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speed of yum
by Genes MailLists 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

I happened upon pacman on Arch linux - and it appeared to be substantially faster than yum. Now this was casual "visual impact only" - no formal tests using similar packages and same computer etc - but it was very much noticeably faster. Installs of even large packages seemed to fly compared to what I was used to from yum. Of course it could be difference in systems, or xz compression versus presto or who knows what else ... but it leads me to ask ... Are there any good performance benchmarks comparing yum with pacman and apt etc? gene/

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penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?
by Linux Tyro 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

Hi, As I have liked Linux (yes, I am windows convert), so with 2 GB RAM and 250 GB hard-disk, I am now going to make hard-disk penta boot as follows:- Fedora - 20 GB - installing it, - /root (20 GB) openSUSE - 10 GB installing with /root (10 GB) Ubuntu - 10 GB installing with /root (10 GB) Debian - 10 GB installing with /root (10 GB) Mint - 10 GB installing with /root (10 GB) /home - 190 GB (remaining space) In this scenario, I have just few doubts: While suppose I first install Fedora, I have to use /root for 20 GB, /home for 190 GB (which automatically becomes Logical partition...?) or should I make both primary and logical other distros...? Similarly proceeding with all distros, and allocating space from the unallocated ones, okay but installed other distros would come in Extended...(obviously...?) After final installation, which distros would govern the booting menu? Since some may have GRUB2 and others may have GRUB Legacy, so changing one file might disturb the other or vice-versa? Or is it like that if I have installed /root (Fedora) at first, so only /boot/grub/menu.lst of Fedora would govern the hard-disk and the changes made in this file would be done automatically with other installed distros too...Trying this new geeky way of installation but I have no prior experience since earlier I had installed only two distros - Fedora dual booted with Windows, but now I am trying to remove Windows completely and installed these distros.... Any suggestions....welcome....Thanks. -- THX

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using document camera with linux
by Ranjan Maitra 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

Hi, I want to use a ELMO document camera with my linux laptop (Fedora 16). Is there any way to do so? I can get the exact model number of the ELMO tomorrow if that would be helpful but I wanted to see if this is at all possible. Many thanks for any pointers! Best wishes, Ranjan

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Upgrade F14 to F16 system logon/logout and event sounds but no other sounds
by The Walters 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

Since upgrade from 14 to 16 (using DVD) I can hear the logon sound and system events but nothing else with a HDA NVidia ALC662 rev1 card (MB - ASRock K10N78M-PRO) thru the analog output. And when I try to play anything that accesses the default sound card I get the message "The audio playback device HDA NVidia (ALC662 rev1 analog) does not work falling back to..". I have tried a Knoppix live CD and everything works fine (getting ready to try a Fedora live disc). Tried some suggestions noted on the fedoraforum but none of them work. Searched the list and didn't see any info on this. Any help would be appreciated. This is the link to the output from the alsa-info script http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=37...4a11c465c96ff3 <http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=37f581a05228811110be31e94e4a11c465c96ff3> uname -a Linux Gundam 3.1.2-1.fc16.i686 #1 SMP Tue Nov 22 08:56:28 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux lspci -v | grep -i snd Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel lspci | grep -i audio 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio (rev a1) cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia HDA NVidia at 0xfbf78000 irq 21 aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: ALC662 rev1 Digital [ALC662 rev1 Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 lsmod | grep snd snd_hda_codec_realtek 232179 1 snd_hda_intel 20691 3 snd_hda_codec 73778 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 4821 1 snd_hda_codec snd_seq 43428 0 snd_seq_device 5033 1 snd_seq snd_pcm 63551 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 15209 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd 48367 13 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec, snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 5027 1 snd snd_page_alloc 6031 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

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For gPodder users out there - Podcast Crash
by Jorge Fábregas 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

Hi, Could you please confirm if you get a crash when adding the following TWiT podcast? http://feeds.twit.tv/twit_video_large I get the ABRT warning as soon as I add the podcast. Don't know if it's something on my setup. I'm on F14 and using the latest: gpodder-2.20-1.fc14.noarch. Thanks! Jorge

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F15: how to set clamd service?
by sean darcy 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

I can't find a daemon script for clamav. I can start clamd directly, that seems to work. Is there a chkconfig or systemd script? Or do you need to stick something in rc.local? rpm -qa | grep clam | sort clamav-0.97.3-1500.fc15.i686 clamav-data-0.97.3-1500.fc15.noarch clamav-filesystem-0.97.3-1500.fc15.noarch clamav-lib-0.97.3-1500.fc15.i686 clamav-server-0.97.3-1500.fc15.i686 sean

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f16 netinst from fedora 16 beta disc?
by Ian Malone 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

Hi, Does anyone know if using a Fedora 16 beta netinstall disc will get me to Fedora 16 release version directly? I've got one from previously upgrading a system to F16 beta and want to know if I can save burning a new disc to upgrade another machine. Thanks -- imalone

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Putting Gnome on a diet
by John Wendel 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

Gnome3 starts a lot of daemon processes that I'd like to get rid of. Currently, I just chmod 644 the executables in /usr/libexec. Could someone please tell me the "correct" way to configure Gnome so it doesn't run daemons that I don't want/need. Thanks, John

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Adventures with Gnome 3.2 fallback
by Aaron Konstam 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

My luck was that Gnome3.2 could not fully work on my system so I was going to be put in fallback mode (I think that is what it is called) By the way can anyone point me to what lack of resources causes that to happen? At first I was discouraged until I realized what I had was what many people asked for, a Gnome3 with the familiar features of Gnome2. I have only an Applications menu and a Places menu at the top. Clicking on Applications gives you the familiar hierarchical list of applications. "Magic Workspaces" are not present. The Workspaces sit where they used to be in right corner of the bottom panel. I can fill the upper panel with my favorite application icons that will cause them to run (like Firefox, evolution, etc). gnome-tweak and fedorautils can allow me to configure the Gnome destom in various ways. fedorautils has an option to speed up boot but you are warned services you want may disappear. I find the whole thing familiar and friendly and it answers the wishes of those who miss the Gnome2 feel. -- ======================================================================= brokee, n: Someone who buys stocks on the advice of a broker. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net

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question regarding f16 under various DEs
by Paul Allen Newell 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

Fedora-list: Since fc5, I have always downloaded an iso of the full image of Fedora w/ Gnome. Given the emails on f15 and now f16, I am interested in looking at alternatives to Gnome. After much clicking through the Fedora site, it appears to me that only f16 w/ Gnome has a direct download DVD, all the others are spins which only offer Live or BitTorrent versions (this may be incorrect as I have no idea whether BitTorrent provides a full image DVD or just a Live). The reason I ask is that I have never had any luck with Live images and prefer to install a new release of Fedora as a fresh install and not an update ... and really like having media that has the release on it and not a media that I still need to download more stuff to get the release. Hopefully someone will politely tell me this is a dumb question and I just missed something obvious; otherwise, I will assume that I have to do kde, xfce, lxde, etc via Live. Thanks in advance, Paul

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