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Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?
by Fernando Cassia 07 Nov '11

07 Nov '11

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:07, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > until now btrfs has serious performance problems in different load > scenarious The only major "serious performance problem" I have read about are with virtual machines, due to the way btrfs spawns new threads, and that is solved with a work-around, telling the VM not to cache the virtual disk image file. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-July/154251.html FC -- "The purpose of computing is insight, not numbers." Richard Hamming - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamming_code

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XFCE weather applet shows "no data"
by SternData 07 Nov '11

07 Nov '11

Is it just me? The XFCE weather applet has been showing "no data" for several days now. No matter what city I enter, it says "weather report for 99" when I ask it for a forecast. Hovering over the applet says "Cannot update weather data". -- -- Steve

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autofs/nfs issue with Fedora 16
by Richard Shaw 07 Nov '11

07 Nov '11

I use autofs to mount a nfs share that contains both the contents of the various Fedora install DVD's and packages I've built for a local repository. This has worked quite well on all my Fedora 14 & 15 machines. I updated my laptop to Fedora 16 and it's having trouble see below: [richard@laptop local]$ ll total 0 drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 0 Nov 6 08:46 gramps drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 0 Nov 6 08:46 packages [richard@laptop local]$ cd packages/ bash: cd: packages/: No such file or directory [richard@laptop local]$ ll ls: cannot access packages: No such file or directory total 0 drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 0 Nov 6 08:46 gramps d?????????? ? ? ? ? ? packages [richard@laptop local]$ pwd /net/hobbes/var/local As you can see when I first cd into /net/hobbes/var/local I can see the packages directory, but when I try to cd into it I can't and then ls'ing again shows strange output. Any ideas? Contents of /etc/exports on hobbes: /var/local/packages 192.168.0.0/24(ro,sync,all_squash) /var/local/gramps 192.168.0.0/24(rw,sync) Thanks, Richard

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Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE
by Linux Tyro 07 Nov '11

07 Nov '11

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net>wrote: > But without intentionally deleting memory, how could it be lost except > for the case > > that power has gone and I am not using UPS....Cold boot simply means > that it doesn't > > need credentials to log-on? > > cold boot means a normal boot from powered off state because if you lost > power-supply > while suspend to RAM is active your state IS powered off > Ah well. -- THX

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An idea: good for community implementation
by Linux Tyro 07 Nov '11

07 Nov '11

Hi, I have an idea as follows: Fedora should celebrate every year its birth-day, like having a great party and celebration of its success and an optional party for all to attend (people attending with their own money of travel) and so it becomes more like that of 'a great achievement', how this idea is? -- THX

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Re: gnomebaker [WAS: Re: question(s) on Brassero (maybe bug)]
by Linda McLeod 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

Off the top, isn't this bug the same ole bug that happens in nearly every new Linux distro that runs with GnomeBaker/Brassero & MusicPlayer..? I'm bets if all the related glitch-data in the old OS's was compiled, the experts might come-up with a viable cure-solution to the problem never occurring again... Off the top, on second thought.. Is the problem PC in an older Dell which isn't properly bios-configed for Linux..? Seems a lot of the complaints are to do with bios, as many are to do with incompatible hardware.. and with users using the computer while it is installing new updates.. Is there a link to data that details what damages happen to an OS when user runs the computer while it's installing, which relates to the scenarios that way too-many keyboards and mouses are replaced because angry-fists cracked them into bits... Be relaxed user.. Give the things time to fulfil a command or a process.. especially older model PC's.. Or depending upon age of the computer, one could change the thing's oil, or maybe add another chunk of coal to the burner, and water to the boiler... I just noticed in F-14 when FireFox is up, and I've clicked a Gedit word file, it doesn't and can't come-up over the FireFox window, till FireFox is minimized..? Is this security, or a new bug?.. Is this bug anyway related to Fedora's other bugs..? Do bugs begat baby-bugs..? Does overly zealous security cause some new bugs..? -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web

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F-16 should have more easy custom user default-options, right to the core...
by Linda McLeod 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

F-16 should have more easy custom user options, all of them, right to the core... If something is fun the whole world loves it... Most of my Internet work is done downloading and uploading pix-edits.. Sure would be sweet if when I clicked "save pix", the "save" would happen right where the cursor is at the "save pix" button.. How do I eliminate the second "save pix" command, so Fedora goes straight to saving the pix I've already asked it to save..? Like in Gimp, I click save, and I must repeat the command.. How do I eliminate those irritating secondary command pop-ups, so the thing does what I wants it to do on first click..? The computer is supposedly the epitome of efficiency.. It is not efficient when the user must set repeat commands twice and often thrice.. though I do realize that some users need those many safety features to mentor them through daily functions unscathed.. some of us take full responsibility accurately for the buttons we click.. though once I accidentally deleted a whole file of thousands of pix.. Lucky I had backups, but I lost ten hours of edits.. Haven't done it since.. It's a hard lesson, but once burned & learned isn't likely to be repeated... F-16 needs resou8rces to click off all those echo safety resources, so a guy can get things done at a high-speed velocity, without the thing forever asking for conformation to finial decisions, is what makes using the computer feel like "it is made for, and is addressing sleeping overly-stressed neanderthals"... F-16 should have more genius-user options, right to the core.. maybe as a package that digs into all defaults straight-up in a toolbox window.. maybe as an add-on apartment (or "tangential hallway") in Ailurus..? Would be nice if there was a package that opened up the whole OS to instant quick & easy reconfiguring... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow

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GNOME 3 with GNOME 2 look via Linux Mint Extensions
by Valent Turkovic 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/try-new-mint-gnome-shell-extensions.html Linux Mint team has done it again, they have made excellent set of extensions (and used some existing ones) to recreate GNOME 2 look in Gnome-Shell. If these extensions work on GNOME 3.2 expect a really slick Fusion Linux 16 Remix ;) -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt & http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turkovic(a)hotmail.com

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Preparing for F16 / uid/gid limit
by Frode Petersen 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

In preparation for F16, I wonder what the best approach to handling the new uid/gid limit is. I'm not upgrading, so the new limit will be in effect after installing the new Fedora. I always keep the old version for at least the duration of the next release cycle, so I can go back in case of trouble. I keep all user created data on a separate partition that I mount and then symlink directories into the filesystem (e.g. ~/work, firefox/thunderbird profiles), but have a separate /home/[username] for each version of Fedora. (Just in case some user settings might change in incompatible ways. Ref F14-F15) The change is in raising the limit, but are there actually accounts created in the range between the old and the new limit when installing, or can I just change back the uid/gid numbers and the limit in /etc/login.defs afterwards? The other option would be to change uid/gid for all files and modify F15 accordingly. Would this require me to change more than uid/gid for all the files and user accounts? I guess 'chown -R newUID:newGID ~/*' would be the wrong way to do this, if there are files with other values for oldUID/oldGID? Frode Petersen

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A general history question
by Linux Tyro 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

Hi, Excited to see this world of Linux. A general question came in mind regarding the origin of Linux. Well, it (Linux) is basically a kernel -- perhaps same in majority of all the distros, almost all. Well, openSUSE also uses the technique of .rpm which is again Red Hat Package Manager. So basically i get to know that it was initially in Linux two sides -- 1) debian 2) rpm (as already discussed) but just wanted to know that openSUSE also has been derived from Redhat like many other distros have....? And out of debian and .rpm, both seem to be the oldest but I guess debian is more old...? Was just talking of linux not unix (like freebsd). -- THX

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