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evolution
by Edward Beranek 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

Howdy, Was trying to configure Evolution to use port 587, which is the messaging port ESMTP, for TLS SMTP. Could not locate anything in the Documentation, except for pop which indicated just using a colon and typing in the port number after the address. Tried this for sending, it did not seem to work. Checked the firewall (iptables) and that was not blocking. Tried mail on macos x, eudora, thunderbird, and outlook express. All worked for that port from these other systems, same subnet. Tried to use bug buddy to see if there was anything about this, but it reported that it did not have any information about evolution or mail. Anyone have any luck specifying the messaging port for this software? (for TLS) I must be missing something here, but so far I cannot find what it is. Ed Beranek

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Kudzu question under FC4
by Alessandro Brezzi 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

Hi all, I've just upgraded my FC3 x86_64 to FC4 and I've found a different behavior in kudzu. I swap the SATA disk from two different machine (both AMD64, MSI/NVIDIA and ASUS/ATI MoBo/graphic card with VIA KT800 Chipset) and in FC3, after the boot, Kutzu reported the differences, mainly the graphic card. Now under FC4 Kudzu seem not to do the work, at least for the graphic card, so I've to manually redo the configuration. Where, except man pages, can I find informations/howto for the current version of kudzu? TIA -- Alessandro Brezzi

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Remote GUI
by azeem ahmad 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

hi list. like i use ssh to login to my RHEL4 systems on a terminal. which program is there which provides a remote GUI of my machine Regards Azeem _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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(no subject)
by Császár Péter 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

Is there someone can help on what ports I should open on my firewall to enable outgoing to mail clients on my home net? Although I better would like to enable it using squid proxy if it is probable. Thanks, Cs. Peter -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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Re: Best/energy efficient CPU/Chipset/Motherboard for 64bit Fedora?
by dondi_2006 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

James wrote: > At least my Asus NF4 motherboard seems to support everything > with Open Source software. Everything I need, anyway. which board/chipset exactly? And what is not supported, even if you don't use it? Also thanks for all your other useful advice, Webber

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]OT] http-authorization:
by Don Russell 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

Please forgive the OT nature of this, but I've spent a lot of time googling etc and have found nothing. Perhaps someone here knows the answer, or can point me in the right direction. I have a web appl that uses status code 401 (authorization required) to challenge the user for an id/password. The client then responds with the http-authorization header etc. All is well. But, I want to make a more 'friendly' log on page: So, my server sends a page with status 200 (OK) with a simple form with two fields: userid/password. (The rest of the page content is the friendly fluff, not relevant to my problem) In that case, when the user presses the submit button, the client doesn't build the http-authorization: header (because it doesn't know it should) Is there a way (using javascript?) to tell a web browser (client) to build a specific header? This needs to work with MS IE6, and I'd LIKE it to work with FireFox... I need to have the client send the http-authorization: Basic B64-encoded-uid:pwd header. I can do the encoding "manually" in a script if there are no "built-in" encoding methods... but how do I actually get the client to include a specific request-header? Thank you, Don

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FC4 Pine replacement?
by Devon Harding 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

Is there a replacement for Pine on FC4? Alternatives?

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Re: Best/energy efficient CPU/Chipset/Motherboard for 64bit Fedora?
by dondi_2006 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

James wrote > I wrote: > > At least my Asus NF4 motherboard seems to support everything > > with Open Source software. Everything I need, anyway. >[it is] a A8N-SLI ATX motherboard (which won't fit your case), > with a NForce 4 SLI chipset. > [...] I have seen (and used under Windows) a micro-ATX > version of this board... it looks like > http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=0&model=768&modelmenu=1 > is the current equivalent Thanks James, I'm looking at the specs right now. The only things missing are a DVI output (that is, need to buy extra graphic card which would create more cooling problems) and I have to figure out if SATA II is supported and how under Linux for this board (feedback appreciated!), but seems promising. Later, Webber

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FC4 booting problem?
by under.actuate＠gmail.com 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

Hello, I'm wondering if anyone could help me with an issue. Here's some detail. 2 hard drives: - The first is dedicated to Windows XP. - The second is partitioned so that Fedora Core 4 is at the front and extra space is given for Windows at the back. While I installed FC4, I made sure to set FC4 as the default boot. So I expected it to boot after the system was rebooted. But, Windows automatically boots. Do you have any ideas what the problem could be? Why would Windows automatically boot? And how do I access the GRUB GUI to choose between FC4 and Windows? I would really appreciate some help. Thank you, Jared

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Re: Disk defragmenter in Linux
by David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) 02 Jan '06

02 Jan '06

mike.mccarty(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> John Summerfied wrote: >> >>> Jeff Vian wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Exactly, and IIRC the filesystem knows that if it needs X amount of >>>> space for a file, then Y number of inodes are marked for use for that >>>> file at the beginning. Thus space allocated is as contiguous as is >>>> efficient for read/write on the disk. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> If "the filesystem knows that if it needs X amount of space for a >>> file," that implies there's a way of telling it that. >>> >>> How's that done? I don't recall any system call for *x (there is one >>> for OS/2), and one could do it in JCL in IBM's OS in the 60s), but >>> in the *x world I've never seen a way to do it. >> >> >> >> >> Since the discussions regarding fragmentation on ext3 filesystems was >> pretty long running. I decided to try >> filefrag /usr/bin/* |sort |grep 'would be' >> and the output showed a lot of fragmentation. One of the files was up >> to 45. > > > On my system I did this... > > # filefrag /usr/bin/* | sort -k2 -nr | grep 'would be' > > Here're the first few entries... > > /usr/bin/emacs: 248 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/emacs-21.3: 248 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/kermit: 80 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/kbabel: 45 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/ddd: 45 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/gthumb: 41 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/gdbtui: 36 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/elinks: 30 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/iniomega: 22 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/kpersonalizer: 21 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/artsd: 21 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/artscat: 20 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/kiconedit: 19 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/glade-2: 19 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/karm: 18 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/dia: 18 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/designer3: 18 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/designer: 18 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/kppplogview: 16 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/kfontinst: 16 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/civclient-xaw: 15 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/cdrecord: 15 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent > /usr/bin/knewstickerstub: 14 extents found, perfection would be 1 ext > > Surely those who argue that ext3 does not get fragmented > during install don't think that 248 extents is "not > significant fragmentation". > > I assure you that I have done nothing on my system to try to > fragment emacs. > > Mike > -- > p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} > This message made from 100% recycled bits. > You have found the bank of Larn. > I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. > I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! > > Yes, but... [root@bend ~]# filefrag /bin/* | sort -k2 -nr | grep 'would be' /bin/netstat: 2 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent /bin/login: 2 extents found, perfection would be 1 extent Files that are frequently updated will often have some level of fragmentation. Files that are relatively unchanged tend to be in a single extent. Also, the stuff in /bin will generally be small, tight, command line programs. A quick perusal of those listed in your example shows a number of graphical interface programs that are anything but small and don't even get me started about the size of emacs (the probability of change to a program is very directly related to the size of the program). Cheers, Dave

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