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Fedora says Thank You
by Tom Callaway 22 Apr '11

22 Apr '11

First of all, I do not want to take any credit for this idea, it belongs to John Rose, and has been bouncing around, trying to come to life, since July 2010. I am just happy to help it finally hatch! John, Jared, Paul, Max, and I all want to thank Fedora users and contributors for everything that they do in our rich and diverse community. As a small token of our appreciation, we're giving away free Fedora stickers and case badges to any community member who sends us a Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope (SASE). It is our little way of saying thank you for all that you do. Here is a short FAQ: Q: What is a Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope? A: A Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope (SASE) is an envelope with the sender's name and address on it, with affixed paid postage. In the UK, this is also known as a "Stamped Addressed Envelope (SAE)". Q: Where do I send my SASE? A: Red Hat c/o Tom Callaway 314 Littleton Road Westford, MA 01886-4105 Q: How long is this offer good? A: We will return any SASEs that I receive on or before May 31, 2011. Q: How does this work? A: Basically, you write your mailing address on an unsealed envelope and attach paid US postage to that envelope (enough to send a letter to that address from the US). This is your SASE. Next, you put your SASE in another envelope, which you then mail to me at the above address. When I receive it, I will open your envelope, put in some nifty Fedora stickers and case badges, seal it up and drop it back in the mail to you. Q: Is there a limit on how many SASEs I can send you? A: Please, one SASE per person. If you have some sort of complicated situation, feel free to email me directly and we'll work something out (spot(a)fedoraproject.org) Q: Is this offer open to contributors outside the US? A: Of course! We realize that it may not be possible or simple for our international contributors to get their hands on US postage, so you are more than welcome to include an International Reply Coupon instead. (More info about International Reply Coupons can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reply_coupon) If you choose this option, please do not forget to include the self-addressed envelope! Q: I can't find an International Reply Coupon! A: Just email me (spot(a)fedoraproject.org) and let me know, we'll work something out. Q: Can I decorate my SASE? A: Sure. Just remember that it will be coming right back to you. Q: Do I need to prove that I am a Fedora User or Contributor? A: Nope. If you go to the trouble of sending us the SASE, we'll send you stickers and case badges. Q: Can I tweet/dent/facebook/IRC/email/tell my friends about this offer? A: Absolutely. Q: Can I just put some money in the envelope and have you buy postage with it for me? A: No. Any money found in the envelope will go into my 1 year old son's college fund. If postage is a problem, please send me an email (spot(a)fedoraproject.org) Q: Will Fedora or Red Hat keep a record of my mailing address? A: Nope. All we'll do is put stickers and case badges in the envelope, seal it up, and drop it back in the mail. Q: How many stickers and case badges do I get? A: One large Fedora Logo laptop sticker (3 inch) and four small foil "Powered by Fedora" case badges. Q: What do the stickers look like? A: http://spot.fedorapeople.org/sticker-pic.jpg Q: Is this an April Fools Day joke? A: Nope. This is serious. Q: What if I don't use Fedora? A: You can still get stickers. There is no OS check involved. Q: I want more stickers than you normally give out! Can I ask for a few more? A: If you have a special situation, feel free to email me (spot(a)fedoraproject.org) and we'll see what can be done. Q: Is this information on the Fedora website somewhere? A: Yes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Thank_You Q: I have a question that isn't answered here, where can I ask it? A: Email spot(a)fedoraproject.org. Thanks again, ~tom == Fedora Project

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Separate /usr partition
by Robert Nichols 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

I just noticed that ever since Fedora 11 the Installation Guide recommends against having a /usr partition separate from the root file system (though as recently as Fedora 12 the Example Usage still showed a separate /usr). I've always used a separate /usr kept mounted read-only except when necessary for updates. I was wondering just what sort of "boot process becomes more complex" issues I've been fortunate enough to avoid, and whether the reasons for that recommendation have become stronger in more recent releases. -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it.

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Mouse-wheel nudge left-right now generates key-presses, not buttons 6+7
by Neil Bird 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

Since upgrading to Fedora 14 from 12, I'm seeing my wheel-mouse generating the *key* presses <Left> and <Right> instead of the expected button clicks <button-6> and <button-7>. This means that while it still works in, say, Firefox (where <Left> and <Right> scroll the current view), and I can move my caret left and right (!), it won't work anywhere else like it used to (e.g., directory tree views). Any ideas how I can get the old functionality back? # xorg.conf snippet Section "InputDevice" # generated from data in "/etc/sysconfig/mouse" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection # /etc/sysconfig/mouse FULLNAME="Generic - 3 Button Mouse (PS/2)" MOUSETYPE="imps2" XEMU3="no" XMOUSETYPE="IMPS/2" DEVICE=/dev/input/mice -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exit

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[OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"
by John Wendel 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

I thought you guys might get a chuckle from this, My wife just got a shiny new HP laptop with Windows 7 installed. She has never used Windows before, having mainly used Gnome on Fedora boxes. After a week of struggling, she just asked me to wipe Windows and install Fedora so she can get some work done without fighting the desktop. This is when she proclaimed that W7 was, "obviously designed by morons". I guess it depends on what you're familiar with. I personally thought W7 looked very polished. I suspect it could probably be tweaked to work like Gnome, but why bother. Regards, John

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recording from a webcam, cheese, vlc
by Ian Malone 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

Hi, I'm trying to record from a webcam and getting terrible performance from Cheese and problematic performance from VLC. Is anyone able to either tell me how to get one of them working properly or suggest another app that will work? Details (hardware at bottom) Cheese cheese-2.30.1-1.fc13.x86_64, nice, simple to use. Recording performance is awful. The booth framerate is fine, but as soon as I start recording it drops dramatically (going from frames per second to seconds per frame). VLC's ability to encode to the same target - Theora/Vorbis (but see below) and the fact I can do this under windows with the movie maker suggest a Cheese problem. Resolution is at 640x480 (which is what VLC and move maker are using), dropping to 355x288 is okay. This cheese bug seems to be related https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564957 but not resolved. Anyone using F14 with good performance for cheese video recording? VLC vlc-1.1.7-1.fc13.x86_64. Less friendly, for a start I haven't been able to get it to capture by specifying devices in the capture dialog. If I just open capture and hit play I get video and sound. I can use /dev/video0 as the video input and after a bit of trial and error (using debug mode I realise it was using alsa device names) pulse for the audio device, but if I attempt to use the capture device advance options (with or without specifying /dev/video0): Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'v4l2://'. Check the log for details. ~/.xsession-errors has this: [0x7f2dfc0044e0] v4l2 demux error: invalid tuner -1. [0x7f2dfc008240] v4l2 access error: invalid tuner -1. [0x7f2e08008590] main input error: open of `v4l2://' failed: (null) (Or tuner 0 which is what it defaults to, tried -1 as this appears to be auto for other params) But capturing to theora/vorbis results in video and audio playing at different speeds, the default (which seems to be the ALSA hw device) has video faster than audio, capturing to the default (mp4) or webm is okay, using pulse and /dev/video0 webm video is slower than audio... and so on. This most successful approach so far is to open the device in play mode, use the 'advanced controls' record button and capture uncompressed a/v to avi the transcode later. This would be sort of endurable, but it would be nice to record transcoded and be able to adjust the recorded size (camera can go up to 1280x720). I'd also like to be able record both soundcard and webcam audio and video, but it looks like that will never happen with Cheese and may be difficult with VLC, so I may have to accept recording one separately and syncing up later. AMD Athlon X2 5000+ cpu, 2GB RAM Logitech C270HD cam: uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device <unnamed> (046d:0825) input: UVC Camera (046d:0825) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-6/1-6:1.0/input/input5 usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo Thanks for your time, -- imalone

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Unity on Fedora ?
by linux guy 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

Any chance that the Ubuntu Unity project will be "ported" to Fedora ? I want to run it on a tablet. Thanks

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snd_hda_intel clobbers pcspkr
by updog 16 Apr '11

16 Apr '11

Independently pcspkr works fine for the PC speaker, and snd_hda_intel for the internal speakers, however the two modules don't work together. Loading snd_hda_intel after pcspkr is in and working causes loss of the terminal beep. It's a problem in FC13; not sure about older releases or FC14. How to best approach resolving this?

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native texlive and yum
by Walter Cazzola 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Dear Fedora Experts, bored of the several problems of the texlive 2010 distribution for fedora (see my previous message about the missed hyphenation and the 1-month old broken dependency on the latex binary) I have decides to remove it and reinstall it through tlmgr. That has been a great idea except for a couple of issues on some *nonrelated" packages. To remove texlive yum forced the remotion of a2ps and R-core (and few other but these are the most important for me) and I can't reinstall them without reinstalling texlive (at least in part). Now I've already installed texlive but not through yum and I'm wondering why the rpm for these packages not really related to LaTeX and in any case working also without LaTeX can't check for the bins instead of the whole package. Is there a way for forcing their installation without installing texlive? Thanks all for the help Walter -- Walter Cazzola, PhD - Associate Professor, DICo, University of Milano E-mail: cazzola(a)dico.unimi.it Ph.: +39 02 503 16300 Fax: +39 02 503 16253 · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- · · · ... recursive: adjective, see recursive ... · · · ---------------------------- · · · ---------------------------- · · ·

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Re: My "swap" space seems to have vanished....
by DB 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

On 03/18/2011 04:42 PM, users-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > Subject: > Re: My "swap" space seems to have vanished.... > From: > "Michael D. Setzer II" <mikes(a)kuentos.guam.net> > Date: > Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:42:33 +1000 > > To: > Martin Airs <martin(a)airs.me.uk>, users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > > On 18 Mar 2011 at 15:34, Martin Airs wrote: > > From: Martin Airs<martin(a)airs.me.uk> > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: My "swap" space seems to have vanished.... > Date sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:34:10 +0000 > Send reply to: Martin Airs<martin(a)airs.me.uk>, > Community support for Fedora users<users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > <mailto:users-request@lists.fedoraproject.org?subject=unsubscribe> > <mailto:users-request@lists.fedoraproject.org?subject=subscribe> > >> > On Friday 18 Mar 2011 14:46:23 DB wrote: >>> > > df >>> > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on >>> > > /dev/sda2 28833848 5518600 23022388 20% / >>> > > tmpfs 1899484 1068 1898416 1% /dev/shm >>> > > /dev/sda1 474440 50462 399481 12% /boot >>> > > /dev/sda3 288370940 26611056 247111416 10% /home >>> > > >> > > Your swap is part of the LVM partitions. I don't have LVM partitions - at least, I never set any up!!! > cat /proc/partitions > > On mine it shows > major minor #blocks name > > 8 0 488386584 sda > 8 1 204800 sda1 > 8 2 32696288 sda2 > 8 3 455482912 sda3 > 253 0 27123712 dm-0 > 253 1 5570560 dm-1 > > In this case dm-1 is the swap partition. > > swapon -s shows the status of the swap. > > On my system. > Filename Type Size Used Priority > /dev/dm-1 partition 5570556 2156 -1 Yes, mine is similar swapon -s Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/sdb5 partition 2047996 0 -1 > > > > >> > df -h on my system doesn't show swap either >> > >> > [martin@desktop ~]$ df -h >> > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on >> > /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root >> > 22G 20G 904M 96% / >> > tmpfs 1005M 3.3M 1001M 1% /dev/shm >> > /dev/sda1 194M 62M 123M 34% /boot >> > /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_home >> > 50G 38G 9.5G 80% /home >> > /dev/sdb1 112G 95G 18G 85% /media/disk >> > >>> > > >>> > > Dave >>> > > >>> > > uname -ar >>> > > Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 7 07:06:44 UTC >>> > > 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >> > >> > however if i type free -m >> > [martin@desktop ~]$ free -m >> > total used free shared buffers cached >> > Mem: 2008 1759 248 0 100 585 >> > -/+ buffers/cache: 1073 934 >> > Swap: 3967 16 3951 >> > >> > my swap is indeed there, does free show swap on your system?? Indeed: free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 3709 2013 1696 0 102 1139 -/+ buffers/cache: 770 2939 Swap: 1999 0 1999 >> > >> > Martin >> > Thanks all for the many suggestions! Strangely, just after I sent my original mail, System Monitor suddenly decided, all on its own, to add the 2GB swap partition....??????? I think I must have a Gremlin somewhere! Anyway, things appear to be (back to) "normal"! Thanks again Dave

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CPU utilization
by Luc MAIGNAN 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hi, I want to see and/or monitor cpu utilization. I have a server that have 24 processors (6 processor x 4 core). top only gives me global information for cpu, not per cpu (and core) Is there a tool or a way to have these informations ? BR Luc RHCE

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