RE: Fedora and the System Administrator -- are my assumptions on SuSE incorrect?
by Jef Spaleta
Buck wrote:
> According to the SuSE rep, the Professional, Pro Upgrade and Personal
> CD-ROMs may be copied and distributed as long as there is no profit
> involved. That was this afternoon while I have been addressing these
> questions.
Maybe...you should take what the Suse sales rep has told you...with a
grain of salt...and i think you need seriously come to come to gripes
with the fact that Fedora is going to be about the best options for a
better brighter freer future.
Take a deep breath...you are not going to like this lecture one bit. I
sort of actually feel bad about what I'm about to do in this post.
Yes or no....is everything on the cd Suse is selling opensource?
Are their 3rd party proprietary products on that cd?
Do you know specifically what the licensing conditions on those 3rd
party packages are? Does the Suse sales rep? And it also might depend
exactly on what suse product you are getting is.
http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/suse-product-strategy
quoting footnote 4 and 5:
[4] List of packages:
http://www.suse.de/us/private/products/suse_linux/i386/packages_personal/...
Regrettably, SuSE Linux AG doesn't make it easy to figure out what
specific licensing terms pertain to each package, but, in theory, this
list of all included packages would be one starting point in gleaning
that information.
As of SuSE Linux 8.2, packages that are not licensed for public
redistribution include (at a minimum):
Adobe Acroread
Moneyplex
Opera Web browser
Real Networks RealPlayer8
[5] List of packages:
http://www.suse.de/us/private/products/suse_linux/i386/packages_professio...
As of SuSE Linux 8.2, packages that are not licensed for public
redistribution include (at a minimum):
Adobe Acroread
Moneyplex
OpenPBS
Opera Web browser
Real Networks RealPlayer8
<--END QUOTE-->
Might I add that Opera seems to require you to REGISTER and AGREE to
their distribution terms of their free browser....have fun with with
that. http://distribute.opera.com/distribution/
to quote Opera's FREE download 7.11 version EULA:
The Software is protected by Norwegian and United States copyright laws
and international treaties. You may make one copy of the Software solely
for backup or archival purposes or transfer it to a single hard disk
provided you keep the original disk solely for backup or archival
purposes. You may not rent or lease the Software or copy any written
materials accompanying the Software, but you may transfer the Software
and all accompanying materials on a
permanent basis, if you retain no copies and the recipient agrees to the
terms of this Agreement. Any transfer must include the most recent
update and all prior versions.
-jef"sure you CAN distribute opera for free..under certain conditions
that are subject to change..including registering with them before you
do it...better make SURE you know under what conditions Opera allows you
to...and for god sakes...slap the crap out of that Suse salesperson for
being SOOOOOO misleading"spaleta
20 years, 7 months
Re: Fedora and the System Administrator
by Miguel M
Bill Anderson wrote 2003-10-01
>Well if you need no support from RH ....
>-> Buy as many licenses as you feel you can, you can even use these on
>your priority production machines for the support aspect
>-> Download the SRPMS[1]
>-> Use an installed system to build the SRPMS into a distro, since they
>are GPLed.[2]
>-> Deploy the GPL version to your other systems, "branding" it a "Common
>Operating Environment"
>There is a project already underway on making a system to build an
>installable release from the SRPMS.
Thank you very much for you ideas Bill!
It's good to read at last a smart solution to the
problem instead of "change Linux Distribution", etc.
Do you know the name (or better yet the URL) of
that "installable release from the SRPMS" project?
Cheers,
Miguel
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20 years, 7 months
Re: Fedora and the System Administrator
by Jef Spaleta
Erik Williamson wrote:
> I've recently been asked/told to limit OS releases to every 2 years.
> I feel that this is fair.
You might want to sit down and make sure there are no breakable objects
nearby.
http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html
Fedora Project:
Update Lifetime 2-3 months after next release
Now...before you go into a hulkish rage. Look at
http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/terminology.html
Fedora Legacy definition.
If you are interested in seeing Fedora Legacy support for your boxen to
the tune of the 2 year span you are interested in....you need to be part
of the discussion and part of the community legacy effort sooner rather
than later.
Other options of course is to talk to Red Hat sales about working out
some licensing options. I'm pretty sure Red Hat a rep has been on the
fedora mailing list saying they are willing to talk about .edu about
discussing things.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2003-September/msg00133.html
-jef
20 years, 7 months
Re: Fedora and the System Administrator
by Miguel M
William Hooper wrote 2003-10-02
>Seems to me if you buy a copy of RHEL in order to do this rebuild (as
>suggested) it would make more sense to just remove the non-distributable
>bits and install it on all your machines.
Which exactly are those non-distributable bits?
How does one remove them?
TNX
Miguel
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20 years, 7 months
Is the Print Support and OpenOffice Yes/No really honored
by Matheesha
Hi,
I am asking this as I've just seen that some are experiencing issues
with disabling the firewall. While I was installing Fedora Test 2 I
chose not to install printing support and yet cups is installed and is
active. Both Cups and the Cups libraries are installed. I am a newbie to
Linux so I am not sure if Cups was installed as it may be required for
some other reason. The same goes for Open Office. I chose not to install
any Office/Productivity apps and yet Open Office libraries are
installed.
Is this expected behaviour?
Thanks
M@
20 years, 7 months
Framebuffer Booting Problems...I think
by Met ＠ Uber
If I remember correctly from someone else's description somewhere, I'm
having frame buffer problems. I'm trying to install Fedora on my Dell
Inspiron 8200 which has successfully run RedHat 8 and 9. But when I
boot from the install CD my screen has funny lines drawn vertically all
across. It looks like my computer is in jail. I believe I have to pass
some sort of command into the boot sequence but I don't remember what or
when to do it, that will make everything run correctly.
Related specs:
- Dell Inspiron 8200
- 64MB Nvidia Card
- P4 2.0 Ghz
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
~ Matthew
20 years, 7 months
Status and Road Map
by Met ＠ Uber
Exactly how Beta is Fedora at the moment? Would it be fine to run as a
desktop, or should I just leave it alone period? The latest greatest
packages is what attracted me, but after reading the warning on boot I'm
a little worried. Will the full release of 1.0 in November be stable,
or still the same thing. I should also say that I'm not looking for
server stable, but at least something I can get some work done on
without it crashing daily. So basically, is this a possibility?
Thanks in advance,
~ Matthew
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20 years, 7 months
NVidia drivers cause Segmentation Faults in RH9 and Fedora Core beta
by Roberto J. Dohnert
Hello folks, I seem to have a long running problem here. Under RH9 I had
a major
problem with Segmentation Faults, everything I did would cause a
Segmentation Fault
(see Troubled RH9 in archives), XMMS OpenOffice. Now I have associated
this with
the older NVidia drivers I was using, but when I upgraded the drivers to
the most
recent ones it did not cure the problem, I did save my QT apps by
upgrading my QT
which I needed to do anyway and they work. Is there anyway to save
OpenOffice, xmms
just says segmentation fault, but Open Office RC 4 and 1.0.2 say this:
/usr/lib/tls/libGLcore.so.1 error: Line 697: Segmentation Fault : Aborting
XMMS I really could give two craps about but is there anyway to save Open
Office I
have tried to Reinstall these apps with no luck. The Nvidia driver is
version 4363
Now to the Fedora Core Team: With the Beta release of Fedora Core I have
the same
problem with NVidia drivers, and the additional problem is that the screen
will
splash the NVidia splash screen then all will go black and I have to do a
force
reboot. Once again upgrading thye NVidia drivers did not clear the
problem up.
Any suggestions would be helpful, if need be you can write me a private
e-mail.
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20 years, 7 months
No Nautilus Scripts
by Clifford Snow
I can not find Scripts in Nautilus 2.4.0-3. I've added scripts to
.gnome2/nautilus-scripts but I don't even get a menu choice for
scripts. (File - Open Scripts...)
Running 9.0.93 Severn
Is this a bug or am I missing some preference?
Thanks,
Clifford Snow
glass-art(a)comcast.net
20 years, 7 months
