Re: Evolution doesn't save state
by Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:41 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 10:43 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> >> Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> >>> Evolution takes a while to save its state on termination, and
> >> doesn't
> >>> seem to save it very often in normal use. The result is that when
> >> the
> >>> system is halted and then restarted, a lot of messages that have
> >> been
> >>> read show up as unread on restarting. Is there any way to cure
> >> this,
> >>> other than manually halting evolution before halting the system?
> >>>
> >>> Does Thunderbird have similar problems? How hard is it to switch to
> >>> Thunderbird (anyway)? Any problems importing folders?
> >>>
> >>> Apologies if this isn't the right list.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks - jon
> >>>
> >> I was reading about this issue on the Evolution mail list. Evolution
> >> changes some information, only when closing and this is causing
> >> problems. This may be related to the issue you are having.
> >>
> >> On the list it was mentioned that Thunderbird changes the message
> >> state
> >> as the message is read. I prefer Thunderbird and wouldn't use
> >> Evolution
> >> except to work with Exchange server.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Due to the move to M$ Exchange Server,
> >> anything that is a priority, please phone.
> >> Robin Laing
> >
> > Let me get this straight. You want to be able to logoff with evolution
> > running and when you login again you want all the unread e-mail to still
> > be unread and I assume that you want deleted messages to have
> > disappeared,
> >
> > Well it is clear this is not how evolution works and I for one don't
> > want it work that way. I find Evolution in F7 better than it has ever
> > been. Its spam removal is first rate where before it was poor. Anyone
> > who doesn't like evolution should stop using it.
> > --
>
> What do you want? All your unread mail to be marked as read? Or read
> mail to be marked as unread? Or deleted mail to be marked as unread?
> Or did you just make a mistake in the wording of the above reply?
>
> I want the state of my mail to be current with what I have done. If I
> read a message, I want it's state changed as I read it. If I delete a
> message, I want it gone from my inbox. At least in Thunderbird, it is
> moved out of my inbox to "Trash", instantly.
>
> I found out that Evolution doesn't move messages when I "move" them. It
> copies them and then marks the messages for deletion. I found this out
> when I got a message from my admin people to clean out my inbox. I had
> to "Expunge" my inbox of thousands of messages.
>
> But I think the issue of the OP is the state of the messages left on the
> exchange server. If he reads a message in Evolution, it should be
> marked as read at that point, not at some later time. Same with deleted
> messages. What the complaint is and from what I read, is Evolution
> doesn't change this state data until closing Evolution, and logging out.
>
> To the OP, go to the evolution mail list and search the archives on this.
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
>
We must be having a communication problem. It is true that when a
message id deleted or moved from a folder it is not actually removed
from the folder it just disappears from the folder's view and shows up
in the folder it is going to. In fact if you disable the option hide
deleted messages you can see it in both folders (trash in the case of
deletion). To me this is a good thing since I do not have the deleted
messages hidden and can easily look at a deleted message if I decide
later i may have missed something it said. The messages are kept in that
form until evolution is terminated. The same way with read and unread
messages. When evolution is exited and then restarted messages are
expunged.
So that seems OK with me so I don't see what the complaint is . Maybe
you can clarify your objection to how it works. Is seems possible you
are taking about IMAP processing with the exchange server where the
messages remain on the server. If so I can see that the evolution
approach might be a problem. Is that it?
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--
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it, so I installed FC6. But with FC6, I can't get the ipw3945 wireless
working. I can't catch a break!
There seems to be several ways: the iwl* packages, the ipw* packages,
with or without Network Manager...
So scanning the internets and this list, this is what I have now:
[root@lexa ~]# uname -a
Linux lexa.thekramers.net 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 #1 SMP
Tue Jun 19 19:27:14 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[root@lexa ~]# rpm -qa | egrep '(3945|ieee)'
ipw3945d-1.7.22-4.at
ipw3945-1.2.0-18.3.fc6
ipw3945-kmdl-2.6.20-1.2962.fc6-1.2.0-18.3.fc6
ipw3945-ucode-1.14.2-4.at
ieee80211-kmdl-2.6.20-1.2962.fc6-1.2.16-18.fc6
ieee80211-1.2.16-18.fc6
libieee1284-0.2.9-3.2.2
[root@lexa ~]# lsmod | egrep '(3945|ieee)'
ipw3945 180000 1
ieee80211 46188 1 ipw3945
ieee80211_crypt 9216 1 ieee80211
ieee1394 294681 1 ohci1394
[root@lexa ~]# ps -e | egrep '(3945|ieee)'
3672 ? 00:00:00 ipw3945/0
3674 ? 00:00:00 ipw3945/1
3675 ? 00:00:00 ipw3945/0
3676 ? 00:00:00 ipw3945/1
3685 pts/2 00:00:00 ipw3945d
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alias eth1 ipw3945
install ipw3945 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 ;
sleep 0.5 ; /sbin/ipw3945d --timeout=2
remove ipw3945 /sbin/ipw3945d --kill ;
/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ipw3945
[root@lexa ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
# Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt
# for the documentation of these parameters.
TYPE=Wireless
DEVICE=eth1
HWADDR=00:1b:77:2c:64:c4
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
NETMASK=
DHCP_HOSTNAME=lexa.thekramers.net
IPADDR=
DOMAIN=
ONBOOT=no
USERCTL=yes
IPV6INIT=no
PEERDNS=yes
ESSID=DONTPANIC
MODE=Managed
RATE='36 Mb/s'
CHANNEL=1
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up" doesn't get an IP address, nor does "dhclient eth1", which just
keeps trying.
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What does the fast blinking WiFi lite mean?
What's the difference between the iwp* packages and the iwl* packages?
Thanks. I hope I included enough information. I'm pretty desperate at
this point. This is an expensive laptop!
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