accidentally updated pot and po for documentation-guide

[Murray McAllister]

Hi,

I accidentally ran "make pot po", then committed the changes for the
documentation-guide. I misunderstood something, as this should have
been done for the translation-quick-start-guide.

Sorry for any problems this caused :(

Regards,

Murray.

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TQSG updated

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Hi translators

TQSG has now updated to conform to FAS2. This is latest.
Thanks a lot Murray!

[noriko@noriko translation-quick-start-guide]$ make postat
de: 195/19/33/
el: 103/30/114/
es: 80/35/132/
fr: 62/42/143/
id: 101/3/143/
it: 195/19/33/
ja: 195/19/33/
ms: 26/21/200/
nl: 246/1/
pa: 185/26/36/
pl: 195/19/33/
pt: 167/41/39/
pt_BR: 195/19/33/
ru: 59/44/144/
sr: 195/19/33/
sv: 80/35/132/
zh_CN: 195/19/33/

noriko


Murray McAllister wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  I accidentally ran "make pot po", then committed the changes for the
>  documentation-guide. I misunderstood something, as this should have
>  been done for the translation-quick-start-guide.
>  
>  Sorry for any problems this caused :(
>  
>  Regards,
>  
>  Murray.
>  
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>  Key fingerprint = 4ED9 9907 5BF0 4132 2B46  20D1 C0C6 362D 81B3 FDEB
>  Murray McAllister (Fedora Docs Project / mdious) <murray.mcallister(a)gmail.com&gt;
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TQSG updated

[Noriko Mizumoto]

Hi

I have seen that a couple of languages have already been completed 
100%!! Great work, thank you so much!
For whom don't know much about tqsg just in case, this is "Translation 
Quick Start Guide" which describes how to start translation work, very 
handy for new comer. We are going to translate this guide into as many 
languages as possible to lower the bar.

Here is the current stat.

[noriko@noriko translation-quick-start-guide]$ make postat
de: 212/10/25/
el: 103/30/114/
es: 80/35/132/
fr: 62/42/143/
hu: 247/
id: 101/3/143/
it: 195/19/33/
ja: 203/14/30/
ms: 26/21/200/
nl: 247/
pa: 185/26/36/
pl: 247/
pt: 167/41/39/
pt_BR: 243/4/
ru: 59/44/144/
sr: 195/19/33/
sv: 80/35/132/
zh_CN: 195/19/33/

Now I am going to be complete off for three weeks starting next week. So 
I wish if someone can keep the ball rolling...we are almost there.
Someone can keep watch the stat for a while, and when most languages 
updated, he/she can just ask Paul or anyone in Docs team to publish the 
translated version?
Of ocurse he/she will get the bonus to shout "We are final! Spread the 
word!".

Thanks
noriko


Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>  Hi translators
>  
>  TQSG has now updated to conform to FAS2. This is latest.
>  Thanks a lot Murray!
>  
>  [noriko@noriko translation-quick-start-guide]$ make postat
>  de: 195/19/33/
>  el: 103/30/114/
>  es: 80/35/132/
>  fr: 62/42/143/
>  id: 101/3/143/
>  it: 195/19/33/
>  ja: 195/19/33/
>  ms: 26/21/200/
>  nl: 246/1/
>  pa: 185/26/36/
>  pl: 195/19/33/
>  pt: 167/41/39/
>  pt_BR: 195/19/33/
>  ru: 59/44/144/
>  sr: 195/19/33/
>  sv: 80/35/132/
>  zh_CN: 195/19/33/
>  
>  noriko
>  
>  
>  Murray McAllister wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I accidentally ran "make pot po", then committed the changes for the
> > documentation-guide. I misunderstood something, as this should have
> > been done for the translation-quick-start-guide.
> >
> > Sorry for any problems this caused :(
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Murray.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > pub   1024D/81B3FDEB 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18]
> > Key fingerprint = 4ED9 9907 5BF0 4132 2B46  20D1 C0C6 362D 81B3 FDEB
> > Murray McAllister (Fedora Docs Project / mdious) 
> > <murray.mcallister(a)gmail.com&gt;
> > sub   2048g/B04CFA0C 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18]
> >
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TQSG updated

[Gauthier Ancelin]

Le Thursday 15 May 2008 09:09:15 Noriko Mizumoto, vous avez écrit :
>  Hi
>
>  I have seen that a couple of languages have already been completed
>  100%!! Great work, thank you so much!
>  For whom don't know much about tqsg just in case, this is "Translation
>  Quick Start Guide" which describes how to start translation work, very
>  handy for new comer. We are going to translate this guide into as many
>  languages as possible to lower the bar. 
Hi Noriko,

In my opinion, having a non translated TQSG is not a big problem. Lower the 
bar is a good thing, but if someone wants to translate for Fedora, it seems 
to me he/she must understand english as good as possible.

Understanding the QTSG is a good test.

I think the biggest problem for newcomers comes from the technical operation 
needed to set up and use a translation environment. Transiflex has helped a 
lot already, since translators no more need to know how to use CVS. But 
getting an SSH key for example is not very easy for a new user who's not 
familiar with command line, file permission...

To sum up, I'm ok to translate it, but there are other priorities (at least 
for the french team), like having a 100% translated Fedora distro.

Gauthier.

TQSG updated

[Dimitris Glezos]

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Gauthier Ancelin
<gauthier.ancelin(a)laposte.net&gt; wrote:
>  In my opinion, having a non translated TQSG is not a big problem. Lower the
>  bar is a good thing, but if someone wants to translate for Fedora, it seems
>  to me he/she must understand english as good as possible. 
There are some occasions where teams use an intermediate language for
translations. This happens in some occasions in Europe and India,
where some folks translate to the target language from the
French/Hindi of a resource.

>  Understanding the QTSG is a good test.
>
>  I think the biggest problem for newcomers comes from the technical operation
>  needed to set up and use a translation environment. Transiflex has helped a
>  lot already, since translators no more need to know how to use CVS. But
>  getting an SSH key for example is not very easy for a new user who's not
>  familiar with command line, file permission... 
Unfortunately for us, translators are required to sign the CLA (ie.
have and use a GPG key) to contribute translations, since their
contributions end up in the shipped ISO, etc. With
Transifex in place though, I'm not sure they are should be required to
have an SSH though.

>  To sum up, I'm ok to translate it, but there are other priorities
> (at least
>  for the french team), like having a 100% translated Fedora distro. 
The document might become more useful if it wasn't a "quick" guide,
but it explained better how the project works, how teams collaborate,
some explanations on Transifex (mini-manual) etc.

-d


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TQSG updated

[Paul W. Frields]

On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 14:01 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
>  On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Gauthier Ancelin
>  <gauthier.ancelin(a)laposte.net&gt; wrote:
>  > I think the biggest problem for newcomers comes from the technical operation
>  > needed to set up and use a translation environment. Transiflex has helped a
>  > lot already, since translators no more need to know how to use CVS. But
>  > getting an SSH key for example is not very easy for a new user who's not
>  > familiar with command line, file permission...
>  
>  Unfortunately for us, translators are required to sign the CLA (ie.
>  have and use a GPG key) to contribute translations, since their
>  contributions end up in the shipped ISO, etc. With
>  Transifex in place though, I'm not sure they are should be required to
>  have an SSH though. 
Actually, they don't any more -- the new FAS2 has a click through CLA,
no GPG required.  Just wanted to clarify (a little late catching up on
this list).

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