I installed Fedora 12 x86-64 onto Hp Z800 workstation, had a problem with
software updates so used
$su -c 'yum update',
problem was fixed. Installed Adobe Acrobat Reader. Downloaded few other
programs but did not install them. Then, the screen froze. Tried
Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart, didn't work, so reset the machine from the power
button. Then someting very interesting happened - machine went into a loop
mode, started, failed to boot fedora, shutdown, restarted by itself, failed
to boot fedora, shutdown...etc about six times. Then I just shut the machine
off. Before fedora could be loaded, the pc just shutdown in each case. At
start tried pressing F10 but didn't work.
Has anyone else experinced a similar problem?
I've made DVD deltaisos available which update from Fedora 12 to the
recently released Fedora Unity 20100303 12 (second respin).
Fraction of full ISO size: 18.8%
applydeltaiso's approximate running time: 32 minutes
md5sum of deltaiso: 67a8c551850b320bd45560b7e01c7ddc
Fraction of full ISO size: 19.9%
applydeltaiso's approximate running time: 38 minutes
md5sum of deltaiso: d90c343aaf38746250dc6cd7e4014569
These are available at
Instructions are at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Delta_ISOs
Each torrent page also has a direct download link in the comments.
These expire after a certain time so I'll try to post new comments with
working links when that happens.
On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote:
> you are completely irrelevant... not that I have any ability to change
> that and I surely respect your right, as a Fedora user to post on the
> In the future, would you please mark your irrelevant rantings as OT (off
> You really don't want to know what I think when I read this.
The section that you posted was a little out of line, Craig, granted.
However. Your response is also indicative of the exact problem he's referring
The users and bug reports are, by and large, irrelevant. Mine certainly have
been. As I said, sometimes I did not give enough info, but it also really
For example, pulseaudio. It was introduced in a state that was pretty much
unusable for me. Sound only started working when I turned it off. I filed a
bug report. I supplied all the info requested. As I remember, might as well
have been a black hole. Someone insisted it wasn't even a bug. I responded,
yes, it was. They said I didn't put it in the right place. I responded, then
move it to the right place instead of closing it. Someone said "yeah, you're
probably right, but too bad." Bug closed. Got fixed on its own accord at some
point in the future. Until then I just disabled pulseaudio.
What about selinux? At the SCALE conference, Karsten Wade gave the keynote
and acknowledged that selinux was handled badly, and also acknowledged that it
was a huge PR problem - people are still reflexively turning it off because of
the damage the Fedora project did to its reputation. I can't even turn it on
at my workplace because no one trusts it - and FEDORA did that! Fedora, and
And it's not getting any better, at least from my experience.
We are *not* irrelevant. I'm not, and neither is the OP, and the attitude
that says we are is the *problem*.
I tried to prevent buggy programs from bringing my system to a halt by
setting an RLIMIT_DATA with "ulimit -d", but I discovered that the limit
has no effect due to a glibc behavior. I reported this as a bug:
I am convinced that this is an infelicitous behavior that deserves at
least a WONTFIX, but the assignee seems equally convinced that it is
NOTABUG, and I do not understand the terse justification given. I don't
want to go on reopen warring forever. Could I please have an outside
I've tried to install F12 on my Core 2 Duo iMac. The installation seemed
to go okay but there's no sign of Fedora when I boot. I hold down the
<Option> key and just get the MacOS partition. Is there a trick to this?
Thanks in advance,
I'm curious how many current KDE users we have - what percent of our
install base? And what percent of the desktop install base ?
Since the 3.5 -> 4.0 KDE pushathon, everyone I know who was a KDE user
(myself included, and Linus too!) switched to gnome and none has yet
At least a part of the fuss about updates seems to be driven by KDE
wanting to be faster paced than the rest - I'm curious what percent of
our install base this actually represents today?
For me there were only 2 things disruptive I presently recall - the
last was F11 kmail no longer working after recent update - and the
devastatingly bad 3.5 -> 4.0 premature release.
I actually like the current general pace - its stable but we get
decent flow (tho it has slowed somewhat over the 12-18 months or so it
seems) of upstream updates/bug fixes and largely when appropriate larger
version bumps. Tho things like firefox lag too much imho - but I no
longer care as I now use chrome which is way way better.
Sure there are little hiccups here and there but overall things are
non-disruptive and decently up to date - and that is the right balance.
Congrats fedora management, redhat and contributors - and thank you.
We are trying to attach a Dell E2210H monitor to a Dell X260 Optiplex
which is running 2.6.10-1.771_FC2.
I have found the drivers for Windows but not for Fedora. Where can I
access monitor drivers for Fedora?
To whom it shall concern,
I am very angry that I am unable to update Firefox manually using Firefox
because the "Check for Updates" menu option from Firefox is dimmed out.
The information from Mozilla states I need to have sufficient access
authority to be able to "Check for Updates".
How can I do this with Fedora 12?
I feel I should have the ability to start Firefox and be able to "Check for
Updates" as I please and *NOT WHAT SOMEBODY AT RED HAT OR FEDORA WANTS ME TO