system-config-rootpassword in transifex

[Lubomir Kundrak]

Hi translators,

This is just to let you know that PO-s in the Subversion repository of
system-config-rootpassword are available for translation via Transifex
(thanks Dimitris).

If you're just spending the boring holidays with your families and don't
have anything interesting to do, the system-config-rootpassword being
short and largely unfinished can help you spend your otherwise useless
time :)

Thanks, and happy holidays!

["Piotr \"Raven\" Drąg"]

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Lubomir Kundrak pisze:
> This is just to let you know that PO-s in the Subversion repository of
> system-config-rootpassword are available for translation via Transifex
> (thanks Dimitris).

Doesn't work for me, just like any other modules in t.fpo/submit. When
clicking "Preview" it shows only:

"500 Internal error
The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from
fulfilling the request."

:(

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Piotr "Raven" Drąg
http://raven.pmail.pl/
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[Lubomir Kundrak]

Hi,

On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 18:52 +0100, Piotr 'Raven' Drąg wrote:
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> Lubomir Kundrak pisze:
> > This is just to let you know that PO-s in the Subversion repository of
> > system-config-rootpassword are available for translation via Transifex
> > (thanks Dimitris).
>
> Doesn't work for me, just like any other modules in t.fpo/submit. When
> clicking "Preview" it shows only:
>
> "500 Internal error
> The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from
> fulfilling the request."

Seems odd to me. Though I had some problems with other modules in
Transifex, this one worked just fine for me. And you're in about the
very same relevant FAS groups as me. I'm not sure if we should open a
ticket, or this message is enough for Dimitris to handle it.

["Piotr \"Raven\" Drąg"]

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Lubomir Kundrak pisze:
> Seems odd to me. Though I had some problems with other modules in
> Transifex, this one worked just fine for me. And you're in about the
> very same relevant FAS groups as me. I'm not sure if we should open a
> ticket, or this message is enough for Dimitris to handle it.

Already filed as ticket #310:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/310

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Piotr "Raven" Drąg
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[Miloš Komarčević]

Hi Lubomir,

While we're on the subject, could you rename po/[e-mail] to
po/[e-mail] for us in your repo and update any build scripts if
needed?

Thanks,
Miloš

[Lubomir Kundrak]

Hi,

On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 17:55 +0000, Miloš Komarčević wrote:
> Hi Lubomir,
>
> While we're on the subject, could you rename po/[e-mail] to
> po/[e-mail] for us in your repo and update any build scripts if
> needed?

Thanks for noticing that. Should be fixed now.

[Francesco Tombolini]

Lubomir Kundrak ha scritto:
> Hi translators,
>
> This is just to let you know that PO-s in the Subversion repository of
> system-config-rootpassword are available for translation via Transifex
> (thanks Dimitris).
>
> If you're just spending the boring holidays with your families and don't
> have anything interesting to do, the system-config-rootpassword being
> short and largely unfinished can help you spend your otherwise useless
> time :)
>
> Thanks, and happy holidays!

I admit that I have some little problems with the new translation system 
(it is more simple for someone, but is more complex for me than a single 
cvs repo), and I'm not always updated about all threads in this list... 
but following the example in TQSG I cant submit the changes.

Can anyone explain me how to submit the changes? I feel discouraged to 
work with a system that constrain me to download .po from web, work 
whithout the history and logging features of cvs and submit the result 
to someone by mail or other method to commit...

And, by the way,  why for all language there is a warning like "Don't 
know where to look..."?

Thankyou

[Francesco Tombolini]

Francesco Tombolini ha scritto:
> Lubomir Kundrak ha scritto:
> > Hi translators,
> >
> > This is just to let you know that PO-s in the Subversion repository of
> > system-config-rootpassword are available for translation via Transifex
> > (thanks Dimitris).
> >
> > If you're just spending the boring holidays with your families and don't
> > have anything interesting to do, the system-config-rootpassword being
> > short and largely unfinished can help you spend your otherwise useless
> > time :)
> >
> > Thanks, and happy holidays!
>
> I admit that I have some little problems with the new translation 
> system (it is more simple for someone, but is more complex for me than 
> a single cvs repo), and I'm not always updated about all threads in 
> this list... but following the example in TQSG I cant submit the changes.
>
> Can anyone explain me how to submit the changes? I feel discouraged to 
> work with a system that constrain me to download .po from web, work 
> whithout the history and logging features of cvs and submit the result 
> to someone by mail or other method to commit...
>
> And, by the way,  why for all language there is a warning like "Don't 
> know where to look..."?
>
> Thankyou

I reply to myself... actually in TQSG the submit link redirect visitor 
to https://publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/submit/module/ but the submit 
link to this module I have discovered is 
https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/module/

[Lubomir Kundrak]

On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 08:52 +0100, Francesco Tombolini wrote:
> Francesco Tombolini ha scritto:
> > Lubomir Kundrak ha scritto:
> > > Hi translators,
> > >
> > > This is just to let you know that PO-s in the Subversion repository of
> > > system-config-rootpassword are available for translation via Transifex
> > > (thanks Dimitris).
> > >
> > > If you're just spending the boring holidays with your families and don't
> > > have anything interesting to do, the system-config-rootpassword being
> > > short and largely unfinished can help you spend your otherwise useless
> > > time :)
> > >
> > > Thanks, and happy holidays!
> >
> > I admit that I have some little problems with the new translation 
> > system (it is more simple for someone, but is more complex for me than 
> > a single cvs repo), and I'm not always updated about all threads in 
> > this list... but following the example in TQSG I cant submit the changes.
> >
> > Can anyone explain me how to submit the changes? I feel discouraged to 
> > work with a system that constrain me to download .po from web, work 
> > whithout the history and logging features of cvs and submit the result 
> > to someone by mail or other method to commit...
> >
> > And, by the way,  why for all language there is a warning like "Don't 
> > know where to look..."?
> >
> > Thankyou
>
> I reply to myself... actually in TQSG the submit link redirect visitor 
> to https://publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/submit/module/ but the submit 
> link to this module I have discovered is 
> https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/module/

Do you know if this is this actually properly documented somehow? It had
always seemed to me to be an oral tradition. Or is Transifex still not
considered production?

[Dimitris Glezos]

On 12/23/07, Francesco Tombolini  wrote:
> > I admit that I have some little problems with the new translation
> > system (it is more simple for someone, but is more complex for me than
> > a single cvs repo), and I'm not always updated about all threads in
> > this list... but following the example in TQSG I cant submit the changes.

The new system is definitely more complex than the old one. :-) But I
guess we had no choice since modules are being added/moved on
different VCSs. I'm trying my best to make it as simple as possible,
and easy-of-use is a common theme of all the steps in the Roadmap we
are considering.

We took the initiative to move stuff on community (Fedora) servers, so
we (the community) need to make sure it's running properly. The Fedora
Infrastructure team is handling the low-level bits, so if there's any
problem with the deployment (it's down or commit doesn't work for a
module) *PLEASE* let people know by dropping a note on IRC
#fedora-admin or open a ticket.

As far as the statistics are concerned, anyone from cvsl10n can update
the configuration files over at cvs.fpo/flpweb/ (l10n repo).
> > Can anyone explain me how to submit the changes? I feel discouraged to
> > work with a system that constrain me to download .po from web, work
> > whithout the history and logging features of cvs and submit the result
> > to someone by mail or other method to commit...

FWIW, anonymous checkout is enabled for all modules, so one could use
the command-line for monitoring the progress of a module, like before
(kind of), and just use Tx to commit. Ideally, we should implement a
client-side CLI to Tx that duplicates all the functionality of the
website and abstracts the VCS. Even if it's just read-only to do stuff
like `tx list modules`, `tx checkout anaconda pt_BR`, `tx checkout
all` and `tx submit`.

Until then, *every* module not hosted on cvs.fpo should work on
translate.fpo/submit/. At some point we should have automated scripts
to make sure everything works. Until then, please raise an alert if
something's borked.
> > And, by the way,  why for all language there is a warning like "Don't
> > know where to look..."?

This is because Damned Lies (the statistics SW) assumes all modules
use intltool for the creation of the POT, since this is what all
modules in GNOME use. The solution needs some coding (abstract the
string extraction process and choose in the fedora-modules.xml which
method should be used for each module) from our (Fedora's) part.
Patches warmly welcome!
> I reply to myself... actually in TQSG the submit link redirect visitor
> to https://publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/submit/module/ but the submit
> link to this module I have discovered is
> https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/module/

publictest5 is a test server -- our production (and maintained)
instance is on translate.fpo. I think Noriko updated the English
version of the TQSG in CVS to point to transate.fpo/submit:

Working file: en_US/Translating_Software.xml
revision 1.5
The url of https://publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/submit/module/ has
been replaced with https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit.

I guess this update didn't make it to docs.fpo yet. A quick note on
-docs-list should do the job.

I'm confident all the issues will be resolved in time. We're still
learning the tricks and quirks of each tool. Just now I realized that
when we change the repo of a HG or GIT module in Damned Lies, we have
to delete it's cache, otherwise it's still trying to pull from the old
repo. Just fixed setroubleshoot not updating properly. :-)

-d

[Paul W. Frields]

On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 14:52 +0200, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
> On 12/23/07, Francesco Tombolini  wrote:
> > I reply to myself... actually in TQSG the submit link redirect visitor
> > to https://publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/submit/module/ but the submit
> > link to this module I have discovered is
> > https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/module/
>
> publictest5 is a test server -- our production (and maintained)
> instance is on translate.fpo. I think Noriko updated the English
> version of the TQSG in CVS to point to transate.fpo/submit:
>
> Working file: en_US/Translating_Software.xml
> revision 1.5
> The url of https://publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/submit/module/ has
> been replaced with https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit.
>
> I guess this update didn't make it to docs.fpo yet. A quick note on
> -docs-list should do the job.

Actually, bugs in Bugzilla would be better.  But the problem is fixed in
the published en_US version now -- TQSG-0.3.9.1 -- and as translations
follow I'll publish them.