quick test today resulted in
> "page not 
>  found" error.
>  
>  How to reproduce:
>  1) Dowload the *.po file
>  2) Modify the *.po file
>  3) While logged in, attempt to submit translation which results in "Page not 
>  found" error. 
Same here. clicking 'send' a file took me out of staging 
(translate.stg.fp.o) but to translate.fp.o and showed 'page not found'.

noriko

>  
>  Apologies for confusing things even more :/
>  
>  Yulia (ru)
>  
>  Noriko Mizumoto пишет:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Anyone can reproduce to confirm this bug?
> > Or I am missing something...
> >   
> >> 2)
> >> "Stat update takes four hours long"
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568244
> >> Status: New
> >>     
> >
> > noriko
> >
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>

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:58:02PM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>  Yulia Poyarkova さんは書きました:
>  > Noriko Mizumoto пишет:
>  >> Hi,
>  >>
>  >> Anyone can reproduce to confirm this bug?
>  >> Or I am missing something...
>  >>   
>  >>> 2)
>  >>> "Stat update takes four hours long"
>  >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568244
>  >>> Status: New
>  >>>     
>  >>
>  >> noriko
>  >>
>  > 
>  > I had the same problem few days ago but quick test today resulted in "page not
>
>  > found" error.
>  > 
>  > How to reproduce:
>  > 1) Dowload the *.po file
>  > 2) Modify the *.po file
>  > 3) While logged in, attempt to submit translation which results in "Page not 
>  > found" error.
>  
>  Same here. clicking 'send' a file took me out of staging 
>  (translate.stg.fp.o) but to translate.fp.o and showed 'page not found'. 
I have to admit, I don't know much about Transifex internals.  But is
it possible this is peculiar to the staging instance having a copy of
data from the canonical translate.fp.o?  I'm not sure.

Diego says the bug says this is fixed in 0.8.  If that's the case, can
the fix be backported without much work?


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