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alternative to `tar`
by Guillaume 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

hi, actually, I use the tar utility to backup my fedora box to a file... After a full backup file is reach near 8GB, and when I want to restore some backuped files, it take veeerrrryyy long time (more than 1h30) to analyse/index the file and extract the needed folders. Is there a way to speed up the restore process with any options to tar, or, any other command utility to use for my backup. Thanks for your help. -- Guillaume

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central administration
by Max 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Does anyone know why the administration tools are not all accessible through a single panel? I have seen this done in other distros and it makes alot of sense. Though in these other distros the default five minute sudo rule ( once you enter the root password, you get five minutes of unrestricted(gui) admin access) was still enabled which if you centralize administration doesn't make a lot of sense. I know the "5 minute rule" can be eliminated via the addition of "timestamp_timeout=0" but why not centralize administration and eliminate it all together? Gnome-control-center will run from a command line. I guess the real question is why the gnome-control-center isn't availiable via gui(by default) as a central administration tool. In the case of System>Administration and all the individual options, the "5 minute rule" makes sense but with central admin panel I don't see the need. Someone please enlighten me. -Max ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

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Appropriate list for RPM/spec building questions?
by Timothy Selivanow 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

What is the appropriate list to post questions about building packages and spec file creation? Fedora-mentors-list? Fedora-packaging? I'm trying to make a package for pysvn [http://pysvn.tigris.org/] and am running into some...difficulties. --Tim _______________________________________________________________________ < Man who falls in vat of molten optical glass makes spectacle of self. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- \ \ \ \ /\ ( ) .( o ).

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Re: more Fedora Cookbook: VNC
by Tom Horsley 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday(a)crashcourse.ca> > > > yes, yes, it's really basic stuff but ... > > http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Configuring_VNC Speaking of VNC, I noticed a weirdness - after connecting to my system remotely using a VNC session (not a copy of my main screen, just a separate VNC server), I now get a stoopid popup about X11 and Gnome keyboard settings being different when I login to my main console display. Anyone know what is going on there?

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close to a wireless connection newbie
by Jan Brosius 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Hello, I think that I am close to a wireless connection with my laptop. Here is the information. I work with networkmanager With System>Administration>Network I have created besides the device eth0 two other devices for connection to the internet: 1. Device ppp0 of type xDSL : my wired connection to the internet wherein I have been able to give my password and my username 2. Device wlan of type wireless (mode managed, ssid : auto). With networkmanager I can connect this device to a wireless network named WIFI_A6. Everything is detected : DNS etc. However I need to give to device wlan my username and password (my internet connection is adsl PPPoE). Is there any way to give username and password to device wlan, Thanks for any help Jan Brosius

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F7 yum update segfaults
by Dave Stevens 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

anyone else seeing this? Dave -- There is no single government agency that views sustainability through a broad lens, taking into account the values of the people affected by government decisions. Any model of sustainability that is driven solely by an economic engine is deficient if it is incapable of taking into account social values. Mr. Justice David Vickers, BC Supreme Court in Tsilhqot'in Nation v. British Columbia,2007

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Adobe Reader AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1 Problem in Fedora 8
by Leslie S Satenstein 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

I have the subject software installed (64bit Fedora), What I noticed, with compiz active (and not tested without it active), is that ADOBE reader works fine until one does a quit. Adobe appears to quit, but a process is left in memory, to churn away. It is quiet for a while, then begins to consume considerable CPU cycles, and then returns to quiet. If a second file is loaded in the Reader, it works fine, and may even quit normally after the second file (only one file at a time). If one has a file already loaded, and we read another pdf file (2 in memory) Adobe exhibits the same problem upon quiting. A kill frees up about 10% cpu, as reported by top. My system Intel 930 (dual core) , 3 gigs memory, and Fedora 8, 64bit. Can someone collaborate my findings? Leslie

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jedit: the recipe
by Robert P. J. Day 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

admittedly, i finally gave up following the jedit thread, so i test installed it on two different f8 systems (i386 and x86_64) and it worked flawlessly both times. http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Installing_jedit rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Home page: http://crashcourse.ca Fedora Cookbook: http://crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_Cookbook ========================================================================

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F8-x86_64 dccm problem & confusion
by Gene Heskett 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Greetings; 2nd send, no reply to 1st. Trying to make synce work on my lappy. Its an F8 x86_64 install on an HP dv5120us Notebook. 1) the error message when trying to start the synce-trayicon is missleading as it names a failure to start dccm as a major problem, but parks itself in the tray anyway. 2) starting synce-software-manager doesn't complain, but doesn't show anything either. No pulldown config menu's or anything but the add-subtract etc buttons. Is this the correct behaviour? 3) I finally installed the smart package manager because the updater appears to have been dumbed down until it just barely survives. Using the search function of SPM, I find that the package is actually named vdccm, and is supposed to replace the dccm in the synce-kde package. Thats fine, but there is no 'dccm' in the synce-kde package. And all the vdccm stuff that's non-devel is installed already. 4) as user, do "strace /usr/bin/vdccm", which begins the failure stanza with a getuid() = 500 setresuid(-1, 500, -1) = 0 setresuid(-1, 0, -1) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) getuid() = 500 geteuid() = 500 write(2, "[int main(int, char**)53:] ",27[int main(int, char**):53] ) = 27 write(2, "Could not start - either because"...,90Could not start - either because vdccm is not installed suid, or you start directly as root) = 90 So I become root with an su - and repeat, and get essentially that same exact output but without the setresuid's -EPERM return, it and the following setresuid's are all = 0 this time: getuid() = 0 setresuid(-1, 0, -1) = 0 setresuid(-1, 0, -1) = 0 getuid() = 0 geteuid() = 0 write(2, "[int main(int, char**)53:] ",27[int main(int, char**):53] ) = 27 write(2, "Could not start - either because"...,90Could not start - either because vdccm is not installed suid, or you start directly as root) = 90 This does not appear to be an selinux problem, but a packaging problem, so how do I fix the already installed /usr/bin/vdccm? Its perms now read -rwsr-xr-x according to ls -l. And 5) will this fix the synce-trayicon since its error message says dccm, not vdccm? 6) what's the relationship to raki, do they clash and fsck things up fighting over resources? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping.

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Sound configuration needs tweaked
by Mike Chambers 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

I have noticed that for me to get sound, is to go to below menu.. Menu/Sound & Video/Pulse Audio Volume Control And then to get streams to work, I have to right click on the stream (while it is trying to play) and move the default to my sound card instead of my onboard sound. And the same for output and input devices, right click on the default sound card and select default. I then have sound and can hear from the websites and everything else. So my question, is there something I can configure/remove/add to get the defaults selected automatically upon login and not ahve to do this every single time? I don't remember doing this before I did another install couple days ago, so am wondering what I had done before to get it to all work. Any ideas? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best lil town on Earth!"

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