is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
by Genes MailLists
I am a long time KDE user - in part for similar reasons to Linus - it
was configurable, flexible and let me set things up the way I wanted -
easily and simply. It had a very nice configuration manager. Gnome by
contrast was rigid, inflexible and to configure it - the bits it
allowed you to - you needed in part to learn about its registry which
warned you that the registry editor may corrupt things in bad ways - use
at your risk. Gnome was undergoing rapid changes - metacity went through
a lot before it was stable .. kde all the while was pretty stable.
That was the way things used to be. Now KDE is harder to configure,
not as flexible and is difficult if not impossible to set up the way I
like things (task manager showing 1 icon per console or per firefox, the
workspace chooser in the middle, the ability to click and save a session
etc etc).
So what I am seeing is some of the KDE users I know are slowly giving
up and moving back to gnome - its the default windowing
manager/environment on fedora and ubuntu and seems more mature and
stable than KDE 4 - and since as far as configurability goes, KDE has
little advantage to offer at this time. Perhaps the next version, or the
one after that will bring back the advantages. Maybe by 4.2 or 4.3 or
4.4 or... 5.0 ..
So seeking guidance from the path others are choosing:
(1) Are the fedora KDE users moving back to gnome ? ... is KDE dead
or alive ?
(2) Are there fedora Gnome users moving to KDE ? It is after all very
similar in its function now ... and does not use spatial mode by default
(;-).
Be very interested in hearing what thoughts others are having.
gene
12 years
Dell OptiPlex 745 reboot problem
by Tony Molloy
Hi,
I've just installed Fedora-9 on a lab of Dell OptiPlex 745 (SFF) machines. (
only in 1 lab TG )
After running firstboot when I went to reboot the machines they just hang and
I had to do a hard reboot. I thought this was a minor glitch and ignored it.
Now however when the machines boot into Fedora-9 the "reboot" and "suspend"
buttons do not work. The windowing system just shuts down and I get a text
prompt and the machines just hang there.
As thes are dual boot machines this will cause a lot of problems starting
monday when the students return ;-(
Is ther some magic incantation to grub to sort this problem or any body got
any ideas.
Thank's
Tony
12 years, 1 month
F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?
by mike cloaked
I have tried various ways to persuade my laptop to install F10 from the DVD
iso file stored on one of the partitions that will not be formatted during
the install. Nothing I have tried gets the install to continue past the
stage where the Partition holding the iso image is selected. It says it
cannot find the install media and seems to have added images/install.img to
the end of the directory path where my iso file is stored.
I have also tried by adding the images directory to the same directory
containing the iso, and within it is the install.img file
Telling the install to point to the directory on the partition containing
the DVD iso and the images directory still gives an error message that
anaconda cannot find the install media.
I have tried from the netinst iso burned to a physical CD disk, the vmlinuz
and initrd.img extracted from this iso and referred from grub to boot it,
from the extracted vmlinuz and initrd.img from the DVD iso booted via grub,
and whichever way I start the HD install it always fails at the same point.
I could use the DVD on this machine as it does have a DVD drive but I have
other machines without a DVD drive that I would like to install from the DVD
iso on the hard drive.
Does anyone have a confirmation that an HD install does work? I am
wondering if this is just my specific hardware that is tripping up anaconda
in this case - so other reports would be valuable.
if I can successfully do an HD install on this machine I have some hope that
it is possible on other machines... and if so what is the trick. I have been
doing installs this way for quite a few years with all previous versions of
Fedora including F9. The only difference is that in this case the images are
stored on a laptop which has f9 with SElinux enabled so I don't know if this
makes any difference - I can't see that it should and the iso files are
readable by all users with permissions set to 755.
I have tried adding linux askmethod to the install, instead of the graphical
boot - but every way I try for an HD install fails at the same point and I
am getting heartily frustrated now.
Can anyone report success please?
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12 years, 1 month
Gnome apps font size on KDE Live CD
by Andrew Parker
I installed from the KDE Live CD, so I don't have the gnome desktop
installed, but all the fonts on gnome apps are way too big. How do I
configure the default font size for gnome apps?
12 years, 1 month
configure networkManager to accommodate static DNS server
by L
Hi,
I use networkManager to handle network things. However, after started, it
automatically generate a /etc/resolv.conf file
the only dns is 192.168.1.1
I want to code the ISP DNS servers to /etc/resolv.conf permanently. How to
do this?
Best
Y
12 years, 1 month
kalarm time zone setting
by Frank Cox
I use kalarm for a lot of stuff even though I have a Gnome desktop. It works
great.
But ever since I upgraded my main desktop computer to F10 all of the alarms
have been going off several hours early.
I just found out why. Under "Settings - Configure kalarm - Time and Date", the
timezone is set to UTC and that's the only option that's presented to me.
Clicking on the down-arrow beside the box gives me one option: UTC.
How can I fix this?
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12 years, 1 month
Compiling Programs for F10
by Rick Bilonick
I'm trying to compile v4l-dvb for Fedora 10. Besides gcc, make, and
kernel headers, what needs to be installed? I've compiled this for
Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 8.10 without any problems. But I'm getting errors
when I try to compile for F10.
Rick B.
12 years, 1 month
best video card for fedora 10
by Don Raikes
Hi everyone,
I have been watching this list for a while.
The ati radeon video card on my gateway desktop has failed, so I am starting to look for a new video card, and am wondering which is the best for fedora 10.
I will do most of my workin console mode ( run level 3), and some work in the gnome desktop.
I am not a gamer of any sort, and do not plan on watching many (if any dvd's) on it. I just need basic video capabilities, and don't want ot spend a ton of money.
Any suggestions appreciated.
12 years, 1 month
f9 without pulseaudio.
by Reg Clemens
I keep reading comments on this list that one can remove pulseaudio
from f9 and it will run like a normal alsa system.
I have removed
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
and libflashsupport
from my f9 system, rebooted.
Sound in Flash in Firefox works just fine, but aplay doesn't.
If aplay doesn't work I wonder about mplayer, totem, and the other sound
producing programs that I havent tested.
So, is there anything else I should be removing to get back to
'just alsa' ????
I would really like to understand what is going on here.
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12 years, 1 month