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gnome/metacity preferences
by Greg Woods 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

What happened to what used to be under System -> Preferences -> Windows? Documented here: http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/2.27/prefs-windows.html.en I want to be able to set it so that windows automatically focus when the mouse enters them, but under F13 I cannot find this setting anywhere. I've got two F13 laptops, one was upgraded from older versions, the other had a fresh install. One of them works the way I want, the fresh install one doesn't, which means there has to be some preference somewhere in my home directory that controls this, so I'm hoping somebody can point me to the menu I can't find, a config file that I can edit, or a package I am missing. Thanks, --Greg

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unbale accesses fedora
by rajib samal 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

i have installed fedora13 then iinstalled ubuntu 9.04 after that i am unable to open fedora help me how i modify grub file tell me in details

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Re: Fedora Notifications System.
by Mahmoud Abdul Jawad 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 06:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > I have to agree with Kevin here (!). Employing a notification system in > parallel to the ones already provides by the desktop environment is a > total nonstarter. > in fact, your point means there will be two versions, KDE version & other desktops version, which imo is not the best call. however, after seeing the big number of the alternative solutions, & the bigger number of the disagreements, i'm going to stop for a while before i make sure whether i should continue or not. -- Regards,, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad @meGenius

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rpm -e question
by JD 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Running rpm -e <pkgname> does not delete the binaries and other files that were installed by the package; and I see no option to rpm in the man page to remove the package's files. So far I have had to remove them manually after I remove the package. But that is a hit and miss operaton because I cannot always remember to do rpm -ql --provides <pkgname> and delete the files listed (after doing rpm -e). I know there are dangers to providing such a feature and use it accidentally and do damage: for example, you need the ability to boot different version of the kernel. Since a kernel package also installs header files in /usr/include and firmware files in /lib, then such an accidental usage of such an option could wreak havoc. But isn't that always the case with so many other commands, which if they are used without full knowledge of the consequences, then indeed we get to be hit by those consequences. Does anyone agree that rpm should have an option such as --delete-files to delete tha package's installed files ??

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No VLC snapshot -
by Bob Goodwin 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

I was quite pleased when I found vlc could take a snapshot from a video stream. Yesterday I found it no longer works and I recalled a recent vlc yum update. From the log file: Aug 23 07:30:47 Updated: vlc-core-1.1.3-1.fc13.i686 Aug 23 07:31:02 Updated: vlc-1.1.3-1.fc13.i686A [Up to date F-13 Linux box9 2.6.33.8-149.fc13.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Aug 17 22:39:27 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux] Has anyone else observed this problem or is it just me? Bob --

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faster /dev/random
by Wolfgang S. Rupprecht 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Is there an approved way to increase the speed at which the random pool for /dev/random fills up? I'm playig with dnssec and getnerating 2k rsa keys is taking up to 3 hours. I've been googling a bit and Intel x86_64 machines seem to have random number hardware built in (perhaps also AMD???) Is there a way to funnel this into the entropy pool? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ (IPv6-only)

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KDE 4.4.5: assigning a key sequence (not key combination)
by Dj YB 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hello, I have asked this question few days ago in the fedora-kde list but got no answer, perhaps someone here know the answer... is there a way to assign a key sequence as a shortcut (e.g Esc+Esc+Esc)? Thanks, YB.

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Random kernel update breakage
by Sam Varshavchik 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Every once in a while, something breaks when a kernel update gets installed. It doesn't happen every time, I'd say that once in every thirty or so kernel updates, grub fails to come up after a subsequent reboot. This is just a minor annoyance -- I'd have to boot the install CD in rescue mode, let it mount Fedora on /mnt/sysimage, chroot to it, and execute /sbin/grub-install -- but I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this. This just happened again -- after installing 2.6.33.8-149.fc13, rebooting my laptop only results in a black screen, with a BIOS cursor uselessly blinking away in the top-left corner. Whip out the rescue CD, and now a few minutes later I'm back in business. But then, I updated a different server to 2.6.33.8-149.fc13, and it booted the new kernel just fine. Previously, this same server got similarly de-grubbed by an earlier kernel update, but the laptop had no issues being updated to the same kernel.

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Re: Fedora Notifications System.
by g 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

On 08/24/2010 06:41 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: <snip> > thanx for the worthless discussion with you, g you are most welcome. > i guess your (ZERO) points about the application are very great, & i'm > going to implement them all. if you read back thru post, you will see that i did post a '+1' to point made that i fully agree with and did not see need to write them all over again. personally, see no benefit of adding something else to desktop that will somewhere along the line be a potential problem. especially when desktops, ie, kde, are always changing and in changing, breaking. therefore, to insure that users are notified, notices should be sent thru list subscriptions. i subscribe to user, announce, xen, admin, redhat security, and kde list and i am considering subscribing to dev list. in so doing, i do keep up with most of what is happening and i see no reason why notifications can not be cross posted to list to inform one and all when needed. nor do i see any reason that there would be any complaints of such cross posting by subscribers of list. something that you may not have given consideration to, what happens when a fedora user has fedora system off for a few days of he is using another distribution and is still reading his emails and something critical comes up like an exploit that can wipe entire installation as soon as he runs a program that has a time delayed bomb in it and this bomb is set for while he is out of fedora? very simple, he loses everything. why, because he was running a distrib that was unaware and he did not get notified because notification did not come via email. this to me is a big flaw in a very fine distribution. there is nothing wrong with your concept if you not only have a notification system and an email notification and ability to disable notification system. another plus would be if notification system was designed to watch for emails with a key in them that would trigger notification system to pop up a notice on desktop, as long as feature had ability to disable. another flaw in automatic checking is what would happen if crazies decided to run a DoS for url that check is made thru. in so running DoS, they intercept and respond with a bogus 'all clear' of send a false 'danger' with an update notice. then when user tries to run update, another DoS is running against url for updates and another intercept is set up to download some form of malware or bomb. yes, this is a lot of 'what ifs', but what if it was done? therefore, i still say, *BAD IDEA*. it gains nothing. in closing, thank you for posting 'text/plain'. now your post will be easier to follow and read by others who trap 'text/html'. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . **** in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ ****

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I need a jabber client, like real fast
by Robert Moskowitz 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

We are suppose to have a WebEX meeting going, but having problems. So the coordinator told everyone to jump on a jabber session. I don't know what to use for jabber on my FC12 system. ??

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