Translation Sprint Report

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hello everybody!

I'm about to finish the report on CommBlog and I would like some feedback.
I'm not sure how to wrap this up so any ideas or suggestions will be
welcome.  Also, I would like to add an image or two.  Does anyone have a
photo or an image that would look nice here?

This is the link:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd...



Cheers,
Sylvia

[Zdenek Chmelar]

Hi Sylvia

First of all, thanks a lot for this blog ;-)
Please replace "John Doe2" :-D with my real name (as you used in the
interview later on).

We could use some graphs / stats from translation event that were already
reported earlier.
In addition to it, we could use globe map with overview which countries
were represented in the translation (exactly the same type of map used for
F24 sprint)
https://i2.wp.com/communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2016...

Once I'm back from office, I will prepare the graphs and try to play a bit
with the map as well.
Will ping you soon

Zdenek

On 5 October 2016 at 15:41, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hello everybody!
>
>  I'm about to finish the report on CommBlog and I would like some
>  feedback.  I'm not sure how to wrap this up so any ideas or suggestions
>  will be welcome.  Also, I would like to add an image or two.  Does anyone
>  have a photo or an image that would look nice here?
>
>  This is the link:
>  https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd...
>
>
>
>  Cheers,
>  Sylvia
>
>
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[William Moreno]

>  Once I'm back from office, I will prepare the graphs and try to play a 
bit with
the map as well.
>  Will ping you soon 
Please do not forget than many translators for the "es" are from Latin
America and not only Spain (the country) was active in this FAD

Thanks to Sylvia for make the drafts of the post

>  Zdenek
>
>  On 5 October 2016 at 15:41, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello everybody!
> >
> > I'm about to finish the report on CommBlog and I would like some 
feedback. 
I'm not sure how to wrap this up so any ideas or suggestions
will be welcome.  Also, I would like to add an image or two.  Does anyone
have a photo or an image that would look nice here?
> >
> > This is the link:
> > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd...
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sylvia
> >
> >
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[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hello everybody:

William, yes I remember that and I will add it so it's clear for readers
too.
Zdenek, I like the article scheme you sent.  But I didn't see the graphs
and maps.  Can you upload them somewhere or send them through mail?


Cheers and thank you very much!
Sylvia

On 6 October 2016 at 03:58, William Moreno <williamjmorenor(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

>  >
>  > Once I'm back from office, I will prepare the graphs and try to play a
>  bit with the map as well.
>  > Will ping you soon
>
>  Please do not forget than many translators for the "es" are from Latin
>  America and not only Spain (the country) was active in this FAD
>
>  Thanks to Sylvia for make the drafts of the post
>
>  > Zdenek
>  >
>  > On 5 October 2016 at 15:41, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Hello everybody!
>  >>
>  >> I'm about to finish the report on CommBlog and I would like some
>  feedback.  I'm not sure how to wrap this up so any ideas or suggestions
>  will be welcome.  Also, I would like to add an image or two.  Does anyone
>  have a photo or an image that would look nice here?
>  >>
>  >> This is the link:
>  >> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&
>  preview=1&_ppp=fd80f55d06
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Cheers,
>  >> Sylvia
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
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[Zdenek Chmelar]

Hello all

Regarding the graphs - I uploaded them on fedorapeople.org  (thanks a lot to Jean-Baptiste
for pointing this out)
Well all pictures are located here: https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/
There is one dir called "source" where the source files used for creation of the
pictures are located (graphs and map)

[Zdenek Chmelar]

Hello William

Could you help me to list down these further countries please?
This is current overview of highlighted countries (see link below) so I'm sure I
missed some further.
If you tell me what other countries I should mark, I will do it fast.

https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/World.png

[Máximo Castañeda]

It may be difficult without those participating during the sprint
chiming in.  It'd be much easier if the map was about the languages:
adding anything in America south of the USA would probably be enough.
In the Spanish group there are, with different involvement, people
from at least Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Nicaragua,
Panama, Spain, Uruguay and Venezuela.  There's (or was) even a guy
from the USA and another one from Brazil.

2016-10-06 10:36 GMT+02:00 Zdenek Chmelar <chmelarz(a)gmail.com&gt;:
> Hello William
>
> Could you help me to list down these further countries please?
> This is current overview of highlighted countries (see link below) so I'm sure I
missed some further.
> If you tell me what other countries I should mark, I will do it fast.
>
> https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/World.png
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[William Moreno]

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2016-10-06 3:16 GMT-06:00 Máximo Castañeda <mcrcctm(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  It may be difficult without those participating during the sprint
>  chiming in.  It'd be much easier if the map was about the languages:
>  adding anything in America south of the USA would probably be enough.
>  In the Spanish group there are, with different involvement, people
>  from at least Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Nicaragua,
>  Panama, Spain, Uruguay and Venezuela.  There's (or was) even a guy
>  from the USA and another one from Brazil.
>
>  
Thanks to Maximo  I think we have a complete list of countries for latam
than were active in this FAD :)


>  2016-10-06 10:36 GMT+02:00 Zdenek Chmelar
> <chmelarz(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  > Hello William
>  >
>  > Could you help me to list down these further countries please?
>  > This is current overview of highlighted countries (see link below) so
>  I'm sure I missed some further.
>  > If you tell me what other countries I should mark, I will do it fast.
>  >
>  > https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/World.png
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[Yuri Chornoivan]

середа, 05-жов-2016 15:41:03 Sylvia Sánchez написано:
>  Hello everybody!
>  
>  I'm about to finish the report on CommBlog and I would like some feedback.
>  I'm not sure how to wrap this up so any ideas or suggestions will be
>  welcome.  Also, I would like to add an image or two.  Does anyone have a
>  photo or an image that would look nice here?
>  
>  This is the link:
>  https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd...
>  
>  
>  
>  Cheers,
>  Sylvia 
Hi,

Very nice blog post. Thank you.

I think that it looks good as is, no need to add this refrain about joining 
the team but the usual link of Fedora L10N wiki page would be nice at the end:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N

Do not know if Fedora has a mascot now, but it would be nice to have something 
like we have in KDE

https://community.kde.org/Promo/Material/Mascots

to advertise the distribution in a fun way. ;)

Best regards,
Yuri

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hello!

Zdenek:
Oh...!  yes, sure, I'm sorry, I don't know how I didn't see it.  My
apologies, Zdenek!
Oh, graphs and maps would be look awesome.  Thank you!
Yuri:
I'm not aware of any Fedora mascot, but it could be an amusing idea.
Besides that, I think that adding the link it's a good idea.  Even if most
of the readers already know it, won't harm to add it.  There's always the
chance of someone reading and joining because of the article.  So yes, I
will add it.  Thank you.


Cheers and thanks!
Sylvia


On 5 October 2016 at 16:11, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor(a)ukr.net&gt; wrote:

>  середа, 05-жов-2016 15:41:03 Sylvia Sánchez написано:
>  > Hello everybody!
>  >
>  > I'm about to finish the report on CommBlog and I would like some
>  feedback.
>  > I'm not sure how to wrap this up so any ideas or suggestions will be
>  > welcome.  Also, I would like to add an image or two.  Does anyone have a
>  > photo or an image that would look nice here?
>  >
>  > This is the link:
>  > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&
>  preview=1&_ppp=fd80f55d06
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  > Sylvia
>
>  Hi,
>
>  Very nice blog post. Thank you.
>
>  I think that it looks good as is, no need to add this refrain about joining
>  the team but the usual link of Fedora L10N wiki page would be nice at the
>  end:
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N
>
>  Do not know if Fedora has a mascot now, but it would be nice to have
>  something
>  like we have in KDE
>
>  https://community.kde.org/Promo/Material/Mascots
>
>  to advertise the distribution in a fun way. ;)
>
>  Best regards,
>  Yuri
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[Zdenek Chmelar]

No worries, nothing happened :-)

I created the graphs and the world map. Because I do not know how to attach them to this
mailing list, I will send them to your mail separately.
   - The pictures are big enough to keep the overview clear. Well if possible, please add
small pictures to the blog and make them clickable to allow people to see them in full
detail.
   - I used graphs created by Jean-Baptiste, just modified them a bit. I wanted to use
some fancy look but I do not know how it will look at the blog post. Maybe I will have to
change colors because it will be badly visible. (just let me know and I will change it)

Next, I would propose to add following information to your blog (inspired with blog from
F24 sprint and stats provided by Jean-Baptiste). If accepted, please review the text from
English grammar point of view. Here is the text:
==============

The Translation Sprint took one week, from Sep 3 till Sep 9, and was focused on the
translation of important GUI packages. During these 7 days, 53 contributors translated 112
366 words in 20 different languages.

--> insert World.png <--
"Countries participated in Sprint"


**Translated packages**

The figures below show all important projects included in the Sprint event and their
translation progress (delta between start and end of the translation sprint). While some
packages didn't change much or at all, some other have got lots of attention like
authconfig, cracklib or blivet.

--> insert Graph.01.png <--
"Number (%) of completed translations before and after (language status must be
100%)"

--> insert Graph.02.png <--
"Total number of completed translations before and after (language status must be
100%)"


**Translated languages**

During the Sprint, 53 contributors translated 112 366 words in 20 different languages.
Twelve languages submitted more then one thousand of translated words.
Figure #3 shows translation status per language before and after the Sprint event. The
biggest progress was done for Slowak, Portugal and Albanian languages.

--> insert Graph.03.png <--
"Fedora translation status per language before and after"

Looking at the the translation statistics per language, we get results presented on next
Figure. The most active team was Brazilian group of translators (over 60 thousand of
processed words!!!), followed with Czech, French, Hungarian and the other teams.

--> insert Graph.05.png <--
"Translation activity per language"


**Contributors**

Let's make the summary of the top contributors. 15 translators submitted more then
1000 words and 33 translators managed over 100 words.
Incredible work was done by user Danniel who reviewed and approved over 40 thousand of
words! The second top approver was user Fredlima who managed over 10k words and the third
top approver was user Adallape having more then 5k approved words.
User Zdenek translated the most words - above 15 thousand. Next top translator was user
Meskobalazs (over 6k words) followed by user Jibecfed who translated more then 5k words.
Following figure shows translation activity per user participating in the sprint (top
21).

--> insert Graph.04.png <--
"Translation activity per user (first 21 users)"

Last figure shows number of translators per language who participated in the Sprint.
Brazilian team had highest community support (13 people), next was French team (5 people)
followed by Spain and Chinese teams (both 4 translators).

--> insert Graph.06.png <--
"Number of translators per language"

Last but not least, please read below feedback from the translators themselves.

---> Follows interview section
=====================

Thank you
Zdenek

On 5 October 2016 at 19:11, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hello everybody!
>
>  I'm about to finish the report on CommBlog and I would like some
>  feedback.  I'm not sure how to wrap this up so any ideas or suggestions
>  will be welcome.  Also, I would like to add an image or two.  Does anyone
>  have a photo or an image that would look nice here?
>
>  This is the link:
>  https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd...
>  

Hi Sylvia,

   Article is really very interesting. Interviews have added good impact.

  My personnel opinion is to don't get this article overloaded with huge
information. Maximum one 3D graph  (language Vs words Vs participants) will
be sufficient.

  @Zdenek can you prepare 3D one?

  https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/Translation.Sprint.F25/World.png  This is
already good, need to add some wording on it. like [1]

  Good to go ahead with 2 more graphs to this only, if required may be add
interview candidate photos photographs from FAS :) (if they do not object
;) )

Thanks,
Pravin

1.
https://i2.wp.com/communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2016...



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[Zdenek Chmelar]

Hello Pravin, Sylvia, team

I updated the maps and figures. Here are my comments to your replies:

1. Spanish group vs participated countries: Well we should highlight countries (= users)
that actively participated in the translation. 
Based on
https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/Translation.Sprint.F25/source/VFAD_F25_St...
there were 4 active Spainish translators during FAD. Based on their FAS or Wiki profiles,
two are supporting Nicaragua, one Panama and last one Chile. I highlighted these countries
in the map.

2. I created new 3D graphs (
https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/Translation.Sprint.F25/Graph.3D/ )
3D map can't have two Y-axis (only in 2D). Well I wasn't able to create 1 graph
"language vs words vs participants". Please check the created figures and use
those that fit your needs. If you have some other idea, please let me know and I will
create that graph(s).

3. World map was updated with additional Latam countries that actively participated in
translation. I also added description as suggested by Pravin.
Map is located here: https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/Translation.Sprint.F25/World.png

4. All graphs were updated with title (description). Plese let me know if some graph
meaning is not clear. I will try to improve it.

5. I kept Polish translation stats in the graphs (even if a removal requested) - every
contribution counts ;-)

Many thanks for your feedback in advance.

[Alex Eng]

>  I kept Polish translation stats in the graphs (even if a removal
>  requested) - every contribution counts ;-) 

+1


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On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Zdenek Chmelar <chmelarz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hello Pravin, Sylvia, team
>
>  I updated the maps and figures. Here are my comments to your replies:
>
>  1. Spanish group vs participated countries: Well we should highlight
>  countries (= users) that actively participated in the translation.
>  Based on https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/Translation.Sprint.F25/
>  source/VFAD_F25_Statistics-Zanata.ods
>  there were 4 active Spainish translators during FAD. Based on their FAS or
>  Wiki profiles, two are supporting Nicaragua, one Panama and last one Chile.
>  I highlighted these countries in the map.
>
>  2. I created new 3D graphs ( https://zdenek.fedorapeople.
>  org/Translation.Sprint.F25/Graph.3D/ )
>  3D map can't have two Y-axis (only in 2D). Well I wasn't able to create 1
>  graph "language vs words vs participants". Please check the created figures
>  and use those that fit your needs. If you have some other idea, please let
>  me know and I will create that graph(s).
>
>  3. World map was updated with additional Latam countries that actively
>  participated in translation. I also added description as suggested by
>  Pravin.
>  Map is located here: https://zdenek.fedorapeople.
>  org/Translation.Sprint.F25/World.png
>
>  4. All graphs were updated with title (description). Plese let me know if
>  some graph meaning is not clear. I will try to improve it.
>
>  5. I kept Polish translation stats in the graphs (even if a removal
>  requested) - every contribution counts ;-)
>
>  Many thanks for your feedback in advance.
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On 10 October 2016 at 05:39, Zdenek Chmelar <chmelarz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hello Pravin, Sylvia, team
>
>  I updated the maps and figures. Here are my comments to your replies:
>
>  1. Spanish group vs participated countries: Well we should highlight
>  countries (= users) that actively participated in the translation.
>  Based on https://zdenek.fedorapeople.org/Translation.Sprint.F25/
>  source/VFAD_F25_Statistics-Zanata.ods
>  there were 4 active Spainish translators during FAD. Based on their FAS or
>  Wiki profiles, two are supporting Nicaragua, one Panama and last one Chile.
>  I highlighted these countries in the map.
>
>  2. I created new 3D graphs ( https://zdenek.fedorapeople.
>  org/Translation.Sprint.F25/Graph.3D/ )
>  3D map can't have two Y-axis (only in 2D). Well I wasn't able to create 1
>  graph "language vs words vs participants". Please check the created figures
>  and use those that fit your needs. If you have some other idea, please let
>  me know and I will create that graph(s).
>
>  3. World map was updated with additional Latam countries that actively
>  participated in translation. I also added description as suggested by
>  Pravin.
>  Map is located here: https://zdenek.fedorapeople.
>  org/Translation.Sprint.F25/World.png
>
>  4. All graphs were updated with title (description). Plese let me know if
>  some graph meaning is not clear. I will try to improve it.
>
>  5. I kept Polish translation stats in the graphs (even if a removal
>  requested) - every contribution counts ;-)
>  
Looks very nice now :) Thanks Zdenek for nice graphs.

@sylvia may be just upload graphs by adding one section in your article.
Graphs are self explanatory :)

Thanks,
Pravin

[Rafal Luzynski]

5.10.2016 15:41 Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  [...]
>   This is the link:
>   https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd...
>  https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd... 
In this sentence:

"The leading teams were Polish and Brazilian Portuguese with 31 packages each."

Can anybody explain what the number "31" refers to? Total
31 packages fully translated? New packages fully translated
during this sprint (those which had not been fully translated
before)? Updated during this sprint? None of these answers
sounds as the real answer to me. I think it should be
clarified.

Regards,

Rafal

[Piotr Drąg]

2016-10-06 22:37 GMT+02:00 Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak(a)lingonborough.com&gt;:
>  5.10.2016 15:41 Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > [...]
> >  This is the link:
> >  https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd...
> > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2504&preview=1&_ppp=fd...
>
>  In this sentence:
>
>  "The leading teams were Polish and Brazilian Portuguese with 31 packages
> each."
>  
Also, it's probably best to leave out the information about Polish
translations, as 99% of the changes were semi-automatic typographical
fixes that only partly coincided with the sprint. I don't want to
steal the spotlight from the teams that actually did the hard work.

Best regards,

-- 
Piotr Drąg
https://piotrdrag.fedorapeople.org