Fwd: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha to slip by one week.

[Noriko Mizumoto]

As subject, the schedule has slipped by one week.
We may or may not experience some string freeze brakes, please keep your 
eye on them:-)
Else, no issue reported during Fedora Readiness Meeting and all teams 
are going well.

The task schedule for translation has recently been updated by Robyn 
according to the request, but with some accident the mail has not hit 
the list.

noriko

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha to slip by one week.
Date: 	Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:21:29 -0700
From: 	Robyn Bergeron <rbergero(a)redhat.com&gt;
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Today at the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Alpha by one
week[1]. Minutes follow below.

There are numerous unresolved blocker bugs at this time[2], requiring
the creation of an RC4 once these blockers are resolved.

As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks, will be
pushed out by one week.

We will proceed with having the F16 Alpha readiness meeting tomorrow,
2011-08-11, as previously announced on the Logistics mailing list.  We
will have another F16 Alpha Blocker Bug meeting this Friday.

The adjustments to the F16 schedule will be done (very late) tonight,
and published to the Schedule wiki page[3].

Thanks for your patience.  We will be meeting again next Wednesday for
another Go/No-Go meeting.

-Robyn

[1] Logs:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-10/f16_alpha_gono...
      Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-10/f16_alpha_gono...

[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers

[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/Schedule

===========================================
#fedora-meeting: F16 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting
===========================================

Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:26 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-10/f16_alpha_gono...


Meeting summary
---------------
* present: spot, codeblock, dgilmore, pjones, athmane, cebbert,
    jsmith-mobile, adamw  (rbergeron, 21:03:42)
* Go/No-Go Meeting  (rbergeron, 21:04:07)
    * the Purpose of the Go/No-Go is to gather yay/nay's from Release
      Engineering, QA, and devel on whether or not what we have put
      together is ready for release and meets the release criteria.
      (rbergeron, 21:05:28)
    * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting   (adamw,
      21:06:17)
    * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers<--
      that one I know by heart, though.  (rbergeron, 21:06:42)

* Proposed Blockers  (rbergeron, 21:09:50)
    * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729563
      (rbergeron, 21:10:04)
    * clumens has an updates image (linked in BZ) for people to try out.
      (rbergeron, 21:12:33)
    * AGREED: : #729563, NTH Alpha, consider adding criterion for selinux
      must be enabled by default later.  (rbergeron, 21:14:39)

* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729500  (rbergeron,
    21:15:04)
    * Error while installing updates on Fedora 16 Alpha RC3  (rbergeron,
      21:15:20)
    * AGREED: revisit #729563 at Blocker meeting friday, try to get more
      testers. PLEASE TEST THIS ONE AND TRY TO DUPLICATE, FOLKS!
      (rbergeron, 21:17:34)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729528  (rbergeron,
    21:17:53)
    * #729528 - Unable to configure events in reporter to forward in
      anaconda for F-16-Alpha-RC3  (rbergeron, 21:18:09)
    * AGREED: #729528 Alpha Blocker, per criterion of installer must be
      able to report failures to BZ, wiht appropriate info included.
      (rbergeron, 21:22:19)

* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729537  (rbergeron,
    21:22:53)
    * 729537 - Anaconda cannot report crashes in text mode in F16 Alpha
      RC3 due to missing report-cli  (rbergeron, 21:23:14)
    * AGREED: 729537 Alpha Blocker, per criterion of installer must be
      able to report failures to BZ, with appropriate info included.
      (rbergeron, 21:25:32)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728707  (rbergeron,
    21:25:48)
    * 728707 - on package upgrade RPM is removing empty directories
      accidentally  (rbergeron, 21:26:02)
    * AGREED: 728707 is a blocker under 'must be able to install updates'
      criterion - this constitutes not installing updates properly
      (adamw, 21:33:36)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729600  (adamw, 21:37:37)
    * LINK:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Installation_Guide/Mak...
      (jlk, 21:47:30)
    * AGREED: 729600 not blocker or nth, installing from a dd'ed DVD iso
      is expected to require extra configuration. documentation should be
      improved to outline the steps required  (adamw, 21:56:27)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863  (adamw, 21:57:30)

* go/no-go vote  (adamw, 22:00:30)
    * AGREED: Fedora 16 Alpha is no-go at this time  (adamw, 22:01:32)
    * ACTION: rbergeron will take care of updating the schedules  (adamw,
      22:02:04)

* open floor  (adamw, 22:03:40)

Meeting ended at 22:05:08 UTC.

Action Items
------------
* rbergeron will take care of updating the schedules

Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* rbergeron
    * rbergeron will take care of updating the schedules
* **UNASSIGNED**
    * (none)


People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* adamw (167)
* rbergeron (73)
* pjones (66)
* jlk (49)
* dgilmore (36)
* Viking_Alpha (35)
* tflink (32)
* clumens (22)
* nirik (20)
* zodbot (6)
* spot (4)
* cebbert (3)
* athmane (2)
* CodeBlock (2)
* jsmith-mobile (1)
* tk009 (1)
* cwickert (1)
* jsmith (1)

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha to slip by one week.

[Domingo Becker]

2011/8/11 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  As subject, the schedule has slipped by one week.
>  We may or may not experience some string freeze brakes, please keep your
>  eye on them:-)
>  Else, no issue reported during Fedora Readiness Meeting and all teams
>  are going well.
>
>  The task schedule for translation has recently been updated by Robyn
>  according to the request, but with some accident the mail has not hit
>  the list.
>  
Noriko-san, it looks like we need a deadline for anaconda package
compose in order to include the latest translations.

The Spanish Team had anaconda translations completed several days
before the Alpha RCn composes, and not all translations were included.
Perhaps we did not make it to the compose deadline.

I tested Alpha RC2.

Anaconda is a special package, because it's the first one we see when
installing Fedora. I would really like the users to have the best
experience with Fedora installation.

And Robin, I'm missing your annunces in this list. Thank you for all
you did in the past, sincerely.

Thank you, Noriko-san.

kind regards

Domingo Becker (es)

[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha to slip by one week.

[Noriko Mizumoto]

(2011年08月12日 13:47), Domingo Becker wrote:
>  2011/8/11 Noriko Mizumoto<noriko(a)fedoraproject.org>:
> > As subject, the schedule has slipped by one week.
> > We may or may not experience some string freeze brakes, please keep your
> > eye on them:-)
> > Else, no issue reported during Fedora Readiness Meeting and all teams
> > are going well.
> >
> > The task schedule for translation has recently been updated by Robyn
> > according to the request, but with some accident the mail has not hit
> > the list.
> >
>  Noriko-san, it looks like we need a deadline for anaconda package
>  compose in order to include the latest translations.
>
>  The Spanish Team had anaconda translations completed several days
>  before the Alpha RCn composes, and not all translations were included.
>  Perhaps we did not make it to the compose deadline.
>
>  I tested Alpha RC2. 
I am understanding that naturally Alpha does not contain latest 
translation but Beta and after should. Alpha has been composed early 
August just around string freeze date.

>  Anaconda is a special package, because it's the first one we see
> when
>  installing Fedora. I would really like the users to have the best
>  experience with Fedora installation. 
Yes, I strongly agree.
We like to make sure that latest translation is correctly included and 
it's quality for final release. Therefore 'live image will be composed 
by release-engineering for software review', about a week before 
translation deadline as described in the task schedule. This image 
should contain latest translation. If any issue is found, a bug can be 
filed (and hopefully fixed by Beta change deadline) or direct 
modification can be made to PO files before translation deadline.
For this purpose, we will have L10N test day.

Everything in this image, plus any modification made during review 
period, should be included in Beta and after.

noriko

>  And Robin, I'm missing your annunces in this list. Thank you for
> all
>  you did in the past, sincerely.
>
>  Thank you, Noriko-san.
>
>  kind regards
>
>  Domingo Becker (es)
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