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Obsolete RPMs
by Dave Cross 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

I've upgraded a couple of systems from F14 to F15 using preupgrade. Everything seems to have gone fine. I'm slowly getting used to GNOME 3 and I'm sure that it will make sense to me one day. But it strikes me that there will now be a number of obsolete RPMs hanging around on my system. These will be the RPMs relating to features used in GNOME 2 but not in GNOME 3. I'm thinking of things like compiz and all of the applets. Is there any reason why I shouldn't just remove all of these RPMs? Are there any more that I can remove safely? Cheers, Dave.... -- Dave Cross :: dave(a)dave.org.uk http://dave.org.uk/ @davorg

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Garbled display and touchpad configuration
by cfunder108＠gmail.com 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

Ok folks I know everyone is busy but it's time to actually sit down and write a driver for the ATI Radeon card used in a lot of laptops. This has been a topic/bug in the forums since 2008 without being resolved and the work-arounds aren't working. The garbled display is really getting to be overwhelming and the symantic touchpad is not functional and this is been going on since Fedore 13 and Ubuntu 10. It seem Linux is turning into an Intel/Dell shop. I'm running on a Gateway netbook LT3101u CPU - AMD ATHLON 64 ATI Radeon graphic card. +++ I am a simple user -- I'm not a developer or programmer by any means or form. So please Help us out.++++ I think I will have to figure out which modules are required for my laptop and remove the unused modules from being loaded at boot. Also when I'm using Firefox and hit a website with active content puff the desktop and display become garbled lsmod Module Size Used by vfat 8720 1 fat 44848 1 vfat fuse 62289 3 sunrpc 195388 1 8021q 18723 0 garp 6087 1 8021q stp 1951 1 garp llc 4716 2 garp,stp ip6t_REJECT 4048 2 nf_conntrack_ipv6 7978 1 nf_defrag_ipv6 9531 1 nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter 1695 1 ip6_tables 16850 1 ip6table_filter snd_hda_codec_realtek 325262 1 arc4 1457 2 ath9k 91484 0 snd_hda_intel 23694 2 snd_hda_codec 80822 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 6368 1 snd_hda_codec snd_seq 52438 0 snd_seq_device 6001 1 snd_seq snd_pcm 78484 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec mac80211 234498 1 ath9k ath9k_common 2633 1 ath9k ath9k_hw 272393 2 ath9k,ath9k_common uvcvideo 54609 0 snd_timer 19593 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm ath 14564 2 ath9k,ath9k_hw cfg80211 135850 3 ath9k,mac80211,ath acerhdf 8945 0 microcode 18117 0 edac_core 40712 0 videodev 63426 1 uvcvideo snd 62686 12 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer joydev 9635 0 v4l2_compat_ioctl32 6697 1 videodev edac_mce_amd 13274 0 serio_raw 4426 0 k8temp 3775 0 r8169 35525 0 wmi 9105 0 sp5100_tco 5333 0 soundcore 6299 1 snd rfkill 16552 1 cfg80211 snd_page_alloc 7431 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm shpchp 24582 0 mii 4318 1 r8169 i2c_piix4 10526 0 ipv6 282108 27 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6,nf_defrag_ipv6 ata_generic 3675 0 pata_acpi 3443 0 usb_storage 45615 1 uas 7783 0 pata_atiixp 4189 0 video 12432 0 radeon 688160 2 ttm 55120 1 radeon drm_kms_helper 27515 1 radeon drm 187984 4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit 5014 1 radeon i2c_core 25468 6 videodev,i2c_piix4,radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit -- ceco

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Missing depentencies during the installation. partially fixed
by Vinny Onelli 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

> Hello, > I installed F15 first on laptop, I had rough time with gnome3, after > restore all file it worked some what decent, with some of this forum > help. I then decided to upgrade the desktop Dell Dimension 8300, from > F14 to F15. Apparently that was not a thing to do, F14 was working > great. After clean installation I fallow all the add on installation > that I had done on the laptop but I could not get the same thing, like > icons on the screen similar to gnome 2, the email I can receive but I > can't send, same setting of the working laptop. I then remember that > during the installation the message came on for missing dependencies, > I choose to continue, I thought, that may have been the problem. > I try to install it again this time I choose "customize later" > it still came up with the same message. I thought here is the time to > go back to F14 so I started my old F14 installation disk, and again > > leave the selection to customize later I got the same message missing > dependencies, this disk I used before in the very same computer. > Am I to thing that is some thing wrong with computer? > Any help is greatly appreciated. Vinny It seam that the dependencies problem was due to the choosing the additional repository "Fedora update" during the installation I reinstalled F15 without doing that and went through OK the rest is still a problem most important is the email, if can't be solved I need to go back to F14. The following is from gnome-tweak-tool it show some warning and errors are these relevant? [root@Lab2 ~]# gnome-tweak-tool INFO : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.desktop.interface> INFO : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.desktop.background> INFO : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.nautilus.desktop> INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /desktop/gnome/shell/windows/theme> (--short-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /desktop/gnome/shell/windows/theme> (--long-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/action_double_click_titlebar> (--short-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/action_double_click_titlebar> (--long-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/action_middle_click_titlebar> (--short-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/action_middle_click_titlebar> (--long-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/action_right_click_titlebar> (--short-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/action_right_click_titlebar> (--long-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/focus_mode> (--short-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/focus_mode> (--long-docs) INFO : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.shell.clock> INFO : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.shell.calendar> INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /desktop/gnome/shell/windows/button_layout> (--short-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /desktop/gnome/shell/windows/button_layout> (--long-docs) INFO : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power> INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/titlebar_font> (--short-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/titlebar_font> (--long-docs) INFO : Caching gconf: <gtweak.gconf.GConfSetting: /apps/metacity/general/titlebar_font> (--short-docs) INFO : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings> INFO : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.shell> WARNING : Error listing extensions Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtweak/tweaks/tweak_shell_extensions.py", line 146, in __init__ for extension in shell.list_extensions().values(): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtweak/gshellwrapper.py", line 54, in list_extensions out = self._proxy.execute_js('const ExtensionSystem = imports.ui.extensionSystem; ExtensionSystem.extensionMeta') File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtweak/gshellwrapper.py", line 35, in execute_js result, output = self._proxy.Eval('(s)', js) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/overrides/Gio.py", line 148, in __call__ kwargs.get('flags', 0), kwargs.get('timeout', -1), None) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/types.py", line 44, in function return info.invoke(*args) GError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.Shell was not provided by any .service files (gnome-tweak-tool:2028): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.7D68XV': No such file or directory (gnome-tweak-tool:2028): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory [root@Lab2 ~]#

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Need Support For Hardware & Live Usb Issue + Bugs version 0.1
by Navdeep Singh Sidhu 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

I have Dell Xps 15 with config:- 8 Gb RAM 2nd generation i7 processor 2.2 GHz Boost 2.0 upto 3.30 GHz Dual Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 & nvidia geforce GT 540M with Optimus Techonology 720 GB hardisk Motherboard Dell XPS system L502X Intel centrino 6230 Network Card with BT 3.0 I have installed 2 linux distro on my External USB portable seagate 500 GB hardisk fedora 15 & Ubuntu 11.04. i have installed these distro by using HP pavilion dv 2762 tx with config:- Core2duo 1.83Ghz 2Gb ram nvidia geforce 9600m graphics card Both these distro works with all other older laptops Like HP, Dell studio 1 yr old config , Compaq 5 yr old, but not on my Dell XPS 15. To check my laptops hardware compatibility i used a Ubuntu 10.10 live Cd. it works fine . i use this cd as a live media but when i tried same Ubuntu 10.10 on live usb it gives blank screen or error which i mentioned below. To check that my iso file damaged or my download has been corrupted or not, i tried different distros with different desktop enviornment like Gnome,KDE,Xcfe & Lxde. i tried fedora 15, ubuntu 10.10, ubuntu 10.04, ubuntu 11.04. slackware,eduboss each with avail flavors. But all i have tried gives almost same error with each distro. i don't know what is this some kind of bug or lack of support with dell chipset (hardware). if live cd boots well then i think there is nohardware compatibility issue with linux. I think this is lack of usb support because may be Linux has no support until now for latest motherboards or hardware architects. These are the errors i got with different distros. i am not able to figure out what's going on bcz i'm rookie in Linux programming. But if anyone can do it, plz help me i haven't run my linux from previous 1 and half month and i'm a linux addicted. starting from Fedora 15 gnome(almost same for kde except starting numbers) error:- [ 2.571729] [drm:intel_drm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO CALL FAILED [ 2.571847] [drm:intel_drm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO CALL FAILED Dropping to debug shell. sh.can't acess tty:job control off dracut:/# Fedora 15 LXDE [ 2.514402] nonveau 0000:01:00.0:invalid ROM contents [ 2.614971] [drm] nonveau 0000:01:00.0:POINTER to BIT load vol table invalid [ 2.639331] [drm] nonveau 0000:01:00.0:0xd518:12cwr fail: -6 [ 2.75332] [drm] nonveau 0000:01:00.0:PGRAPH:unsupported chipset,please report! [ 2.753646] [drm] nonveau 0000:01:00.0:PGRAPH:unknown config:2/0/0/0,1 [ 2.755342] [drm] nonveau 0000:01:00.0: failed to load fuc 409 d [ 2.919340] [drm:intel_drm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO CALL FAILED [ 2.919447] [drm:intel_drm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO CALL FAILED Dropping to debug shell. sh.can't acess tty:job control off dracut:/# Fedora 15 XCFE [ 2.563563] [drm:intel_drm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO CALL FAILED [ 2.563680] [drm:intel_drm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO CALL FAILED Dropping to debug shell. sh.can't acess tty:job control off dracut:/# EDUBOSS (Debian derivative) (I apologize but i have write the full error i got bcz may be it helps somebody to find what's going on) BOOT FAILED ! The debian live image failed to boot. Please file a bug against the 'live-initramfs' package or email the debian Live mailing list at < debian-live(a)lists.debian.org> make sure to note the exact version, name and distribution of the image you were attempt to boot. The file /live.log contains same debugging information but booting with debug command line parameter will greatly increase it's verbosity which is extremely useful when diagnosing issues. live-initramfs will start a shell. The error message was: Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. Busy Box v.1.10.2 (Debian 1:1.10.2-2) built in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built in commands. <bin/sh:can't access tty:job control turned off (initramfs)- Ubuntu 11.04 Gnome Black screen nothing. Ubuntu 10.10 & 10.04 gnome (Both gave same error "Backtrack 5 also" bcz it is ubuntu 10.04 based distro) GLIB_________________________(some kind of error i could note bcz it stays for few seconds) stdin:error0 /init:line7:can't open /dev/sr0:no medium found /init:line7:can't open /dev/sr0:no medium found same error repeating I also tried to check disc for error option but same error as above . Slackware Bcz it's command line it has direct option of installation no live media. I have created live usb using unetbootin latest version. if i get any update regarding problem soon i'll release it's second version. lolz!!! [?][?] [?][?][?][?] Regards Navdeep Singh

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F15: evince doesn't print
by antonio montagnani 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

When I use Evince to print on my Samsung ML-1610 printer I get an error from the printer: same PDF from Xpdf is printed fine. Any help?? -- Antonio -------------------------------------------- Prima di stampare pensa all'ambiente Think about environment before printing Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora 15 Lovelock on Casa Linux user number 362582 http://www.campingmonterosa.com http://www.studiodacolpaloschi.it -------------------------------------------

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F15 - Shotwell no longer supports tabbed paper?
by Brian C. Huffman 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

All, In F14, I was able to make beautiful printouts of my photos on my HP Photosmart printer. Now I'm unable to find the option to select the 4x6 photo paper with tabs. Am I missing something? Thanks, Brian

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Can't control text size in Gnome-3
by Jonathan Ryshpan 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

I have just upgraded from Fedora-13 to Fedora-15, and now font size for many of the functions in Gnome-3 can't be controlled, in particular the size of the pull-down menus and some of the window text in Evolution. The "Text Size" (Little Man)->Universal Access Settings->Seeing->Text size box is completely non-functional, as is the Text scaling factor slider in (gnome-tweak-tool)->Fonts The font control functions for the various fonts in the same box seem to control come fonts, in particular the fonts in gnome-terminal, but not others, in particular not Evolution. What's particularly puzzling is that the Text size choices in Universal Access Settings did work for a while, but then stopped -- while they were working they were linked to the slider on gnome-tweak-settings. The fonts that are now used, probably the defaults, are painfully small. Any Ideas? Thanks - jon

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Question about SMART
by Paolo Galtieri 09 Jul '11

09 Jul '11

I have 2 Seagate FreeAgent Go 1Tb drives. These are portable drives that get their power through USB. Both these drives are about 1 year old. Every time I login I get a notification that both these drives may be going bad. The reason is too many bad sectors. One drive is formatted as it originally came, i.e NTFS the other was reformatted as Ext4. I have checked both drives using Seagate's tools (in non destructive mode) as well as checking the NTFS one in Windows 7. No problems where reported. The question is should I really believe what SMART is telling me or is it just stupid :-) There are no disk errors reported or any other issues that might indicate the drive is going bad. Any thoughts/comments are appreciated. Paolo

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thunderbird (and firefox) stable
by Genes MailLists 09 Jul '11

09 Jul '11

I remember some earlier discussion on this but not the outcome forgive me if a clear decision was made. The current dev model for TB (similarly for firefox) is 4 versions where each version is distinguished by the leading number in the version string. As new versions are released to stable (from beta) the leading number bumps - so tracking stable requires following the stable branch which at the moment for TB is 5.0 (beta being 6.x, earlybird being 7.x and bleeding edge being 8.x) F15 still has 3.1 - is there some reason F15 should not follow the stable releases of upstream? Thanks gene/

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Customized ibus/anthy shortcuts no longer work
by Stuart McGraw 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

My Ibus/Anthy IME (on Fedora 15) no longer honors the keyboard shortcut changes I made. A couple weeks ago I installed F15 and Ibus/Anthy and changed the keyboard shortcut to enable/disable the IME from Ctrl-Space to Alt-Space. It worked fine until a few days ago when I noticed it's reverted to Ctrl-Space. However Ibus Preferences still shows Alt-Space. Resetting the shortcut has no effect. I disabled Ibus with the Gnome IME applet, deleted .cache/ibus, .config/ibus, .gconf/desktop/ibus, .anthy and then (after logging in again) re-added ibus. (Curiously, the enable/disable shortcuts are empty, not reset to the defaults, so I think I missed deleting some config file somewhere) There were some updates to ibus possibly around the time my customized keyboard shortcuts stopped working. (Packages on my system are up-to-date except for 'kernel*') Anyone have an idea how I can fix this and get my preferred shortcuts to work again?? It is a fairly major problem for me right now.

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