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hdmi audio kernel bug?
by Tom Horsley 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

I've just found and followed the magical instructions here: http://analogbit.com/fix_nvidia_edid to eradicate the nvidia driver HDMI audio support by convincing it the TV I'm using doesn't support HDMI audio. It works great, but I'm wondering why having the HDMI audio device exist prevented the onboard Nvidia CK804 audio from working at all? Both audio devices showed up in the gnome control center sound app. I could select the CK804 as the default, but it would never play sound. Is this an alsa bug of some kind? Or ham fisted clobbering of alsa by the kmod-nvidia binary driver? Anyplace I should report it? (It is ironic that another system I wanted to use HDMI audio on had an unsupported ATI card, and the system I don't want to use HDMI audio on has an nvidia card clobbering the other audio :-).

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Good hardware compatibility info?
by Tom Horsley 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

Since my computer died, I'm looking at building a brand new system, and I wonder about all the fancy new stuff available in the hardware and linux support (fedora in particular). Other than beating my head against google, is there a good resource for researching this stuff? I'm wondering about things like USB 3.0, sata 3.0, UEFI BIOS, Sandy Bridge, i7 processors, Intel HD 3000 graphics, etc.

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Does the Asus Xonar DG sound card work well in F14?
by Richard Shaw 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

I'm having issues with my builtin audio. At first I thought it was the new speakers I bought. I know they're not quite as my Cambridge Soundworks but the external 5.1 decoder is having issues so I figured it was time. I hear a high tinny noise and assumed it was the cheap amplifier but after plugging in some old but nice SGI headphones I still heard it. To that end I'm in the market for an inexpensive sound card but don't want to go too cheap and get something equivalent to my onboard audio. I found the Asus Xonar DG[1] for a decent price but it uses the CMI8786 which is supported in alsa 1.0.24 (which I have) OR kernel 2.6.38, which I don't. I'm really hoping the OR is right and it's not supposed to be an AND. Interestingly enough this chip doesn't appear to have internal volume controls so I'll have to rely on PulseAudio. Anyone have this card working (well)? Even though it's not a big investment I'd like to know someone has it working. Richard

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Gnome Shell updates?
by SternData 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

I've been reviewing bugzilla for reported bugs in Gnome 3.0 and it seems that there's no action taking place on them. Does anyone know what's going on upstream? Are bugs being researched? Addressed? Fixes tested? My bugs of interest are Pressing Alt-Tab crashes gnome shell: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730063 Unable to access shell after system has been idle for several hours: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716444 -- -- Steve

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Version of packages in repository
by Luc MAIGNAN 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

Hi, When I do a 'yum search', I find the packages available in repository but not their versions (unless I do a yum install). How to find the version of the packages without trying to install them ? BR

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R: Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...
by antonio montagnani 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

>----Messaggio originale---- >Da: ibmalone(a)gmail.com >Data: 2-set-2011 11.51 >A: "Community support for Fedora users"<users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> >Ogg: Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try... > >On 1 September 2011 21:15, Linda McLeod <lindavaldeen(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >> >> >> I love this Fedora-14, and everything Red Hat, but Fedora-15 is a lot >> like those vile Windows OS's.. > >Essentially, every time I see a post like this I stop reading as soon >as it tries to argue that something is wrong because it's like >Windows. Reductio ad Gates is not a valid demonstration that something >is undesireable and successive attempts at doing it commonly vary >between 'this is obscure', 'this is oversimplified', 'this isn't >configurable to my liking' and 'I don't like it'. All of those on >their own might be good reasons to object to a design or feature and >might be points worth discussing, but lots of people seem to thing >that the Linux community is about Not Being Windows and that if you >can equate something you don't like to Windows in some way then you've >proved that it's undesireable. This is simply not true. > >-- >imalone >-- >users mailing list >users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users>Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > For sure, Gnome 3 is far from Windows. I suggest an easy test: install a brand new Fedora 15 and let a Windows user start to use it (someone who never saw a Linux system), report his experience

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Starting system logger: [FAILED]
by Michael Hennebry 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

To get more space in a file system, I've been playing with partitions. When I was done, it wouldn't boot into graphics mode. The filling icon never got quite full. Using function keys to get into a virtual console, I noticed lots of messages. Some indicated success and some ended with [FAILED]. The first three of the latter are Starting system logger: Starting irqbalance: Starting system message bus: Previously, /dev/sdb10 was ext4, held / and used most of its 20 GB and /dev/sdb11 was ext4, held /var and used little ot its 20 GB. After /dev/sdb10 was still ext4, held / and used about a quarter of its 80 GB and /dev/sdb11 was ext3, held /var and used little of its 10 GB. To do that, I booted into another partition, copied sdb11 into another directory using --preserve=all, removed sdb11, removed sdb10, added sdb10, bigger starting in its old starting place, added sdb11, making it 10 GB, made sdb11 ext3, labeled sdb10 and sdb11 sata400-10 and sata400-11 . copied /var back into sdb11, resized the filesystem on sdb10, edited fstab to use the labels on sdb10 and sdb11 instead of UUIDs, rebooted into sdb10, sort of. After the first time, I rememberd that fstab still had sdb11 as ext4. Changing it to ext3 didn't help. fsck gives sdb10 and sdb11 clean bills of health. How do I go about debugging this? Going into a text virtual console gets me a login prompt that works. demsg | less doesn't help. Is there somewhere else I should look? It's 4:50 A.M. in the morning. Do you know whereyour head is? -- Michael hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."

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sometimes my F15 doesn't boot
by Eric Doutreleau 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

Hi i m using F15 with the latest updates and from times to times my machine doesn't boot. it seems to hang just before starting X Fortunately i can ssh to it and i see the following thing systemctl list-units | grep dead getty(a)tty2.service loaded inactive dead start Getty on tty2 getty(a)tty3.service loaded inactive dead start Getty on tty3 getty(a)tty4.service loaded inactive dead start Getty on tty4 getty(a)tty5.service loaded inactive dead start Getty on tty5 getty(a)tty6.service loaded inactive dead start Getty on tty6 plymouth...t-wait.service loaded inactive dead start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit prefdm.service loaded inactive dead start Display Manager getty.target loaded inactive dead start Login Prompts How can i debug this problem? -- Eric Doutreleau

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Gnome3: don't have anymore the language selection box and the keyboard selection box in gdm
by Eric Doutreleau 02 Sep '11

02 Sep '11

Hi I have just installed fedora15 and therefore move to gnome3. we have several hundreds of pc in lab environnement where 4000+ users can log in. There s a lot of different nationalities among these users and i have dozens of languages installed. In fedora 13 people could select ( after typing their login ) selecting: the WM The language the keyboard Now i have only access to the choose of WM. Does someone know how i can get back the two other selection box? Thanks in advance for any help -- Eric Doutreleau

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preupgrade or netinstall from i686 to x86_64
by Robert McBroom 01 Sep '11

01 Sep '11

I don't see an option in preupgrade to go from F13 i686 to F14 x86_64. Is it possible? >>> You could try but you really would not like doing it. If you have 32 bit programs you want to continue to use, There is a "multilb" install that keeps the ability to run such. It requires synchronizatrion of all the system code and libraries between the x86 and x86_64. They are constantly getting out of synchronization causing yum to fail until the offending package can be manually brought back into sync. Ffinding your way from an upgrade of F13 to F14 then to F14 with updates will be painful. You can keep some of your customization with a backup of /home and anything else you want to keep. The system settings stored in /etc are much more difficult. If you have the disk space you could install the F14 x86_64 as a dual boot then get the various parts of your earlier system and copy them to the new. Robert McBroom

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