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An official trademark policy for CheapBytes-type RHL CDs?
by James J. Ramsey 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

Way back when, it used to be that those who burned CD-Rs from the downloaded Red Hat Linux ISOs and sold them (i.e. CheapBytes) were allowed to refer to those CDs as "Red Hat Linux" just so long as they didn't refer to them as "Offical Red Hat Linux," a trademark reserved for Red Hat's retail distribution. For whatever reason, Red Hat stopped this practice, and now CheapBytes <http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart>, LinuxCD <http://www.linuxcd.org/view_item.php?id_version=236>, and OSDisc <http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/index.html> refer to their Red Hat CD-R by pseudonyms. Now as long as Red Hat sold CDs by retail, this was not such a bad situation. Those who didn't know that "Pink Tie," "Red Tux," and "Blue Jacket" were just Red Hat in disguise could simply buy their CDs from Red Hat, if downloading and burning the ISOs wasn't an option. However, with Red Hat now only making the ISOs available for download, the only ones who can provide CDs for those who can't make their own are CheapBytes and its ilk--and CheapBytes and its ilk are forbidden to call their Red Hat CDs by their true names. This is a recipe for confusion. IMHO, what is needed is some trademark policy that specifically allows CheapBytes, etc. to name future RHL CDs in a non-obfuscatory fashion, so that potential RHL users can actually *find* the CDs. Maybe a trademark specifically for CheapBytes and similar resellers, i.e. "Downloaded Red Hat Linux"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Red Hat 10
by Chuck Talk 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

"RedHat is actually leaving the "boxed distro" business as far as redhat 10 is concerned. This complies with the shift of the actual "user" distro's status which is now called "Red Hat Linux Project." You can read more about that and the shift of development power somewhere on redhat's site. If someone can provide the link I would be much obliged, I'm too tired to go digging." Thanks, I had read that on the http://rhl.redhat.com/ site, but the content went away. I am just wondering if we can get CD's somehow other than through a download that will be signed by Red Hat without violating their copyright or whatever. I notice a lot of posting about Cheap Bytes, and I know that Europe is doing doing Red Hat Magazine (I saw it on a European Red Hat site once - have to go checking again). "RedHat is basically going to focus on selling their enterprise line of stuff while drawing on the base distro as a source of packages and advancements. Basically, the new distro is gonna be like the testing grounds for the new technology to be included into the enterprise line. ISO's will still be available for the distro for download from the usual mirrors. As far as redhat magazine I know nothing about that. Hope I was of some help." Yes, you were. My family just gets ticked when I download ISO's (I make them get off the net connection). If Red Hat burns or blesses the burns of the ISOs anywhere - then that is okay too, I suppose. I know that several other vendors are staying in the stores, but I would like to say - hey! I would subsribe to a Red Hat Linux Project magazine (especially if they had like quarterly updates and such on DVD - hint! hint!). Thanks again Jack. Much oliged, Chuck -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Upcoming Redhat 10 (or whatever it will be called)
by Chuck Talk 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Okay, I have read news stories saying Red Hat will be leaving the retail distro channel. Can someone clarify if this is true? It would not bother me so much, but will it also mean the end of the boxed set? Will Red Hat go with a magazine style subsription as they are doing in Europe (I believe - my German and Italian are not perfect, so I am only guessing that RedHat Magazine is run by Red Hat)? Does anyone know the answers? Just want to know what to do when Severn becomes the next version. Sincerely, Chuck Talk Man does not plan to fail, he simply fails to plan. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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/usr boot time dependencies
by Paul Jakma 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

hi, i've noticed the following: [paul@fogarty paul]$ which id /usr/bin/id [paul@fogarty paul]$ which uniq /usr/bin/uniq [paul@fogarty paul]$ rpm -ql tcp_wrappers | grep libwrap.so /usr/lib/libwrap.so /usr/lib/libwrap.so.0 /usr/lib/libwrap.so.0.7.6 The problem with this is that: - id and uniq are required by init scripts, eg to setup IPv6 in the network init script, and portmap init script requires it too. - portmap resides in /bin but links to libwrap.so - which is in /usr/lib and may not be available. so would it be possible for: - the coreutils package to /truely/ be core, ie everything it installs should be either to /bin or /sbin. If needs be it should be pruned of utils which are not really core. - tcp_wrappers to install to /lib, not /usr/lib. This is a fairly important library, why is it installed to /usr/lib? thanks (from someone who boots machines from NFS, with /usr as a seperate export). regards, -- Paul Jakma paul(a)clubi.ie paul(a)jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A warning: do not ever send email to spam(a)dishone.st Fortune: Maternity pay? Now every Tom, Dick and Harry will get pregnant. -- Malcolm Smith

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unrecognized mount option nodev
by Alvin Smith 16 Aug '03

16 Aug '03

I am running RH9. When mounting smb filesystems I receive the message "unrecognized mount option nodev". Sometimes, but not always, the computer hangs at this point during boot. Does anyone know what might cause this? Thank you. -- Alvin Smith <email(a)alvinsmith.com>

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Gnucash:
by Larry Chisholm 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

Is there anyone out here that uses this program? I see Severn has 1.8.4 and I was having problems with 1.8.1 in rel 9 If I could I would like to talk to you in an e-mail exchange for how to get several reports to work. I have Severn running and so far those things that I use on a single work station are ok. Thank You. Larry Chisholm "A Man of True Leisure" larrychisholm(a)comcast.net

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DVD ISOs for next RHEL/RHLP releases?
by James Ralston 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

Has Red Hat made a decision as to whether the next releases of RHEL and RHLP will be made available as DVD ISO images (in addition to the standard multiple-disc CD ISO images)? DVD-R, DVD-RW, and DVD+RW burners are getting pretty inexpensive nowadays. If I had a reason to expect that the next RHEL/RHLP releases would be available as DVD ISO images, I'd go evaluate some burners... Thanks, -- James Ralston, Information Technology Software Engineering Institute Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA

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Numlock on at boot/ X startup
by Charles Bronson 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

Is RedHat planning on adding the option of having the Numlock on at boot and/or when Gnome starts up? I know KDE has an preference setting for this and Mandrake has an RPM to handle it. Maybe it is a topic for kernel developers and the Gnome team but RH has spent so much time on the usability that I was hoping they would come up with a fix if the separate developer groups weren't. Thank you. -- (¬_ Some days you're the windshield >o) //\ Some days you're the bug... /\\ V_/_ _\_V Charles Bronson

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RedHat9 unable to print on W2k share.
by Klaus Zahradnik 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

Hy guys! I am about to loose my sanity. I have a notebook, which I carry between work and home. At home I have a W2k Workstation which shares a HP840c printer. This one works like a charme. No porblems. At work however, I have a W2k machine sharing a Brother HL1030. I have no chance of printing on this printer. All the other workstations (W2k) are able to print on it. I double checked share settings, username, passwords... you name it. I can connect to the printer via smbclient manually by doing: smbclient //192.168.21.103/hl1030 -P -U klaus But when I try to configure the printer with the gnome gui thing, I always get the error: unable to connect to samba host, retryin in 60 seconds... I did set the logging of cups to debug, and attached the /var/log/cups/error_log as a gzipped file to this eMail. I hope somebody has some ideas..... Thanks in advance, Klaus

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[Fwd: Severn kernel on Red Hat 9]
by Ian Pilcher 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

Has anyone managed to get Red Hat 9 working with the Severn kernel(s)? I would really like to use the i686 SMP kernel, since it fixes an IRQ routing bug and allows the system to recognize my USB scanner and printer (without any performance-sucking workarounds). Unfortunately, the RH9 X server segfaults when I try to run it on top of the Severn kernel (XFree86-4.3.0-2, mga driver). Any ideas? Thanks! -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher(a)comcast.net ========================================================================

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