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display differences between files in different servers
by Rilawich Ango 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi, As I know, command diff can use to find the differences between files in the same server. Is it possible to compare files in different servers? ango

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maya and fedora 6
by Thibaut 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi I would like to use maya and fedora 6. The website just mention fedora 5. http://www.alias.com/eng/support/maya/qualified_hardware/QUAL/ maya_85_linux.html#os Does anyone tried it with fedora 6 ? Thibaut

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Xeon Core 5130 couldn't support full-virtualization?
by Zhen Zhou 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi, lists, Now I dive the sea of xen, I took a Dell 2950 Server, install FC 6 i386 on it, I refer some documents about Xen: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstartFC6 So i checked as following: 1. check Intel VM for host CPU, it works, it showed me: flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm 2. check hvm-??, then I have no luck. even I enable virtualization in BIOS. so how could I enable fully-virtualizied in this server? or should I install x86_64 for it? Because this server CPU is Intel Xeon Core 5130 serial. Thanks a lot, Zhou Zhen

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compiz and scim are fighting for my keyboard
by Sam Varshavchik 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Compiz uses CTRL-ALT-arrows to switch virtual desktops. scim's default configuration uses CTRL-ALT-arrows to switch input methods. Who gets the bug? I'm leaning towards compiz for two reasons: 1) scim appears to have seniority. compiz is a relative newcomer. 2) although scim's keys are customizable, compiz's are not. compiz needs to be more configurable.

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Re: MMS streams
by Dotan Cohen 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

On 01/03/07, replies-lists-a1z2-redhat(a)listmail.innovate.net <replies-lists-a1z2-redhat(a)listmail.innovate.net> wrote: > > > ------------ Original Message ------------ > > Date: Thursday, March 01, 2007 05:38:26 PM +0100 > > From: Andras Simon <szajmi(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: MMS streams > > > > On 3/1/07, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Has anybody gotten MMS streams to play on FC6? I need to view video > >> lectures from my university, but I cannot play the streams. The test > >> page is here, if anybody wants to try it: > >> http://video.technion.ac.il/Setup/Tester/test-index.html > > > > Just a shot in the dark: > > > > Are you sure the machine hosting that video is up? > > $ mplayer rtsp://video9.technion.ac.il/test/algebra-491.wmv > > [...] > > Resolving video9.technion.ac.il for AF_INET... > > Connecting to server video9.technion.ac.il[132.68.1.27]: 554... > > > > (mplayer sits here for a while, and eventually gives up). > > > > $ traceroute 132.68.1.27 > > [...] > > 15 technion-gp0-cel-g.ilan.net.il (128.139.233.2) 140.018 ms > > 143.637 ms 148.724 ms > > 16 * * * > > 17 * * * > > and so on. > > > > Andras > > right -- with mms:// you should get a server response on a telnet to > port 1755, or port 80 (for fallback). that machine isn't responding to > either so would appear to either not be up or be firewalled. > > [as a general note, i have no problem using mplayer to stream mms://, > assuming that the server is properly configured.] The regular class videos are accessable only from within the university, but as I understand it the test cases should be accessable from outside. I've no no way to verify that, though. It wouldn't surprise me if the server was down. Again. :) That's what happens when they try to run a server on a Microsoft operating system :) On Sunday (a regular week day here) I'll give it another shot, using the methods described in the article linked by Nigel. Assuming that the server is operational by then. In the meantime, I'm still open for advice. Thanks! Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/96/321/madonna/i_m_breathless.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/fedora_core.html

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fglrx question
by Gene Heskett 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

Greetings; Warning, fglrx newbie here. I've been running the kernels radeon drivers for the last 3 years since my last nvidia card took a crap and took the motherboard with it. I've downloaded and installed the current ati drivers for my third party (VisionTek I think) ati 9200SE 128mb card. Unforch, its running at about 1/4 the speed I can get from the kernels radeon drivers. kernel is 2.6.20-ck1, ati-agp and nvidia-agp are compiled in but this made no difference. There is also an ati-agp module loaded according to lsmod. DRM and DRI refuse to initialize. So the Xorg.0.log has this: ----------------------- (II) LoadModule: "fglrx" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc." (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:0:1) found (II) fglrx(0): pEnt->device->identifier=0x8217610 (II) fglrx(0): === [R200PreInit] === begin, [s] (II) fglrx(0): PCI bus 2 card 0 func 0 (**) fglrx(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (II) fglrx(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) (==) fglrx(0): Default visual is TrueColor (**) fglrx(0): Option "DPMS" "true" (==) fglrx(0): RGB weight 888 (II) fglrx(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) (==) fglrx(0): Gamma Correction for I is 0x06419064 (==) fglrx(0): Gamma Correction for II is 0x06419064 (==) fglrx(0): Buffer Tiling is ON (II) fglrx(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (--) fglrx(0): Chipset: "RADEON 9250/9200 Series (RV280 5964)" (Chipset = 0x5964) (--) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x1545, PciSubDevice = 0x7c13) (--) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter - NOT original ATI (--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xd8000000 (--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xe9000000 (==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c0000 (II) fglrx(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Version 2.0 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 16384 kB (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI RADEON 9200 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: V280 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00 (WW) fglrx(0): Failed to open DRM connection (--) fglrx(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kByte, Type: DDR SGRAM / SDRAM (II) fglrx(0): AGP card detected (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported (II) fglrx(0): Connected Display1: CRT on primary DAC (II) fglrx(0): Display1 EDID data --------------------------- (II) fglrx(0): Manufacturer: XXX Model: 1996 Serial#: 69590637 (II) fglrx(0): Year: 2005 Week: 30 (II) fglrx(0): EDID Version: 1.1 (II) fglrx(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V -------- then near the end, this: -------- [root@coyote ~]# grep '(WW)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (WW) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout. (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (WW) Warning, couldn't open module ati-agp (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:0:1) found (WW) fglrx(0): Failed to open DRM connection (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported (WW) fglrx(0): *********************************************** (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available * (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* * (WW) fglrx(0): Option "VendorName" is not used (WW) fglrx(0): Option "ModelName" is not used (WW) <default pointer>: No Device specified, looking for one... The question is what kernel module? The /etc/X11/xorg.conf was generated with 'aticonfig --initial' from a tty console. I've added drm and ati-agp to the Load Modules section, no difference. The gzipped .config for this kernel is attached. What else would it be helpfull to post in an attempt to troubleshoot this? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.

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Re: ESR: Goodbye Fedora
by Kwan Lowe 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

>>> ESR has always been a lot of hot air. He's an attention whore. >>> >> >> He is some thing of a gas bag, isn't he. :D >> > > Maybe :), but he has a couple things I agree with, RH/Fedora is losing > ground on desktop share, because people want things to just work, like as > simple as playing a bloody mp3, which they can do with every other distro > out there. like it or not, its here and here to stay. I'm not certain that there's much Fedora can do about that. AFAIK, legal MP3 playback requires a license. For a community supported distro, I'm not sure if this is feasible and even if it were, it may disagree with some of the fundamental tenets of Free software. To his point about compromising ideals for end-user convenience, I'm in disagreement. > Try converting winblows users to Fedora, but saying, oh but you cant play > mp3's out of the box...you can, but youll have to go toa unofficial > RH/Fedora repo and try install it, or do like I do and erase the players > RH bastardises, and grab the source and install it, now say that to a > newbie and you've lost em! First impression are ever lasting in this > game. Here too... MP3s are nice, but it's not something that is a show-stopper for me or anyone that I've helped with Linux. I.e., if MP3 playback is important enough then it's a relatively simple matter to install the software. A rough equivalent would be WinZIP. It doesn't ship with Windows, but is a quick install. Same for SSH clients, editors, Adobe Acrobat Reader, Flash/Shockwave, Quicktime, and a host of other proprietary codecs. > Secondly, the version upgrade is messy, I've never ever yet upgraded from > one version of RH or Fedora without conflicts, FC4 was a comple explosion, > I gave up and reinstalled previous and ignored FC4. > Yet I can do this with even slackware and have been able to for years, > with slapt-get I was able to upgrade without a drama a slackware 7 box > to a slackware 11.0!!, reboot and viola! all working. True, I'll agree here. I haven't upgraded FC or RH in a long time as I generally do scratch installs. My boxes, once the distro is loaded, usually get heavily modified with all sorts of packages so it may be unrealistic in my case to have an upgrade work smoothly. My /home is separate so it's not too big a deal. > I'll possibly for time being stick with Fedora for desktops,as I've used > them since early RH, but no way in bloody hell will it ever run on any > server in my data center, I'll stick with slackware there, last RH server I > decommisioned about 2 years ago was RH9, it was unbreakable, Fedora > is by design "bleeding edge" or is that "bleeding edge of blunders", and > if we dont fix it soon, the likes of debian and suse will overtake us by a > long mile. I'd agree that FC on a server is not the best choice, though I run my own web/dns/file/ldap on FC5 or FC6 currently. Being a lazy admin though, FC fits me pretty well. You raise some good points and if you'd written the same thing that the gasbag had mailbombed the world with, I'd probably have read more attentively :P -- * The Digital Hermit http://www.digitalhermit.com * Unix and Linux Solutions kwan(a)digitalhermit.com

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Re: How to upgrade from RH8 to FC? Is it safe?
by David G. Miller (aka DaveAtFraud) 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

The Nice Spider <thenicespider(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > If I want to upgrade RH8 to FC then which version of > FC should I use? > Is it safe to upgrade from RH to FC? Please share your > experience here to help me. Your best bet would be to back up any user data and do a clean install. Since you're still running RH8, you might do better with a RHEL clone like CentOS that emphasizes stability over "cutting edge." If I remember correctly, the main difference between RH8 and RH9 was gcc moving from 2.x to 3.0. This meant that all RH8 binaries were potentially incompatible with the RH9 kernel. RH8 was primarily a "revenue release" since it really didn't include anything new above RH7.3. It probably should have been RH7.4 but then nobody would have bought it. Current FC releases use gcc 4.1.1. Bottom line is any custom binaries you had for RH8 will at least need to be recompiled for Fedora. Any "standard" programs have probably changed so much or evolved to something different that it's very doubtful that many settings, rc files, etc. will come forward. Figure out what things you need to re-implement, copy them off and then do a clean install. Cheers, Dave -- Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. -- Ambrose Bierce

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Encrypt parts of drive?
by Peter Lauri 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

Hi, First, sorry for bugging you guys with questions. I am rather new, and I hope I can contribute later on with more experience. Is there anyway to encrypt parts of a drive? For example: I need to encrypt a specific home directory /home/confidentialuser/ but not the rest of the drive, is that possible? Best regards, Peter Lauri <http://www.dwsasia.com/> www.dwsasia.com - company web site <http://www.lauri.se/> www.lauri.se - personal web site <http://www.carbonfree.org.uk/> www.carbonfree.org.uk - become Carbon Free

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What's up with the latest aci updates
by Mark Haney 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

I posted a problem with FC6 and kacpid going berserk in one of my desktops just after the upgrade from FC5 a while back and didn't see any ideas on what's causing the problem. It seems FC6 isn't starting my cooling fan. Which isn't a huge problem since that entire room is temp controlled and that's not a heavily used machine. A little while later a new update seemed to fix the problem, although the fan still didn't come on, kacpid didn't peg the crap out of my cpu. Now,with the latest update, it's back to the same problem kacpid is just beating this system apart and nothing I've done has fixed it. Does anyone have any ideas one what's happening? -- Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband

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