I've got a new laptop with an eSATA port and a new (unformatted) eSATA
external hard drive.
Is eSATA hot plug compatible with a stock F8 kernel ?
$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 22.214.171.124-14.fc8 #1 SMP Wed Sep 3 03:40:05 EDT
2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
$ /sbin/lsmod | grep sat
sata_sil24 16069 0
libata 131937 3 ata_piix,sata_sil24,ahci
The reason I ask is because I expected to be able to plug it in and do an
fdisk /dev/sdc and set up a new partition. (My laptop has 2 internal hard
drives, sda and sdb, so sdc should be the external eSATA drive, right ?)
When fdisk failed, I resorted to hwbrowser. It stalled/crashed.
I repeated the experiment after a reboot with the drive powered up, ie not
hotplugged anymore, with the same results.
What am I missing ?
--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Fred Silsbee <fredsilsbee(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Fred Silsbee <fredsilsbee(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: thanks...job well done
> To: "Fedora List" <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 2:41 AM
> just did a yum update
> everything went perfectly
> Now the nvidia.ko kernel mismatch message is gone at boot
> no more phonon not working message
> and...I did NOT have to do a
> >rpmscarf -whatthe hell pdr50693/abcd 'raise the
> from an old IBM commercial:
> "People should think, machines should work"
> Now I can get back to programming and appreciating the
> great work done by the update guys True teamwork
> after I have mastered several different subjects and
> finished my work, I may come back and master yum
and now kuser is working perfectly...didn't see any references to kde or utilities go by
How did that happen?
However ksnapshot/region is still not working requiring a logout/login
Hats off to X and video people...once I worked in this area (eons ago) and it has become recently far more complex
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just did a yum update
everything went perfectly
Now the nvidia.ko kernel mismatch message is gone at boot
no more phonon not working message
and...I did NOT have to do a
>rpmscarf -whatthe hell pdr50693/abcd 'raise the drawbridge'
from an old IBM commercial:
"People should think, machines should work"
Now I can get back to programming and appreciating the great work done by the update guys True teamwork
after I have mastered several different subjects and finished my work, I may come back and master yum
Now I running fedora 9 at 32 bits on a turrion 64 x2 laptop with
madwifi working so well from livna. I want to move to 64 bits
architecture, but I want to know if madwifi is going to work as well
as 32 bits one, or if I have to chenge to ndiswrapper.
I hope my words express what I want to ask. Thank's.
The answer on this one is:
1. use the Configuration Editor to tell nautilus not to show the
2. log out and back in again
3. use the Configuration Editor to tell nautilus *to* show the
When you next log in, the desktop, icons, folders and so on are all
back again. BHS!
I suspect I may have missed something in reconfiguring for the new key. I have updated the kernel a couple of times. Once on an fc9 machine with an nvidia card (which needs kmod-nvidia-96xx) and once on fc9 using kqemu. Each time when I boot the system can't find the kmod for my new kernel I tried to update the kmods, with --enable repo =livna, with no luck.
I looked on the livna wiki and I have been watching here for something about this situation. help would be appreciated. I am lost.
Sorry if this is off topic, but I thought that I would share my recent
computing happiness with the Linux community. I suspect that some people
might find it inspiring and/or informative.
My laptop died a while back so I bought a new HP hdx9494 on the weekend.
For those not familiar with the HP hdx line, its a high end desktop
replacement machine with a 20.1" LCD, 2 hard drive bays, an Intel Core 2 Duo
T8100 processor (can be upgraded to an X9000...), 4GB RAM, a Blu Ray/ Dual
layer DVD drive, a full sized keyboard, a fingerprint reader, a TV tuner
with remote control, a great sound system, complete with a subwoofer and a
host of other goodies.
If you guessed that the hdx is heavy, you are right. 16 pounds or so. A
lot of people want a small light laptop. I want a desktop replacement and I
want it to have a large, bright display. It would be nice if the hdx was 8
pounds instead of 16, but given that I don't have to carry a 20 inch
widescreen with my laptop anymore, I am pretty happy. My last laptop was an
HP zd7000 with a 17" Ultra Brightview monitor. While many people thought
that machine was great due to its large, bright display, the hdx9494 blows
it away in just about every dimension. No comparison.
This hdx line also has an eSATA port to connect to an external SATA and run
it at full SATA speeds, in sharp contrast to connecting an external drive
via USB. I've found the hdx battery life to be surprisingly good... more
than 2 hours while web browsing via a WiFi connection. That might sound bad
to someone used to 5 hours from their palmtop, but its pretty good for a
fast desktop replacement with a big bright display.
FWIW, I paid $1600 for my hdx. HP seems to have discontinued these
machines. I don't think there are many left to buy.
The hdr9494 comes with a single 5400 RPM 320GB SATA drive. I wanted more
storage space and a faster hard drive for the OS, so I added a 7200 RPM
Seagate 160 GB hard drive as the primary drive. 480 GB of storage in a
laptop ! I'm in heaven. I plan to use a dedicated external SATA drive for
backup purposes... I'd hate to lose 400 GB of data by dropping my laptop or
having it stolen.
As we all know, hardware is only half the computing equation. The hdx
comes equipped with a 64 bit version of Vista. I powered it up when I got
home and spent the next 30 minutes watching it go through its startup
process. Then I played with it for about an hour. It runs pretty fast on
the hdx, but there was no way that I was going to keep it installed. I had
XP installed (dual boot) on my last laptop. I ended up using it about twice
a year... not enough to warrant the precious hard drive space it took up.
If I come to the conclusion that I need Windows on my hdx, I'll install XP
on it. Nevertheless, I made the Vista recovery disks before I uninstalled
it. It took about 2 hours to make 3 single sided DVDs. Sad.
With that complete, I installed the 32 bit version of F8 from the DVD. The
first thing I noticed is that the wireless card (Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN
with Bluetooth) worked automatically during the first boot up ! This is
the first time that I have installed Linux on a computer (since RH8 days)
that a wireless card worked without either building ndiswrapper or setting
up the livna repository and downloading a kernel module. With my wireless
connection working, I ran yum update. About 480 packages got upgraded.
I then enabled the livna repository and installed the nvidia kernel module
and dependencies and wala, I had 1680x1050 on my desktop, all without
editing the xorg.config file. That too was a first for me. Until now I
always had to muck around with xorg.config to get the video to work
properly. Linux is progressing ! Many thanks to those in developer land
that made this a reality.
With the wireless card and nvidia video working, I then went about copying
my data from my old laptop hard drive to the hdx by installing it in a USB
IDE hard drive enclosure.
What a joy it is to be running F8 again. I've been running F9 since early
July and I have to say that my desktop and computer in general was terribly
disorganized due to my dislike of using the KDE 4.x desktop. I'm not saying
this as a knock against the developers. In fact, I think that KDE4 is
going to be much nicer than KDE 3 will ever be... someday. For now, I am
much more happy with KDE 3.
But I did miss Dolphin. So I installed it on F8. (# yum install d3lphin)
Dolphin beats Konqueror hands down for me.
So here I sit typing away on this gorgeous laptop, running Fedora 8. They
make a great combination. Everything is very fast and comfortable. I've
got a fast and powerful machine with a versatile, stable, elegant operating
system. This is the way computing is supposed to be. I haven't been this
happy since I moved from a Mac Plus (8 inch B&W display, slow Motorola
32000 processor, 40MB hard drive) to a Sun Workstation back in the 80s !
All is not perfect, however. Not all the hardware works with F8, not that
I've spent much time setting things up. I haven't looked at the webcam,
remote control or finger print reader yet. Nor the flash card reader,
although the kernel seems to recognize it. Maybe it too works out of the
The soundcard doesn't work properly. Sound does work properly from
headphone jack #2, although it isn't very loud. Sound doesn't work from
jack #1, nor does it work from the laptop speakers. I think I saw a post
and a bug report on this same issue, so I'll give it some time. I was
surprised to find that the funky mute/volume and other audio control buttons
built into the laptop work right out of the box. I find it nice to touch
the mute button on the laptop when the phone rings to silence Amarok rather
than fumbling around with the mouse.
The touchpad works much better than touchpads have in the past. But for
some reason it continues to work even when one shuts it off with the
switch. I haven't looked into this issue yet.
And the eSATA port isn't working yet. Luckily my external hard drive
supports both USB and eSATA so I got by yesterday with using the USB port
All in all, I am happy to be back in F8 land and very happy with my HP hdx.
Kudos to the Fedora/Linux/OS developers for giving me a great computing
Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with HP whatsoever.
I've got some users with Linux systems who are getting timeouts when
connect to a busy ftp server. Using Filezilla, I can connect just fine
if I up the
timeout from 20 seconds to 60. I've been trying to find out how to do
the native Linux ftp client (installing Filezilla isn't really an
option), but all I
can find via Google is how to do this for the ftp server, which doesn't