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yum whatprovides ??
by Jeffrey Ross 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

I tried using the command "yum whatprovides stddef.h" to locate the include library last night. Yum when through its process and came up with nothing in a fairly short order. Am I not using the command correctly? Jeff

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Grub and old hard drives
by Karl Larsen 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

For several years I have let the anaconda loader put the grub boot message in the spot for such things on /dev/hda/. Fine, a couple of years later I bought a much bigger hard drive and this Linux is on that. But Grub is still using /dev/hda/. These are both Western Digital hard drives and I have had good luck with them. But the first to fail will be the oldest I expect. When that happens Grub will fail. This is a real hard thing to fix :-( So I have a plan. First read "Info Grub" and see how to put a Grub boot in the boot section of /dev/hdb/. This I think is pretty simple. I can do this today. But how to cause the file /boot/grub/grub.conf to use this new boot point may be difficult. Assuming this is possible I will let the list know. Karl

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Laptop gets heated up very early
by Goudar Vishwanathappa Manu 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Hello, I use Compaq Presario V3133AU which has AMD Turion 64bit processor with Nvidia C51 chipset. I run 64bit F7 and it gets heated up early. If I keep it on without running anything also it heats up and most of the time fan is running. Is this normal? I get the following output when I run $ cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info processor id: 0 acpi id: 0 bus mastering control: yes power management: no throttling control: yes limit interface: yes I am not understanding why power management is no. I will be thankful for your help. -- G V Manu

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Can not run Programs that Require Root Access
by Ashley Pritchard 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

hello, I have recently installed Fedora 7 on my machine & got it working for the most part ie...adding DVD, mp3 support etc...but now when I login to my user account from GDM into Gnome I am not able to use any programs that require root access. If the Package updater pops up with updates I click on view packages & it asks for my root password. I enter it & nothing happens & it does the same thing for all programs that need root access. I have tried disabling selinux, not installing selinux updates, deleting the user account & creating a completely new user account with a different user name & I have also reinstalled the OS because of this issue and here I am back full circle. I have tried running the program through a terminal. Loged in as root from my user account I tried running the command 'pup' for the package updater & I get the following info: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/pup", line 31, in <module> import gtk File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 76, in <module> _init() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 64, in _init _gtk.init_check() RuntimeError: could not open display It was suggested to me from someone on a listserve to try this command 'xhost +localhost' & 'kdesu pup' so I did & got the following info: [awp@localhost ~]$ xhost +localhost localhost being added to access control list [awp@localhost ~]$ su root Password: [root@localhost awp]# xhost +localhost Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified xhost: unable to open display ":0.0" [root@localhost awp]# kdesu pup Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0 so neither command resolved the issue. Then it was suggested to that I was actually logging into root the wrong way. Do not ask me how since 'su root' has been the way i logged into root since the old red hat days. So they said I should try 'su - root' so I did. Well it turns out that 'su - root' does the same thing as 'su root' which is logs me into root & when I run the command 'pup ' or 'kdesu pup' I get the same result as above. Then they suggested useing just 'su' or just 'su -' to login to root. Well that does the same thing as 'su root' which is log me into root but when running 'pup' I get the same result as above. Please do not give me more ways to login as root. I can login to Gnome from GDM as root & run all programs that need root access. How do I get back access to root from my user account? -- Diolch yn fawr, Ashley

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The new gimp in core (6)
by Gene Heskett 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

Greetings; Warning, here I am going to repeat some parts of a rant I've made before. Several times in fact. Like many who run Epson printers simply because the output color quality is worth it, I find I am stuck in a catch 22. I cannot update my gimp install with your new packages. Why? The new gimp packaging is apparently hard coded in its dependencies to absolutely depend on gimp-print-4.2.7-23 and its plugin of the same version number. I installed, using checkinstall, gutenprint-5.1.0 which includes this renamed plugin, back in February as it fixed many long standing bugs such as the bottom of the page color fades, and now allows flawless borderless printing too. I am not about to screw up my printing ability by allowing a working very well installation to be over-written with broken code by false dependencies such as this. gimp-print has essentially been frozen in time at version 4.2.7 for at least 2 years, maybe longer, and any support is totally up to the individual distro, so I fail to see any logic or reasoning behind the redhat/fedora reticence in adopting gutenprint in its place. It simply doesn't grok here. Short of downloading the new gimp and installing it --nodeps --force, all by hand, which will work for me I'm sure, or building it from the tarball which I've also been known to do when fedora ignores known problems for months at a time, how do I convince TPTB that gimp-print is a deadend that should be deprecated and gutenprint used to replace it? Or, perhaps better yet, give those of us with the ability to DO something about the ancient gimp-print by installing gutenprint, the ability to do it cleanly by removing the patently _false_ dependencies on gimp-print from the gimp packaging. That would be the ideal situation since there is not in fact an actual, gimp won't run without it, cross dependency. Gimp will in fact use any plugin it finds to print through, or if there is none, the print dialog is removed, but no other function in gimp needs it or references it. Thanks for reading. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress. -- Mark Twain

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Grub CD-Rom works
by Karl Larsen 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

I find that with the instruction from a web page I can replace the grub loader on any hard drive on my computer from grub on the CD-rom. What I did was boot on the cd-rom and all you get is a grub system. From the information I gathered I did these things and they worked. grub> root (hd4) Here I got some info about (hd4) grub> setup (hd1) Here I see a lot of information about the setting up of the second hard drive (hd1) with a grub loader. So it did work fine. Karl

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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] I have an update problem.
by Gene Heskett 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

On Saturday 30 June 2007, Robert L Krawitz wrote: > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:12:35 -0400 > From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> > > Greetings all; > > Precisely, I would like to update to the next gimp, which is now > available for fedora Core 6. > > Unforch, it seems to have hard coded dependencies on > gimp-print-4.2.7 and friends. So smart won't update gimp without > installing gimp-print. But AFAIK, none of the fixes we put in the > epson drivers, such as borderless printing, have been backported to > 4.2.7 that I'm aware of. > > I've been running gutenprint-5.1.0-20070207, installed by > checkinstall since back in February, and I have no intention of > giving the quality and utility of that up without a lot of kicking > and screaming. > > So, what do I do? Go ahead and let the package manager install the > old stuff, and then re-install my gutenprint build with a --nodeps > --force? > >You should be able to have both versions of Gutenprint installed >concurrently. Whether the RPM's are built that way is another matter. That's my point in the fedora list which I've added to the To: list But, we're talking about gimp-print-4.2.7-23 over-writing my gutenprint-5.10-6 install with what is to me, broken code for my epson printer(s) It sounds as if you telling me that gimp-print-4.2.7-23 and gutenprint-5.10 can co-exist without cross-talk? >Personally, I'd build the new version of GIMP from source, and then >not have to worry about the whole mess. I did that with virtually the whole print thing including a whole new kde by way of konstruct back on FC2, when fedora ignored the screams from the I can't print crowd because they were all kde users & the official line is we support gnome. Just hovering the mouse over a print related item in the kde menu killed half the desktop & required an x restart as the minimum fix. That looked like a kde problem so I built it from scratch. Nope. The real fix turned out to be a homebuilt cups of a more recent vintage, something that fedora never _fixed_ to my knowledge, but all that lead to so much dependency hell that the system became un-maintainable even though it actually worked great. >But that's just me. Or >install the newer version of GIMP with --nodeps --force. And then I'm still doing like now, the rest of the system upgrades one or 2 packages at a time because if I click on the update all button, it will fsck up my printing again. And that _ain't_ _gonna_ _happen_ until someone from fedora tells me that ALL the stuff in gutenprint-5.10 has been back-ported to gimp-print. And that it ALL just works. The fedora track record in that dept. concerning printing is spotty at best. Printing in general seems to be something that sits on the back burner, with a _very_ limited gas supply (eg priority) at fedora. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) There has been an alarming increase in the number of things you know nothing about.

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A vlc question
by Aaron Konstam 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

I was trying to use vlc to play some video DVDs. It worked on two of them but failed on two. All of them were commercial DVDs. I remember someone previously stated a rule for which DVDs vlc will not play. Could someone restate the rule? I could not find any other application to play them either. Is there such an application? -- ======================================================================= I have had my television aerials removed. It's the moral equivalent of a prostate operation. -- Malcolm Muggeridge ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net

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George Carroll/MSRC is out of the office.
by gecarroll＠notes.cc.sunysb.edu 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

I will be out of the office starting 06/30/2007 and will not return until 07/09/2007. I will respond to your message when I return.

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a question about finding a couple of packages
by Scott Berry 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

Hello there, I am looking for a couple of packages for edns. These are the packages I need are they installed by default if not what are the actual names of the packages? I am unsure which ones to get. use MIME::Base64; use IO::Socket; Scott

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