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Fedora Extras is extra
by William M. Quarles 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

OK, someone pointed this out to me: <http://www.fedora.us/wiki/RepositoryMixingProblems> Join us or we'll start reproducing your software in your place anyways. Does this not scream arrogance, bureacracy, and monopoly to anybody else? Does this not seem very Microsoft-ish? Can you actually expect to have a single community to maintain every single piece of free software for Fedora Core (talk about a super bloat to the Fedora Project)? Doesn't this seem to go against some of the good things about free software? It seems that a set of extra libraries and applications that aren't "Core" but are still fundamental or very widely used should be the focus of Fedora Extras. Basically, take some software that is very redundantly distributed by other repositories to reduce overlap and increase compatibility, and not try to take over every package that every other repository makes. Discuss... William

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Iptables and logging to the console
by Robert Spangler 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Hi, How can I stop Iptables logging to the console? I don't know where else to look. Below are my sysctl.conf and syslog.conf files Thanks for your help ########################################### Here's my sysctl.conf: # Kernel sysctl configuration file for Red Hat Linux # # For binary values, 0 is disabled, 1 is enabled. See sysctl(8) and # sysctl.conf(5) for more details. # Controls IP packet forwarding net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 # Controls source route verification net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 1 # Controls the System Request debugging functionality of the kernel kernel.sysrq = 0 # Controls whether core dumps will append the PID to the core filename. # Useful for debugging multi-threaded applications. kernel.core_uses_pid = 1 # Stop logging to the console kernel.printk = 3 4 1 7 ########################################### ########################################### Here's my syslog.conf: # Log all kernel messages to the console. # Logging much else clutters up the screen. #kern.* /dev/console #kern.* /var/log/messages # Log anything (except mail) of level info or higher. # Don't log private authentication messages! *.info;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none;cron.none /var/log/messages # The authpriv file has restricted access. authpriv.* /var/log/secure # Log all the mail messages in one place. mail.* /var/log/maillog # Log cron stuff cron.* /var/log/cron # Everybody gets emergency messages #*.emerg * *.emerg /var/log/messages # Save news errors of level crit and higher in a special file. uucp,news.crit /var/log/spooler # Save boot messages also to boot.log local7.* /var/log/boot.log # # INN # news.=crit /var/log/news/news.crit news.=err /var/log/news/news.err news.notice /var/log/news/news.notice ########################################### -- Regards Robert Smile... it increases your face value

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FC3 -- KDE CDROM, xmodmap and pilot-xfer
by Malcolm Cowe 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

I took the plunge and upgraded from RH7.3 to FC3 last week, and I have to say it's been a bit of a mixed bag. So far, there remain 3 issues which I cannot resolve satisfactorily. I've been using RH since 4.2, and this is the first time that I have been left with an operating environment that is unable to do all of the things I normally expect of it. I have FC2 on my laptop and it's working great, but this FC3 installation has left me feeling uncomfortable. Not even the Tao of Yum can restore absolute calm. To clarify the platform a little, I chose a fresh installation of FC3 on a brand new [Seagate] HDD. My computer is a generic P3 Tualitin based system with an Asus motherboard. Very standard stuff and has worked very well under RH7.3. The only non-standard component is the keyboard, which is a UK Macintosh USB keyboard. Issue 1: The first problem I encountered is that under KDE, and only under KDE, I cannot access the CDROM device. A dialogue box labeled "Error - kio_devices_mounthelper" returns the following: mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrecorder busy Please check that the disk is entered correctly. From within the KDE session, opening a terminal and mounting the device manually returns the same error. But log out, and log back in using GNOME and all is well. Similarly, logging out of KDE and choosing a command line login from which to issue the mount command also works. So now we don't use KDE. I'm not heartbroken, but it is annoying and unnecessary. Issue 2: Xmodmap doesn't work reliably. As stated earlier, I use a UK Macintosh keyboard. Yes, on my x86 computer. Under RH, to get this to work properly required some entries in /etc/X11/Xmodmap. Specifically, my Xmodmap file contains: ! Euro sign support keycode 26 = e E currency keycode 54 = c C cent keycode 113 = Mode_switch Mode_switch Multi_key keycode 11 = 2 at EuroSign ! Hash (#) symbol for Mac UK Keyboard keycode 12 = 3 sterling numbersign ! Mac Extended Keyboard Keys keycode 165 = XF86AudioLowerVolume keycode 158 = XF86AudioRaiseVolume keycode 166 = XF86AudioMute keycode 93 = XF86Launch0 keycode 123 = XF86Launch1 keycode 127 = XF86Launch2 keycode 128 = XF86Launch3 keycode 116 = XF86Eject This allows the use of all of the extra keys on the keyboard. The UK keyboard is quite idiosyncratic; for example it does not have a "#" symbol (the convention is to assign alt-3 to #). X11 xkb support for the UK (gb) keyboard is inadequate, but I am quite content to hack around with the keymaps to get the result I want. But this does not work under FC3. If I log in, bring up a terminal and run xmodmap /etc/X11/Xmodmap, sometimes it will work, sometimes it will segfault. Sometimes it will return the following: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption: 0x09790868 *** Aborted Under no circumstances that I can induce will xmodmap successfully load the key mappings when invoked as part of Xsession. I have tried using Option "XkbDisable" as well as manually inserting the xmodmap command into the Xsession script, with no success. This is a real shame, since xmodmap is widely used, easy to understand and permits experimentation and hacking. Plus it's been around for a while. That said, I have tried to hack together an xkb configuration for the macintosh gb keyboard. What a horrid system of files. So far, I've got the following for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh/gb: // $XConsortium: gb /main/3 1996/08/31 12:19:51 kaleb $ // $XFree86: xc/programs/xkbcomp/symbols/gb,v 3.3 1996/12/23 07:13:25 dawes Exp $ partial default alphanumeric_keys xkb_symbols "basic" { // Describes the differences between a very simple en_US // keyboard and a very simple U.K. keyboard layout name[Group1]= "Great Britain"; key <AE02> { [ 2, at ], [ EuroSign ] }; key <AE03> { [ 3, sterling ], [ numbersign ] }; key <LSGT> { [ quoteleft, asciitilde ] }; key <KPEQ> { [ KP_Equal ] }; // key <KPEQ> { [ equal ] }; // End alphanumeric section key <RALT> { [ Mode_switch, Multi_key ] }; modifier_map Mod3 { Mode_switch }; include "apple(extended)" }; I can't get everything to work yet. The multimedia keys are not included, and nothing I've tried will induce the keypad equals key to work (although xev does find it). More importantly, control-alt-F1 does not elicit a virtual console (although control-alt-del does bring up the logout dialogue, and control-alt-backspace kills the server). ctl-alt-+ does nothing. Also, I've noticed that combinations such as ctl-shift-A does not work (I use this in thunderbird as a matter of routine, so this is vexing). Issue 3: pilot-xfer doesn't work. I have read that this may be due to a problem with kernel 2.6.9-1.681_FC3, but what a pain. The program just hangs after 2 or 3 seconds and the handheld hotsync software times out.

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Configure initial wallpapers
by Patrick 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Does anybody know how to configure the initial wallpapers of Fedora 3? Is there a way I can determine which wallpapers will or will not be visible to the users? In other words, where is the "original" wallpaper-list stored?? _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

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Question on /media mount points
by Alan 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Since the introduction of sysfs and udev and whateverdev the system now creates a bunch of mount points automagically. I have a friend who wants to rename these but they vanish after reboot. The devices are pointing to actual ide devices in fstab, but instead of: /media/cdrecorder he wants /media/dvd-burner /media/cdrecorder1 he wants /media/cd-burner /media/cdrom he wants /media/dvd-rom I am not finding the config information for this anywhere. Any ideas how these mount points are determined and/or created? -- 'This message has not been made with the consent or cooperation of the Federal Board of Regulations (F.B.R.) or the Central Enquires Agency (C.E.A.). Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental, and so forth and so on.

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FC2 to FC3 upgrade exits abnormally
by Rick Lim 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

I'm trying to upgrade a working FC2 to FC3, having got past the first error where the harddisk geometry was read wrong by using the parted update, I get to the point where it starts to begin the install and then I get warning: package kernel = 2.6.9-1.667 was already added. Replacing with kernel = 2.6.9-1.667 install exited abnormally. Any suggestions?

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Re: xawtv: no audio sound
by Raffi Khatchadourian 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Jim Higson wrote: >On Tuesday 30 Nov 2004 13:09, you wrote: > > >>Yeah, it seems that the sound is not being generated in the xawtv >>application. Upon startup, yes, the sound mixer is usually muted or down >>to 0. When muted, I am not able to hear the "channel" clicking sound. >>When I turn up the slider, unfortunately, that is all I hear when I >>change the channels. >> >> > >Just to make sure the tv card is ok, have you tried connecting it directly to >your speakers? If it's making clicking noises and nothing else, I'd try >debugging there. > >Of course it depends what kind of set up you have, I'm assuming it's like mine >where the tv card decodes the audio and sends it via an external cable to the >sound card, which really just acts as an analogue volume control (no >processing done by card or application). Digital DV might be different. > > Hmm ... I have not tried connecting directly to my speakers. I plugged a walkman into the line-in jack on my sound blaster card and it worked fine so I just assumed that wasn't the problem. I will try that tho. How would I go about debugging there? Is there any options to debug with xawtv? If so, what would I look for? Yes, I do have that setup where an external cable that runs into the sound card. I do not have the DV card.

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PS2 Keyboard and mouse dead in FC3 on Dell Precision 530
by J. Epperson 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Sent this last night, but my registration was apparently not complete and it did not go to the list (not in archive, anyway)> The i get an error when booting FC3 on a Dell Precision 530 ("i8042.c: Can't read CTR while initializing i8042"). The keyboard and mouse are then "dead" from there on--can't press a key and trigger kudzu before the timeout, can't type a username/password on the X11 login screen, etc. Odd, since they both worked fine all the way through a graphical install, just not with the resulting kernel config. Reading suggests apci/apic problem in i8042.c code, I've tried the suggested noapic and noacpi kernel line parms, but nothing's working. I did include SELinux in "warn" mode in the install, FWIW. Installed FC1, and everything worked ok. Will try FC1-->FC3 upgrade tonight. Suggestions welcome. --jake

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sendmail howto?
by Trevor Smith 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Can anyone point me to a sendmail howto that will work? I tried googling "sendmail howto" and followed the instructions for the standalone user on the first link found but it does not make sendmail work for me. (The symptom is that sendmail receives messages but apparently does not send any messages out anywhere -- I get no errors, but I can't send a message to myself at my email hosting provider and have it actually get back to me, for example.) I *can* send a message to mysefl at localhost and sendmail receives *that*. And I can use fetchmail to retrieve mail from my mail hosting provider and fetchmail delivers it to sendmail on my system, which I can then use to retrieve it into KMail. But I can't for the life of me, figure out how to get sendmail on my system to accept email from the command line ('mail -s ...') or from KMail and have that message actually get delivered anywhere other than localhost. I set the MASQUERADE_AS(`haligonian.com')dnl and FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl stuff in the sendmail.mc file and processed it into a sendmail.cf file and restarted sendmail before trying. No luck. What else am I missing? -- Trevor Smith // trevor(a)haligonian.com

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xawtv: no audio sound
by Raffi Khatchadourian 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

I am experiencing problems with xawtv on Fedora Core 3 with an ATI All In Wonder 8500. I am able to receive TV video, however, with no sound. The line-in on my sound card is operational and it seems that the program itself is not outputting audio. Has anyone experienced similar problems?

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