anaconda translations in F17

[Domingo Becker]

Something went wrong with Anaconda translations, and before filing a
bug report I want to ask you if the Spanish translations is the only
one affected.

I remember I have tested Anaconda in April, 5th [1], and everything
went fine as I said in the Test Results, but in the F17 GA x86_64 DVD,
I see the buttons Back and Next, which surprises me because those two
buttons labels were translated many releases ago!

There are also many, many other untranslated strings (please read my
test results, I always participate in anaconda translations and
testing).

Do you translators see the same results in other languages?

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation

kind regards

Domingo Becker

[Jorge Lopes]

Hi Domingo,

I'm running the updated beta here and for PT-br there are no problems like
that.

Best regards,
Jorge

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Domingo Becker <domingobecker(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote:

>  Something went wrong with Anaconda translations, and before filing a
>  bug report I want to ask you if the Spanish translations is the only
>  one affected.
>
>  I remember I have tested Anaconda in April, 5th [1], and everything
>  went fine as I said in the Test Results, but in the F17 GA x86_64 DVD,
>  I see the buttons Back and Next, which surprises me because those two
>  buttons labels were translated many releases ago!
>
>  There are also many, many other untranslated strings (please read my
>  test results, I always participate in anaconda translations and
>  testing).
>
>  Do you translators see the same results in other languages?
>
>  [1]
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation
>
>  kind regards
>
>  Domingo Becker
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[Domingo Becker]

2012/5/31 Jorge Lopes <jlrmoc(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  Hi Domingo,
>
>  I'm running the updated beta here and for PT-br there are no problems like
>  that.
>  
Jorge,

what I mean is during installation.

Anaconda is the installation program, and it was almost fully
translated to Spanish in Beta phase. And now, I see many untranslated
strings which were translated in beta.

kind regards

Domingo Becker

[Jorge Lopes]

Domingo,

Yes, I understood what you mean in your first email. I know Anaconda and I
was the responsible for the translation of this module some releases ago.
The answer I give previously remains.

Anyway, I will take a look on the final version this week and give you a
feedback.

Regards.

Jorge

Regards

Em 01/06/2012 10:11, "Domingo Becker" <domingobecker(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu:
>  2012/5/31 Jorge Lopes <jlrmoc(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  > Hi Domingo,
>  >
>  > I'm running the updated beta here and for PT-br there are no problems
like
>  > that.
>  >
>
>  Jorge,
>
>  what I mean is during installation.
>
>  Anaconda is the installation program, and it was almost fully
>  translated to Spanish in Beta phase. And now, I see many untranslated
>  strings which were translated in beta.
>
>  kind regards
>
>  Domingo Becker
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[Domingo Becker]

2012/6/1 Jorge Lopes <jlrmoc(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  Domingo,
>
>  Yes, I understood what you mean in your first email. I know Anaconda and I
>  was the responsible for the translation of this module some releases ago.
>  The answer I give previously remains.
>  
Sorry, let me try again.

If you install F17 Beta, and then update it through the update system,
you will never see the final anaconda in action (the one included in
the final F17 GA).

So, you've had a very good experience with respect to translations.

My wish is that the final F17 DVD would give me the same experience
that I had with F17 Beta [1].

>  Anyway, I will take a look on the final version this week and give
> you a
>  feedback.
>  
Please, take a look at it, you may have surprises. At last, end users
will use the F17 GA instead of F17 Beta installer.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation

kind regards

Domingo Becker

[Peter Bojtos]

Hi Domingo,

Yes, I see the same untranslated strings in hungarian. I tried the final 
release of F17. I also see untranslated string in final release which 
are translated on transifex.

Do you experience the same problem?

best regards,
Peter Bojtos

2012-06-01 02:55 keltezéssel, Domingo Becker írta:
>  Something went wrong with Anaconda translations, and before filing a
>  bug report I want to ask you if the Spanish translations is the only
>  one affected.
>
>  I remember I have tested Anaconda in April, 5th [1], and everything
>  went fine as I said in the Test Results, but in the F17 GA x86_64 DVD,
>  I see the buttons Back and Next, which surprises me because those two
>  buttons labels were translated many releases ago!
>
>  There are also many, many other untranslated strings (please read my
>  test results, I always participate in anaconda translations and
>  testing).
>
>  Do you translators see the same results in other languages?
>
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation
>
>  kind regards
>
>  Domingo Becker
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[Jorge Lopes]

Domingo,

Now I finally understood. Sorry :) .

I will install it this weekend and give you a feedback about this point.

Thank you fot sharing it.
Jorge
Em 31/05/2012 21:55, "Domingo Becker" <domingobecker(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu:

>  Something went wrong with Anaconda translations, and before filing a
>  bug report I want to ask you if the Spanish translations is the only
>  one affected.
>
>  I remember I have tested Anaconda in April, 5th [1], and everything
>  went fine as I said in the Test Results, but in the F17 GA x86_64 DVD,
>  I see the buttons Back and Next, which surprises me because those two
>  buttons labels were translated many releases ago!
>
>  There are also many, many other untranslated strings (please read my
>  test results, I always participate in anaconda translations and
>  testing).
>
>  Do you translators see the same results in other languages?
>
>  [1]
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation
>
>  kind regards
>
>  Domingo Becker
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[Peter Bojtos]

Hi all,

I've copied the anaconda.mo file from the installer to my host, got back 
the po file with msgunfmt and examined the po file.

Some strings which are translated in the po/mo file, doesn't display in 
anaconda, only the english string is displayed.

Can it be a gettext bug in the installer? All the untranslated strings 
are coming from .glade files, the strings are coming from .py files are 
translated.

Should I file a bug in RHBZ?

Cheers,
ptr

2012-06-01 17:41 keltezéssel, Jorge Lopes írta:
>  Domingo,
>
>  Now I finally understood. Sorry :) .
>
>  I will install it this weekend and give you a feedback about this point.
>
>  Thank you fot sharing it.
>  Jorge
>
>  Em 31/05/2012 21:55, "Domingo Becker" <domingobecker(a)gmail.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> escreveu:
>
>      Something went wrong with Anaconda translations, and before filing a
>      bug report I want to ask you if the Spanish translations is the only
>      one affected.
>
>      I remember I have tested Anaconda in April, 5th [1], and everything
>      went fine as I said in the Test Results, but in the F17 GA x86_64 DVD,
>      I see the buttons Back and Next, which surprises me because those two
>      buttons labels were translated many releases ago!
>
>      There are also many, many other untranslated strings (please read my
>      test results, I always participate in anaconda translations and
>      testing).
>
>      Do you translators see the same results in other languages?
>
>      [1]
>      https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation
>
>      kind regards
>
>      Domingo Becker
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[Ani Peter]

Tested for Malayalam (ml) and majority of the strings are in English. 
Cc-ing the reply to fltg [1] mailing lists for more testing.

Thanking you
Best regards
Ani Peter
FLTG Member

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FLTG

Domingo Becker wrote:
>  Something went wrong with Anaconda translations, and before filing a
>  bug report I want to ask you if the Spanish translations is the only
>  one affected.
>
>  I remember I have tested Anaconda in April, 5th [1], and everything
>  went fine as I said in the Test Results, but in the F17 GA x86_64 DVD,
>  I see the buttons Back and Next, which surprises me because those two
>  buttons labels were translated many releases ago!
>
>  There are also many, many other untranslated strings (please read my
>  test results, I always participate in anaconda translations and
>  testing).
>
>  Do you translators see the same results in other languages?
>
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation
>
>  kind regards
>
>  Domingo Becker
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[Alam]

On 06/07/2012 12:34 PM, Ani Peter wrote:
>  Tested for Malayalam (ml) and majority of the strings are in English.
>
>  Cc-ing the reply to fltg [1] mailing lists for more testing.
>  
Hi

I just tested few locales (include CJK, Hindi and pt_BR) with Fedora 17 
GA x86_64 DVD. All tested languages have missing strings. There is a bug 
[1] already reported for this.

we need to plan regular testing for pre-release Fedora Beta and RC 
builds other than Fedora installation test day.

thanks

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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FLTG

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819242

[Kévin Raymond]

Le 8 juin 2012 19:12, "A S Alam" <apreet.alam(a)gmail.com&gt; a écrit :
>  On 06/07/2012 12:34 PM, Ani Peter wrote:
> >
> > Tested for Malayalam (ml) and majority of the strings are in English. 
Cc-ing
the reply to fltg [1] mailing lists for more testing.
> >
>
>  Hi
>
>  I just tested few locales (include CJK, Hindi and pt_BR) with Fedora 17 
GA x86_64
DVD. All tested languages have missing strings. There is a bug
[1] already reported for this.
>  we need to plan regular testing for pre-release Fedora Beta and RC builds 
other
than Fedora installation test day.

IMHO we need real string freeze.
But we used to have no L10n issues..

>  thanks
>
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>
>  [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819242
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[Domingo Becker]

2012/6/8 A S Alam <apreet.alam(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  we need to plan regular testing for pre-release Fedora Beta and RC builds
>  other than Fedora installation test day.
>  
There must have been a change in the method used to build the anaconda
package for the live image used for testing [1] and the way it was
built for Beta and GA releases. Perhaps a race condition in a parallel
build.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation...

k.r.

Domingo Becker

[Peter Bojtos]

Hi All,

Are there any hotfix for this problem? What should I add to the squashfs 
to eliminate this problem?
I'm working on a Fedora respin, which would need the localized anaconda, 
because my users can't understand english strings.

Cheers,
ptr

2012-06-08 23:43 keltezéssel, Domingo Becker írta:
>  2012/6/8 A S Alam<apreet.alam(a)gmail.com>:
> > we need to plan regular testing for pre-release Fedora Beta and RC builds
> > other than Fedora installation test day.
> >
>  There must have been a change in the method used to build the anaconda
>  package for the live image used for testing [1] and the way it was
>  built for Beta and GA releases. Perhaps a race condition in a parallel
>  build.
>
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation...
>
>  k.r.
>
>  Domingo Becker
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