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Fedora x86_64 madwifi / ndiswrapper.
by Ricardo Gomez 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

Now I running fedora 9 at 32 bits on a turrion 64 x2 laptop with madwifi working so well from livna. I want to move to 64 bits architecture, but I want to know if madwifi is going to work as well as 32 bits one, or if I have to chenge to ndiswrapper. I hope my words express what I want to ask. Thank's. -- Ricardo Gomez http://ricgomez.net/

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[Solved] Desktop AWOL
by Jonathan Allen 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

The answer on this one is: 1. use the Configuration Editor to tell nautilus not to show the desktop 2. log out and back in again 3. use the Configuration Editor to tell nautilus *to* show the desktop 4. reboot When you next log in, the desktop, icons, folders and so on are all back again. BHS! Jonathan

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livna update of kmod
by don vogt 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

I suspect I may have missed something in reconfiguring for the new key. I have updated the kernel a couple of times. Once on an fc9 machine with an nvidia card (which needs kmod-nvidia-96xx) and once on fc9 using kqemu. Each time when I boot the system can't find the kmod for my new kernel I tried to update the kmods, with --enable repo =livna, with no luck. I looked on the livna wiki and I have been watching here for something about this situation. help would be appreciated. I am lost.

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OT ? Computing nirvana... new HP hdx laptop, F8 and dolphin. :)
by linux guy 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

Sorry if this is off topic, but I thought that I would share my recent computing happiness with the Linux community. I suspect that some people might find it inspiring and/or informative. My laptop died a while back so I bought a new HP hdx9494 on the weekend. For those not familiar with the HP hdx line, its a high end desktop replacement machine with a 20.1" LCD, 2 hard drive bays, an Intel Core 2 Duo T8100 processor (can be upgraded to an X9000...), 4GB RAM, a Blu Ray/ Dual layer DVD drive, a full sized keyboard, a fingerprint reader, a TV tuner with remote control, a great sound system, complete with a subwoofer and a host of other goodies. If you guessed that the hdx is heavy, you are right. 16 pounds or so. A lot of people want a small light laptop. I want a desktop replacement and I want it to have a large, bright display. It would be nice if the hdx was 8 pounds instead of 16, but given that I don't have to carry a 20 inch widescreen with my laptop anymore, I am pretty happy. My last laptop was an HP zd7000 with a 17" Ultra Brightview monitor. While many people thought that machine was great due to its large, bright display, the hdx9494 blows it away in just about every dimension. No comparison. This hdx line also has an eSATA port to connect to an external SATA and run it at full SATA speeds, in sharp contrast to connecting an external drive via USB. I've found the hdx battery life to be surprisingly good... more than 2 hours while web browsing via a WiFi connection. That might sound bad to someone used to 5 hours from their palmtop, but its pretty good for a fast desktop replacement with a big bright display. FWIW, I paid $1600 for my hdx. HP seems to have discontinued these machines. I don't think there are many left to buy. The hdr9494 comes with a single 5400 RPM 320GB SATA drive. I wanted more storage space and a faster hard drive for the OS, so I added a 7200 RPM Seagate 160 GB hard drive as the primary drive. 480 GB of storage in a laptop ! I'm in heaven. I plan to use a dedicated external SATA drive for backup purposes... I'd hate to lose 400 GB of data by dropping my laptop or having it stolen. As we all know, hardware is only half the computing equation. The hdx comes equipped with a 64 bit version of Vista. I powered it up when I got home and spent the next 30 minutes watching it go through its startup process. Then I played with it for about an hour. It runs pretty fast on the hdx, but there was no way that I was going to keep it installed. I had XP installed (dual boot) on my last laptop. I ended up using it about twice a year... not enough to warrant the precious hard drive space it took up. If I come to the conclusion that I need Windows on my hdx, I'll install XP on it. Nevertheless, I made the Vista recovery disks before I uninstalled it. It took about 2 hours to make 3 single sided DVDs. Sad. With that complete, I installed the 32 bit version of F8 from the DVD. The first thing I noticed is that the wireless card (Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN with Bluetooth) worked automatically during the first boot up ! This is the first time that I have installed Linux on a computer (since RH8 days) that a wireless card worked without either building ndiswrapper or setting up the livna repository and downloading a kernel module. With my wireless connection working, I ran yum update. About 480 packages got upgraded. I then enabled the livna repository and installed the nvidia kernel module and dependencies and wala, I had 1680x1050 on my desktop, all without editing the xorg.config file. That too was a first for me. Until now I always had to muck around with xorg.config to get the video to work properly. Linux is progressing ! Many thanks to those in developer land that made this a reality. With the wireless card and nvidia video working, I then went about copying my data from my old laptop hard drive to the hdx by installing it in a USB IDE hard drive enclosure. What a joy it is to be running F8 again. I've been running F9 since early July and I have to say that my desktop and computer in general was terribly disorganized due to my dislike of using the KDE 4.x desktop. I'm not saying this as a knock against the developers. In fact, I think that KDE4 is going to be much nicer than KDE 3 will ever be... someday. For now, I am much more happy with KDE 3. But I did miss Dolphin. So I installed it on F8. (# yum install d3lphin) Dolphin beats Konqueror hands down for me. So here I sit typing away on this gorgeous laptop, running Fedora 8. They make a great combination. Everything is very fast and comfortable. I've got a fast and powerful machine with a versatile, stable, elegant operating system. This is the way computing is supposed to be. I haven't been this happy since I moved from a Mac Plus (8 inch B&W display, slow Motorola 32000 processor, 40MB hard drive) to a Sun Workstation back in the 80s ! All is not perfect, however. Not all the hardware works with F8, not that I've spent much time setting things up. I haven't looked at the webcam, remote control or finger print reader yet. Nor the flash card reader, although the kernel seems to recognize it. Maybe it too works out of the box ? The soundcard doesn't work properly. Sound does work properly from headphone jack #2, although it isn't very loud. Sound doesn't work from jack #1, nor does it work from the laptop speakers. I think I saw a post and a bug report on this same issue, so I'll give it some time. I was surprised to find that the funky mute/volume and other audio control buttons built into the laptop work right out of the box. I find it nice to touch the mute button on the laptop when the phone rings to silence Amarok rather than fumbling around with the mouse. The touchpad works much better than touchpads have in the past. But for some reason it continues to work even when one shuts it off with the switch. I haven't looked into this issue yet. And the eSATA port isn't working yet. Luckily my external hard drive supports both USB and eSATA so I got by yesterday with using the USB port instead. All in all, I am happy to be back in F8 land and very happy with my HP hdx. Kudos to the Fedora/Linux/OS developers for giving me a great computing environment. Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with HP whatsoever.

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Changing ftp client timeout?
by Patrick Baldwin 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

I've got some users with Linux systems who are getting timeouts when trying to connect to a busy ftp server. Using Filezilla, I can connect just fine if I up the timeout from 20 seconds to 60. I've been trying to find out how to do this with the native Linux ftp client (installing Filezilla isn't really an option), but all I can find via Google is how to do this for the ftp server, which doesn't help. Regards, -- Patrick Baldwin Systems Administrator Studsvik Scandpower 617-965-7455

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run bash script on a MAC?
by Michael D. Berger 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

On my FC7 box I wrote a bash script that my daughter wants to run on her MAC. I know nothing of the MAC. Would this work? BTW, the script is essentially a for loop that renames files. Thanks for your help. Mike.

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Linux and Lightscribe Technology
by Gene Poole 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

I've poked around the net looking for something to address my desire to use my Fedora 8 box to burn Lightscribe labels onto my CDs and DVDs. But, most of the software I found seems to be about 2-years old. That seems to me to be a long time without an update! I've got 2-Windows machines that will perform this task, but, I really would like to remain in my comfort zone on Linux. Any ideas? Thanks, Gene Poole

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Re: Desktop AWOL
by Jonathan Allen 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

Nigel, > > I run FC2 on one of the machines inside our firewall - I just like the > > look and feel of it :-) Just ten minutes ago, the desktop icons and > > facilities disappeared mid-session. The icons and files on the desktop > > vanished, right-click on the desktop doesn't bring up a menu and I'm > > stumped. How do I get it back? The ~/Desktop directory is still there > > with its contents, but isn't being displayed. > As a fellow FC2 user, are you using Gnome, or KDE. Gnome and metacity as far as I can tell. > I don't use Gnome, but I found something on Google, where someone had messed > with Nautilus, which apparently is responsible for drawing icons, background, > and the right click to get the menu. Perhaps Nautilus crashed, and is why you > lost all the icons, etc. > > Have you tried logging out, and backin. Many times, over several days. Even a reboot. > Perhaps try creating a new user, and see if you get the default icons for the > new user. No, other users seem OK. > btw. We need to start an FC2 users club. A bit like the Morris Minor club, but > for ancient distros that still work well. Absolutely. I know each FC[1-*] and F[7-9] will each have their adherents, but I'm just comfortable with the look and feel. Jonathan

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Re: Desktop AWOL
by Jonathan Allen 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

Patrick, > > I run FC2 on one of the machines inside our firewall - I just like the > > look and feel of it :-) Just ten minutes ago, the desktop icons and > > facilities disappeared mid-session. The icons and files on the desktop > > vanished, right-click on the desktop doesn't bring up a menu and I'm > > stumped. How do I get it back? The ~/Desktop directory is still there > > with its contents, but isn't being displayed. > Possibly your window manager died. If you have an open xterm try > executing it again (kwm, metacity or whatever -- you don't say which > desktop you're using so it's hard to predict). I think it is metacity. I did "metacity --replace &" and most of the open applications twitched then settled down again. But my icons, the trash-can and the desktop files didn't re-appear. This is a straight Gnome desktop as it came out of the box. No 'Computer', no 'jonathan's Home', no nothing. Not even the FC2 logo in the middle of the screen. Another thing that doesn't work is RedHat -> Browse Filesystem. The disk light flicks a bit but nothing else happens and I would have expected to be allowed to look at files. Jonathan

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Fedora based Backup system
by Seann Clark 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

All, I have played with various backup programs and tools over the years that are free with Linux (namely Amanda) and I am wondering if there is a good, multi O/s tool that is out there, that would support various Unix's (I know Amanda does that) and windows systems. My other question is what would be the best backup plan to use? Hard drives? Tapes? DVD's? (Bluray are great @25GB, but suck at US$259 for a 20 pack of them.) Right now I am using G4L on all my Windows systems, and Amanda on my *nix platforms, and have had mixed results. When my windows systems are running it can be hit or miss that it gets anywhere with the creation/moving of the image over to the storage system (Which is RAID5, and needs a better backup plan for its 2.8TB+ of total storage) and I am polling the list to get ideas on a better solution that is free/inexpensive for a SOHO setup. I know hard drives in external enclosures is a good bet for some applications (I think of laptop/desktop backups with that solution) but any better/different suggestion would be appreciated Thanks in advance, Seann

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