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Sylpheed-Claws: how to continue getting a mail from a connection break?
by Strong 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

Sometimes when getting my mail from a server, the last one breaks the connection so that after some time when I try to get it again, the Sylpheed-Claws-1.9.15-1.fc4 gets the downloaded messages again. I want to reduce the traffic, so don't want that that be the case. Tell me please how I can do that? Thank You. -- Best regards, Strong.

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KDE missing menu entries
by Sergey 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

KDE menu system (XDG, legacy) seems to be complicated and all messed up. Browsing /etc/xdg/menus/*.menu XMLs I still can't get now the menu items are sorted. For example, Why Amusement applications are completely missing from KDE menu? This item has /usr/share/applications/kde/amor.desktop has Categories=Qt;KDE;Amusement;, however it is not shown anywhere. Changing Amusement to, for example, Utility makes it appear in menu. kteatime is another example. One more. Amarok won't start when called from KDE multimedia control applet. Having spent a week I have figured out that it's started up via a dcop start call (seems to be so). The dcop call is performed with the app name "amarok". However the amarok desktop application link is "fedora-amarok", thus it can't be found and started. A workaround is to rename /usr/share/applications/kde/fedora-amarok.desktop. Now it is started up well. So the question is: how do I make the lost items appear in KDE menu, without manually adding each. Sergey.

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How to put shell script to Makefile
by Gavin Li 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

I have a script like this: KNL_VER=2.6.9 echo ${KNL_VER) | cut -c -3 if [ $? == "2.6"] ; then Make -f Makefile else Make -f Makefile-2.4 endif How can I put in make file?

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RE: theoretical question - can root's username be changed?
by Nix, Robert P. 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 9:36 PM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: theoretical question - can root's username be changed? On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 21:46 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: > On Thu December 1 2005 9:31 pm, Mike McCarty wrote: > > Claude Jones wrote: > > > Subject line says it all... > ---- > Best to save feeble attempts of security through obscurity for Windows. > >Create another user and you can set that user's uid to 0 if you wish. Practical experiences: First, our Unix team maintains uid 0 accounts for all the team members on each Unix / Linux / AIX box we support. Many actions can be taken during system installs or problems via these accounts, and we retain some accountability for who has been on the box touching things. Also, we each have our own password, so if the root password is changed for some reason and we don't all know about it, we can still get in and do some (possibly all) of our work. Note that having multiple uid 0 users will, in itself, break some things. SuSE's user maintenance program will not tolerate multiple users having the same uid (0 or otherwise). The way we've gotten around that is by using LDAP authentication, and defining the additional uid 0 users in LDAP. This way SuSE's tool does not see the "error". Some vended products MUST be installed via root (not another uid 0 account). Something in the install checks for root, and aborts the install if using some other userid. Others must run as root. The su - command is specific to the root userid. You can su to other uid 0 users, but you have to specify the userid to do it. So if you removed root, then you've removed the ability to use the "su -" command. Last, here's an appeal to any and all vendors / authors of products: Please design your product / application so that it does not need root. Certainly not to run, and preferably not to install. I know that it's tempting to do the install as root, so that you can do everything you need to, without any manual intervention on the part of the installer, but that means that the person doing the install must have root privilege, and we'd prefer to allow the people in charge of the application be able to do the install. I'm willing to create the userids the app needs, and set up accesses, but I don't want to have to be present for every application install done on my systems. It takes up my time, and is unnecessary, other than the fact that you want to install via root. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation RO-OC-1-13 (new loc) 200 First Street SW 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ----- "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."

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RE: MYSQL GUI -
by Kaplan, Andrew H. 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

Hi there -- If you have Webmin installed, its servers section has a web-based gui for administrating MySQL. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of bobgoodwin Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 5:16 AM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: MYSQL GUI - Can anyone recommend a gui front end for mysql? Bob Goodwin Zuni, Virginia -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

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WebCam OpenSource or Free Software?
by Dan Thurman 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

Hi Folks, Does anyone have any suggestions for WebCam software, opensourced or free? I am thinking about creating the software myself but I wanted to see if there are other people doing it already. So far, I have looked at: 1) FWink 2) WebCam2000 3) Many others but I have not looked at them all.... But these support rather rudimentary things and I need to have more "bells and whistles" as outlined in the following paragraphs. I am currently using webcam32 which is/was a really good product for what I wanted to do, but for the most part it is now legacy and not really supported anymore unless I wanted to pay big-bucks to upgrade. A company has purchased the webcam32 software from Kolban and their stuff is not cheap for what I wanted to do. What I am interested in is the following features: 1) Support for many cameras. I have an old winnov that supports up to 3 cameras on a framegrabber card so this particular one is seen as ONE camera from Windows point of view, but I can use a proprientary dll to switch the cameras and change built-in properties. I guess support different cameras and cards here might be a bit difficult but anyway it might be a fun project. 2) Supports streaming, so that independent systems w/ cameras on them can stream the data to whatever site that queries it. Can be directed to a webpage for streaming or single frame capture. 3) Support for full-axis camera movement for cameras that support it. 4) Has security features; the ability to compare frames at high-speed to "motion detect" as a percentage of change from 1% to 99% Maybe there is other security features that can be done but this is one that I know about supported on webcam32 from Kolban 5) Support for FTP, dialup, multi-file formats (jpg,giff,?) and whatever useful things that are nice even if not absolutely necessary? I use the FTP so that the data can be moved into a secured central fileserver and filenames are auto-managed. I am sure there could be more that can be added than the list above, but I think the project will need to start with a basic framework and keep it simple and then add little by little as it evolves. Thanks! Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 12/1/2005

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MYSQL GUI -
by bobgoodwin 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

Can anyone recommend a gui front end for mysql? Bob Goodwin Zuni, Virginia

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username/uid restrictions
by Terry Horsnell 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

'morning all, I see from my new RHEL4 sysadmin guide that uid's up to 500 are reserved for system use. When I first began setting up my Unix userbase some 15 years ago, I unfortunately chose to start at uid 100, so I now have to change the uid's of some 400 users, 36 million files, on a hundred or so boxes. OK, this is do-able and should be more-or-less 'transparent to the user'. (Since I'm going to make a change, should I start at 1000 and change the lot? How reliable is the 500?) The thing that concerns me more, is the plethora of reserved usernames. There seems to be no rule to distinguish a reserved username (presumably the list in the RHEL sysadmin guide is going to grow) and its only a matter of time before some newly allocated name collides with one which has been given to a user. In fact, I cant find anywhere what the rules are for usernames. Character-set? How many chars? Pity that reserved names arent systematic in some way (like always starting with sys_ or somesuch). I'm not looking forward to the day when a new system-username duplicates the username of one of the directors, which he has had for the last 15 years, and which is also his email address held on mailing lists and institutions all over the place... Any advice out there? Cheers, Terry.

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RE: basic operations
by Welty, Richard 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

Craig White writes: >On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 20:33 +0200, Phet Whore Meyer wrote: >> Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query >> for now: >> In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', >> in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called? >---- >/usr/bin er, sort of, but not really. for files that are a core part of a distribution, well, yes. outside of that, you're more likely to see files being added to /usr/local/bin for very sound reasons. and then, of course, there are /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, and a few others. for software that presumes a solaris model, you may see /opt as the root location, although this isn't very common in linux environments (however, /opt is a standard location for add on systems for Mac OS X users running darwinports, but then, that's not linux). this is only for executables that are supposed to be runnable from the shell; you may also find executables in other locations (/usr/lib, /usr/libexec, etc.) that aren't supposed to be directly invoked by users. richard

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RE: basic operations
by Nix, Robert P. 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

There are several acceptable places, and many more that aren't quite so. /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/<productid> would be acceptable. Many products install in /opt/<productid>. I have teams installing to /apps/<productid>. The bottom line is that there is no single magic place. Some things install to /usr/bin, but this could make applying maintenance an issue. You should also note that c:\Program files is also just a convention. Many Windows products don't go anywhere near that path, choosing to create their own. Most (many?) Windows products also ask you where you want them to install, so things could drift away from the Program files directory this way as well. Hope this helps. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation RO-OC-1-13 (new loc) 200 First Street SW 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ----- "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Phet Whore Meyer Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:33 PM To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com Subject: basic operations To whom it may concern, Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called? I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this? I greatly appreciate the help. Best Greg _________________________________________________________________ MSN South Africa has a brand new face - visit us today! http://za.msn.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

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