Inputs required for move to Transifex.net

[Runa Bhattacharjee]

Hello,
The Fedora Infrastructure team has proposed[1] to move the Fedora Translation
infrastructure to transifex.net. They would be discussing this further in
their next meeting and are looking for inputs from FLP members to fully
understand the implications of such a move. Please do let them know if you have
any feedback about the matter.

regards
Runa


[1] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2389#comment:58

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[Tian Shixiong]

>  Hello,
>  The Fedora Infrastructure team has proposed[1] to move the Fedora Translation
>  infrastructure to transifex.net. They would be discussing this further in
>  their next meeting and are looking for inputs from FLP members to fully
>  understand the implications of such a move. Please do let them know if you have
>  any feedback about the matter.
>
>  regards
>  Runa
>  
If the move is inevitable, I would hope that all the migration process
will be smoothly done.
It's worth to do if this is able to get the stability for us L10n guys.



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[Rui Gouveia]

Em 09-02-2011 15:09, tiansworld escreveu:
> > Hello,
> > The Fedora Infrastructure team has proposed[1] to move the Fedora Translation
> > infrastructure to transifex.net. They would be discussing this further in
> > their next meeting and are looking for inputs from FLP members to fully
> > understand the implications of such a move. Please do let them know if you have
> > any feedback about the matter.
> >  
> > regards
> > Runa
> >  
>  If the move is inevitable, I would hope that all the migration
> process
>  will be smoothly done.
>  It's worth to do if this is able to get the stability for us L10n guys.
>  
+1

>

[Piotr Drąg]

2011/2/9 Runa Bhattacharjee <runab(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  The Fedora Infrastructure team has proposed[1] to move the Fedora
> Translation
>  infrastructure to transifex.net. They would be discussing this further in
>  their next meeting and are looking for inputs from FLP members to fully
>  understand the implications of such a move. Please do let them know if you have
>  any feedback about the matter.
>  
I just want to make sure the team is aware of the fact that Transifex
1.0 version used on transifex.net does not change translators
workflow. It changes software maintainers workflow, drastically. It
pushes them to manually download and upload translations using tx
command line utility, which can be of course automated with make dist
and such.

http://help.transifex.net/user-guide/one-dot-zero.html

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[Dimitris Glezos]

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Runa Bhattacharjee <runab(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  The Fedora Infrastructure team has proposed[1] to move the Fedora
> Translation
>  infrastructure to transifex.net. They would be discussing this further in
>  their next meeting and are looking for inputs from FLP members to fully
>  understand the implications of such a move. Please do let them know if you have
>  any feedback about the matter. 
FYI -- the infrastructure part of the migration is being tracked on
the following ticket:

  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2605

-d


>  [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2389#comment:58 

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[Michael Hideo Smith]

On 02/09/2011 03:51 PM, Runa Bhattacharjee wrote:
>  Hello,
>  The Fedora Infrastructure team has proposed[1] to move the Fedora Translation
>  infrastructure to transifex.net. They would be discussing this further in
>  their next meeting and are looking for inputs from FLP members to fully
>  understand the implications of such a move. Please do let them know if you have
>  any feedback about the matter.
>  
What about the Fedora brand?

2007:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070930231417/http://translate.fedoraproject....

2011
https://translate.fedoraproject.org/

[Gianluca Sforna]

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Mike Hideo <mhideo(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 02/09/2011 03:51 PM, Runa Bhattacharjee wrote:
> > The Fedora Infrastructure team has proposed[1] to move the Fedora Translation
> > infrastructure to transifex.net. They would be discussing this further in
> > their next meeting and are looking for inputs from FLP members to fully
> > understand the implications of such a move. Please do let them know if you have
> > any feedback about the matter.
> >
>
>  What about the Fedora brand? 
OT here, but I'm also worried that transifex will be essentially not
maintained in Fedora repos anymore as a result of the move


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[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 08:32:57AM +0100, giallu(a)gmail.com wrote:
>  On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Mike Hideo <mhideo(a)redhat.com&gt;
> wrote:
>  > On 02/09/2011 03:51 PM, Runa Bhattacharjee wrote:
>  >> The Fedora Infrastructure team has proposed[1] to move the Fedora Translation
>  >> infrastructure to transifex.net. They would be discussing this further in
>  >> their next meeting and are looking for inputs from FLP members to fully
>  >> understand the implications of such a move. Please do let them know if you have
>  >> any feedback about the matter.
>  >>
>  >
>  > What about the Fedora brand?
>  
>  OT here, but I'm also worried that transifex will be essentially not
>  maintained in Fedora repos anymore as a result of the move 
I think that would be a really unfortunate situation, too.  However,
we need to consider that *every* package in Fedora could be
potentially at the same risk.  If the person(s) maintaining it are
only doing so for a very specific purpose, and that purpose goes away,
the package ends up at risk of rotting or removal.

This is one reason why we've always campaigned to have wider
co-maintenance of packages.  Co-maintenance prevents packaging from
having a single point of failure or from becoming a "vanity" project.
By "vanity," of course I don't mean that the transifex packagers are
maintaining the package because they're vain -- quite the opposite!
But if the only reason transifex is in the Fedora repo is so Fedora
can use it, ultimately the packaging effort may not scale well.

Packaging is always open to contributors and I'd invite interested
people to get in touch with the current maintainers to help.

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[Dimitris Glezos]

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Mike Hideo <mhideo(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  What about the Fedora brand?
>
>  2007:
>  http://web.archive.org/web/20070930231417/http://translate.fedoraproject....
>
>  2010:
>  https://translate.fedoraproject.org/ 
2011:
http://fedora.transifex.net/

:-)

-d


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[Michael Hideo Smith]

On 02/18/2011 08:14 AM, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
>  On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Mike Hideo<mhideo(a)redhat.com> 
> wrote:
> > What about the Fedora brand?
> >
> > 2007:
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20070930231417/http://translate.fedoraproject....
> >
> > 2010:
> > https://translate.fedoraproject.org/
>
>  2011:
>  http://fedora.transifex.net/
>  
What choice do I have?