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Re: selinux eradicator?
by Tom Horsley 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

> The most actively updated selinux package is selinux-policy. So you > should be able to remove this without too many dependencies. > > policycoreutils does have lots of packages that require it so getting > rid of it will be a problem. libselinux is a core library which you > can't remove. libsemanage and libsepol are required by policycoreutils. > > So I would just remove selinux-policy-* and you should see far less updates. That seemed to work. I also found I could remove the setroubleshoot stuff with no dependency issues. Any of the remaining packages seem to transitively drag in every other rpm on the system :-). Thanks.

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RAID gotchas!
by Jeffrey Ross 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Well I converted my single disk system last night into a dual disk RAID-1 setup and preserved all my data. I Thought I'd share an overview of the process and what I had problems with, maybe somebody here can use my experiences to help them. First some background, I'm running Fedora 7 with all the current fedora patches, I am not using any third part repositories (yet) like Livna or Freshrpms. The system is an Intel Pentium D processor with an Intel DG965RY motherboard utilizing 2- 400GB Seagate ST3400620AS SATA drives. NOTE: don't forget to remove the tiny jumper (and promptly loose it in carpet) on the drive to allow it to run at 3.0GB/s if your system allows it, the jumper comes installed by default limiting speed to 1.5Gb/s. My system was running fine on /dev/sda, I added the new disk as /dev/sdb and partitioned it as follows: /dev/sdb1 1 32 257008+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb2 33 1307 10241437+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb3 1308 1829 4192965 fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb4 1830 48641 376017390 5 Extended /dev/sdb5 1830 2199 2971993+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb6 2200 2568 2963961 fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb7 2569 48641 370081341 fd Linux raid autodetect My partitions were laid out as follows: /dev/sdb1 = /dev/md1 = /boot /dev/sdb2 = /dev/md2 = /usr /dev/sdb3 = /dev/md3 = swap /dev/sdb4 = extended partition /dev/sdb5 = /dev/md5 = /var /dev/sdb6 = /dev/md6 = / /dev/sdb7 = /dev/md7 = /home I kept the partition number the same as the raid partition number just because it made my life easier to keep track of everything but there is no reason it needs to match. next I needed to create the partitions, this was pretty simple, I used the following command: mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 missing mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb2 missing mdadm --create /dev/md3 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb3 missing mdadm --create /dev/md5 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb5 missing mdadm --create /dev/md6 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb6 missing mdadm --create /dev/md7 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb7 missing Note the "missing" at the end of the command, this will allow the system to create the raid volumes since the other disk isn't available yet. I created the file /etc/mdadm.conf and put the following in it. NOTE: if boot off a raid drive or load the raid module before mounting the partitions I don't think you need the "ARRAY" entries, but I used them anyway. /etc/mdadm.conf: # Who should get alerts? MAILADDR root ARRAY /dev/md1 devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1 ARRAY /dev/md2 devices=/dev/sda2,/dev/sdb2 ARRAY /dev/md3 devices=/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3 ARRAY /dev/md5 devices=/dev/sda5,/dev/sdb5 ARRAY /dev/md6 devices=/dev/sda6,/dev/sdb6 ARRAY /dev/md7 devices=/dev/sda7,/dev/sdb7 NOTE: until the second disk was added to the array I only had one entry following the devices entry (eg devices=/dev/sdb1) now you need to create the file systems, I kept everything as ext3 mkfs -V -t ext3 /dev/mdX where X was 1, 2, 5, 6, & 7 Don't forget swap! mkswap /dev/md3 Now mount your new partitions, I mounted them under "/mnt" mkdir /mnt/new-root mount /dev/md6 /mnt/new-root create the new mount points (you could restore root first then just mount them) mkdir /mnt/new-root/var mkdir /mnt/new-root/usr mkdir /mnt/new-root/home mkdir /mnt/new-root/boot mount /dev/md1 /mnt/new-root/boot mount /dev/md2 /mnt/new-root/usr etc Now comes the fun part, you need to move your data to the new partition. Although I've read where you can shrink the partition and convert to a raid volume, I decided against that. I used dump/restore using the command: dump -0 -b 1024 -f - /dev/sdaX | restore -rf - NOTE: I'd recommend single user mode for the copy, better yet unmount the source volume if possible, secondly run this command in the destination directory! Second NOTE: by using the option -b 1024 the performance of dump was increased about 10 fold however upon completion you will get "broken pipe" error, I found everything was copied properly and didn't worry about it. All your data is copied to the RAID volume but a reboot will only load from the old disk. I did the following: modified /etc/fstab to read: /dev/md6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/md7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/md5 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/md2 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/md1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/md3 swap swap defaults 0 0 Note for clarity I removed tmpfs, devpts etc. Also in hindsight I probably could just use the label command "e2labe /dev/md1 /boot" etc but I wanted to be positive what would be mounted. I modified grub.conf on *both* the new partition and the old partition to read: kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7 ro root=/dev/md6 and then ran grub to install the boot loaded on the disks. grub-install /dev/sda grub-install /dev/sdb At this point I rebooted.... and if your familiar with how raid works you'll know the system wouldn't boot. At this point I booted off the rescue disk and was able to mount all my raid partitions. Of course that didn't help me get the system reloaded so I started searching the internet for clues. The answer came in mkinitrd mounted my partitions in the recovery mode, now knowing what I know now should have been prior to the first reboot. rename the existing initrd file to something else ( eg .old ?) then from the new /boot directory run the following, and copy it to the old boot directory as well (unless you can boot from /dev/sdb in your bios) mkinitrd --preload=raid1 initrd-2.6.21.1.3228.fc7.img 2.6.21.1.3228.fc7 At this point you should be able to reboot and the system will be running on the (degraded) RAID disks. If your happy with everything then you can repartition your original drive (fdisk) to match /dev/sdb once that is done you need to add the new partitions to the raid volume. To do this enter the command: mdadm --add /dev/mdX /dev/sdaX (where X is the partition number of the volume) Do this for all your remaining partitions, and then you can cat /proc/mdstat and see the volumes being rebuilt ( hint: "watch cat /proc/mdstat") Your done! Hope this was helpful to somebody. Jeff

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Re: Evolution doesn't save state
by Aaron Konstam 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:41 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 10:43 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > >> Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > >>> Evolution takes a while to save its state on termination, and > >> doesn't > >>> seem to save it very often in normal use. The result is that when > >> the > >>> system is halted and then restarted, a lot of messages that have > >> been > >>> read show up as unread on restarting. Is there any way to cure > >> this, > >>> other than manually halting evolution before halting the system? > >>> > >>> Does Thunderbird have similar problems? How hard is it to switch to > >>> Thunderbird (anyway)? Any problems importing folders? > >>> > >>> Apologies if this isn't the right list. > >>> > >>> Thanks - jon > >>> > >> I was reading about this issue on the Evolution mail list. Evolution > >> changes some information, only when closing and this is causing > >> problems. This may be related to the issue you are having. > >> > >> On the list it was mentioned that Thunderbird changes the message > >> state > >> as the message is read. I prefer Thunderbird and wouldn't use > >> Evolution > >> except to work with Exchange server. > >> > >> -- > >> Due to the move to M$ Exchange Server, > >> anything that is a priority, please phone. > >> Robin Laing > > > > Let me get this straight. You want to be able to logoff with evolution > > running and when you login again you want all the unread e-mail to still > > be unread and I assume that you want deleted messages to have > > disappeared, > > > > Well it is clear this is not how evolution works and I for one don't > > want it work that way. I find Evolution in F7 better than it has ever > > been. Its spam removal is first rate where before it was poor. Anyone > > who doesn't like evolution should stop using it. > > -- > > What do you want? All your unread mail to be marked as read? Or read > mail to be marked as unread? Or deleted mail to be marked as unread? > Or did you just make a mistake in the wording of the above reply? > > I want the state of my mail to be current with what I have done. If I > read a message, I want it's state changed as I read it. If I delete a > message, I want it gone from my inbox. At least in Thunderbird, it is > moved out of my inbox to "Trash", instantly. > > I found out that Evolution doesn't move messages when I "move" them. It > copies them and then marks the messages for deletion. I found this out > when I got a message from my admin people to clean out my inbox. I had > to "Expunge" my inbox of thousands of messages. > > But I think the issue of the OP is the state of the messages left on the > exchange server. If he reads a message in Evolution, it should be > marked as read at that point, not at some later time. Same with deleted > messages. What the complaint is and from what I read, is Evolution > doesn't change this state data until closing Evolution, and logging out. > > To the OP, go to the evolution mail list and search the archives on this. > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > We must be having a communication problem. It is true that when a message id deleted or moved from a folder it is not actually removed from the folder it just disappears from the folder's view and shows up in the folder it is going to. In fact if you disable the option hide deleted messages you can see it in both folders (trash in the case of deletion). To me this is a good thing since I do not have the deleted messages hidden and can easily look at a deleted message if I decide later i may have missed something it said. The messages are kept in that form until evolution is terminated. The same way with read and unread messages. When evolution is exited and then restarted messages are expunged. So that seems OK with me so I don't see what the complaint is . Maybe you can clarify your objection to how it works. Is seems possible you are taking about IMAP processing with the exchange server where the messages remain on the server. If so I can see that the evolution approach might be a problem. Is that it? -- ======================================================================= Your happiness is intertwined with your outlook on life. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net

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First F7 install
by John Bowden 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Hi Folks Finely got round installing F7 on my box. Every thing went relatively smooth, except for no sound from the sound card. only system beeps. The Mother board is an Asrock K8NF6G VSTA /M /ASR. It has got the Nvidia NF6100-405 Chipset. The Hardware browser tells me its running the nvidia MCP61 driver. How do I get my sound card working? -- Guy Fawkes, the only man to enter the house's of Parliament with honest intentions, (he was going to blow them up!) Registered Linux user number 414240

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selinux eradicator?
by Tom Horsley 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

I'm never gonna use selinx, yet every new batch of updates seems to have yet another new version of a slew of selinux packages to download and install, with half of them wasting time doing find commands to do god knows what to every file on my system :-). Out of idle curiosity, I asked yum what would happen if I tried to remove every rpm that has selinux in its description. The result was that just about (maybe not even about) every single rpm on my system would be removed for dependencies. Is there any set of selinux stuff I can actually remove? Anyone working on a alternate repo of bizzaro-selinux packages that will satisfy the dependencies while only downloading a few hundred bytes and executing no complicated side effects when installed? Or maybe a selinux free fedora spin? Maybe on the more realistic side: How about a /etc/sysconfig/selinux variable I could set that would inform the rpms I'm never ever gonna enable selinux, and they can just skip all the time wasting nonsense they normally do when installed?

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MP3 to Ogg Vorbis
by Chris 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Is there an app that will convert MP3 files to Ogg? -- Best regards, Chris

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Re: DVI output, ATI or nVidia
by Andrea 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

>> I've seen something with nVidia GE 7XXX or GE 8XXX. >> Alternative is ATI 1650SE >> Or should I go for one Intel integrated? >Yes. >Intel integrated + ADD2 DVI card + "intel" xorg driver >= open source solution. >The Intel driver is open source, not a binary blob. Thanks. You mean that the open source driver for Intel card has a much better support than the open source driver for ATI and nVidia. I think I will investigate again and look for the one you mentioned. Cheers

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f7 dead and recovery disk hangs.
by Robert Cahn 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

I have a F7 system. It uses the x86_64 distribution. We had a lightning storm and I was away. When I got back the system had hung and wouldn't reboot. When I tried to put in the recovery CD and restore the system it loads in a number of SCSI drivers. When it gets to, "Loading sata_sis driver" progress halts. After a while garbage fills the middle third of the screen and the disk spins on and on. I've tried to reinstall F7 but the same thing happens. It appears the sata_sis driver is corrupted and the system cannot update without it. Does anyone know a word around? /Bob Cahn Gipsy Trail Club Carmel, NY 10512

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yum update crashed
by Genes MailLists 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

# yum update ... Updating : kdeaddons ##################### [ 88/171] /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.60994: line 1: 15897 Segmentation fault /sbin/ldconfig This has not been a good set of updates guys ...

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full duplex and mtu question
by chloe K 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Hi all How can I force the NIC to full duplex? and change the mtu where the file should I set it in boot time? have you tried to force 10G full duplex? Thank you --------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail --------------------------------- Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page.

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