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yum again
by Dave Stevens 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

You know when yum works its great but every once in a while it just sets my teeth on edge by failing for no apparent reason and without any noticeable diagnostic. This happened recently. I tinkered with the HD and had to cycle power to do so. F7 came back up saying I have updates available. As usual I just entered the root password and hit enter. segfault. WTF? try again while crossing my fingers and wishing. segfault. Anyone else seeing this? two replies, no, must be you, works for me. grump. Dig into past fedora-list mail for ideas. What about yum clean all? Looks reasonable, ran it and it returned pretty quickly with no errors. Ok, will the update work? no. Now it hangs after downloading the packages and before installing. Reboot. no joy. well what else is in the archives. what about [root@localhost ~]# rpm --rebuilddb seems like a reasonable move but it has been running now for 90 minutes. Is that reasonable? anyone have ideas? diagnostics? or log files I can check? Dave -- There is no single government agency that views sustainability through a broad lens, taking into account the values of the people affected by government decisions. Any model of sustainability that is driven solely by an economic engine is deficient if it is incapable of taking into account social values. Mr. Justice David Vickers, BC Supreme Court in Tsilhqot'in Nation v. British Columbia,2007

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Upgrading to F8 on Dell Dimension 5100
by Dave Cross 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

I have a Dell Dimension 5100 which was running F7 very happily for some time. I wanted to upgrade it to F8. I downloaded the DVD ISO and burnt it to a blank disk. When the system boots from the DVD, I see the boot menu. I select either the Install/Upgrade or Install/Upgrade (text) option. I then get the "Loading vmlinuz..." and "Loading initrd.img..." messages followed by a "Ready." prompt. At that point the system hangs. The installation doesn't proceed. Has anyone else seen anything like whilst installing or upgrading F8? Any advice on how I can debug this problem? Cheers, Dave...

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mouse versus touchpad, or cursor placement wars...
by Tim 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Is there an easy way to get FC7 to ignore a touchpad while a mouse is plugged in, then go back to using the touchpad when the mouse is unplugged, automatically? Try as I might, I cannot stop my system from randomly doing something with the touchpad while typing, even though I'm not anywhere near contacting it, and the simplest solution would be to just plug in a mouse. The laptop came with two disable touchpad hotkeys (Fn + F9, and an extra special key), but naturally they don't work. They don't actually do any disabling, they just send a keypress to trigger something else to do the work in software. It's an Asus PRO31J F3JC Laptop. -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.

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java again really
by Karl Larsen 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

I am going nuts with F8. I want to get jedit to work and the java is bad. I installed the latest version 6 but removed it to learn I am trying to use this java: java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.fc8 I didn't load this special. It comes with F8. It has 30 dependencies :-) I find when I try to delete it. By the way I HAVE deleted the icedtea rpm's that F8 loads. It appears that F8 has some java built in but it is too old to support jedit, or not big enough, or both. A friend who has jedit working has these java files: glib-java-0.2.6-3.fc6 libvte-java-0.12.1-6.el5 libglade-java-2.12.5-3.fc6 cairo-java-1.0.5-3.fc6 libgtk-java-2.8.7-3.el5 revamp_java-0.0-3.rhis libgconf-java-2.12.4-6.el5 java-1.5.0-sun-plugin-1.5.0.13-1jpp.1.el5 libgnome-java-2.12.4-3.fc6 java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-40jpp.112 java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.13-1jpp.1.el5 Does anyone know how I can get this list on my F8? Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7

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Google Earth reports "drmWaitVBlank returned -1"
by Jonathan Ryshpan 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

I've just loaded the latest version of Google Earth. About 3 seconds after I start it from a console the following message appears on the console: do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly. Try running with LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH unset. After about a minute Google Earth starts and appears to run OK. Does anyone know what this message means? How can it be avoided? Could it be related to X-Windows driver problems? Every few days my monitor puts our a message that it's out of sync and goes dark; the message (and going dark) are exactly what appear when the computer is turned off. I can get the screen back by going to a non-X console (ie. by pressing CTL-ALT-F1) and then going back to X-Windows (ie. by pressing ALT-F7). Thanks - jon

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small machine needs a small linux.
by Ric Moore 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Anyone know offhand if there is a "small linux" distro that also uses rpms? I've got some PII's and PIII's to install to, and then give them away to our charity. So, I'd like something that can make use of these old machines and include a CD with each of them. Thanks in advance, Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================

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dynamic dns dhcp dealing with invalid host names
by Tim Alberts 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

I'm running dhcpd with dynamic DNS for the network and I regularly get errors such as: Jan 4 13:04:14 msi2 named[18496]: zone example.com/IN: IMac\0321.example.com /A: bad owner name (check-names) Jan 4 13:04:14 msi2 dhcpd: Unable to add forward map from IMac 1.example.com to 192.168.0.185: timed out The fix is to change the client hostname to remove the space character. However, clients refuse to follow the naming conventions and keep putting space characters in the host name. Can I configure DHCP/DNS to accept this or better yet, refuse to get them an address if the name is invalid?

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C development package for Fedora?
by Steven Jones 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

I just installed Fedora 8 from the "live" cd. Much to my dismay gcc was not included. I am not a C programmer but occasionally compile third party programs. I can install gcc easily enough but what about all of the support libraries? Is there a yum "meta" package to install the libraries in one easy step? On a somewhat related note I have been unable to find a list of Fedora packages by category. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/collections/id/14 is nice but it only list packages alphabetically Any suggestions. Thanks

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cvs maillist merge
by Ric Moore 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Anyone know of a good way to merge two cvs lists that have duplicate entries?? Thanx, Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================

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Printer sharing over network
by Mike Chambers 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

If you have a printer installed, and set it to "sharing" on it's properties, is that enough for another computer (windows vista or linux) to be able to find/recognize it and use it? Or do you have to setup samba as well? Hrm, have thought bout a way to use (if there is one) a printer router type thing to plug it into to (has usb cable) let all computers connect to it via printer server or something along those lines (already have linksys wireless router)? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best lil town on Earth!"

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