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yum installed name only?
by Frank Murphy 04 May '13

04 May '13

Trying to do a yum version of: rpm -qa --queryformat %10(NAME) > ~/var/tmp/box1.list yum list installed ? -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com

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Re: OpenJRE or Oracle Jre
by poma 04 May '13

04 May '13

On 04.05.2013 09:59, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 04.05.2013 03:19, schrieb poma: >> On 04.05.2013 00:41, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 04.05.2013 00:26, schrieb poma:> On 04.05.2013 00:01, Jim wrote: >>>>> Fedora 18 ,is there openJRE instead of Oracles JRE ? >>>>> >>>>> What Packages would I download ? >>>> >>>> alternatives --config java ;) >>> >>> is not a package isn't it? >>> please do not answer if you do not have one >> >> Please don't tell me or anyone else what to do and how to do, >> señor Bernardo Gui. ;) > > someone needs to do if the question is "which package" and you > answer with a irrelevant command Irrelevant, for someone with a narrow perspective, certainly. :) >>> "yum install java-1.7.0-openjdk" is the answer >>> "yum install icedtea-web" is the answer for the browser plugin >> […] >> >> Aren't you the one who wrote such beautiful words just for this >> package[1]. :) >> [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/431767.html > > yes, and in my reply written long before yours i explicitly said > do NOT install it if you have no very good reason Justify it anyway you want. ;) poma

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Expectation of privacy
by William Oliver 04 May '13

04 May '13

In another thread, respondents debated the expectation of privacy regarding email. I think this is a reasonable topic for an email mailing list, since there are many differing perceptions. Of course, laws and customs vary across the world. In the United States, there is a rather complex hierarchy of limitations of scrutiny of electronic communication, particularly by the government. In general, there is: 1) No recgnized expectation of privacy with respect to most header information (to, from, addressing and routing information, etc). 2) No recognized expectation of privacy regarding aggregate information that would be logged by a provider (number of emails sent, websites visited, amount of data transmitted, etc). 3) There is variable expectation of privacy regarding the content of the email. 3a) There is a reasonable expectation of privacy regarding email sent from one person to one other person. 3b) With respect to mailinglist emails, the Supreme Court concluded in US v Maxwell: "Expectations of privacy in e-mail transmissions depend in large part on the type of e-mail involved and the intended recipient. Messages sent to the public at large in the "chat room" or e-mail that is "forwarded" from correspondent to correspondent lose any semblance of privacy. Once these transmissions are sent out to more and more subscribers, the subsequent expectation of privacy incrementally diminishes. This loss of an expectation of privacy, however, only goes to these specific pieces of mail for which privacy interests were lessened and ultimately abandoned." 4) Finally, emails that are *stored after reading* on a server lose the expectation of privacy. The analogy the courts used was that of a paper letter. A sealed letter delivered to a recipient carries an expectation of privacy. Once the recipient has opened the letter, the expectation of privacy depends on what he or she does with it -- it is the responsibility of the recipient, not the sender. If the recipient puts the letter in a safe, it retains the expectation. If the recipient leaves it sitting on the table and walks away, it loses the expectation of privacy. In the eyes of the court, saving an email on a server constitutes putting it on the desk and walking away. Similarly, abandoned emails lose the expectation, just as abandoned letters do. Thus, email that is stored on a server eventually loses its expectation of privacy even if not read. In addition, there are differences in *who* can read emails. For instance, while the government may be limited in some instances, a private company can read any communications made by any employee on a company machine, at least if there is notification somewhere. The effect of warnings, banners, and statements of privacy are variable, depending on the relationship of the sender and recipient. Generally, the banners are effective in removing rather than providing an expectation of privacy. They seem to be meaningless in a practical manner with it comes to multiple recipient emails sent outside a closed organization. In my profession as a forensic pathologist, I am frequently called to court. Occasionally I, and some of my colleagues, have been surprised to find that emails we sent to mailinglists of various sorts pop up as exhibits when people attempt to challenge our testimony. The admission of these has never been successfully challenged on the basis of expectation of privacy in any of the cases I'm aware of. Any person who expects that their emails to a mailinglist are private is, at least in the US, doomed to disappointment. If you don't want your emails published generally, don't send them to a mailinglist. billo

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Errors on Boot-Up
by Bill Kuns 03 May '13

03 May '13

Dear Helpers: When I do manage to boot up my Fedora System, I get these remarks on the screen: [ 11.034216] ata5: COMRESET Failed (errno =-16) [ 21.050448] ata5: COMRESET Failed (errno =-16) [ 68.199577] ata5: COMRESET Failed (errno =-16) [ 78.235808] ata5: COMRESET Failed (errno =-16) [ 117.824319] ata5: COMRESET Failed (errno =-16) [ 127.860509] ata5: COMRESET Failed (errno =-16) [ 161.385877] ata5: COMRESET Failed (errno =-16) [ 171.422106] ata5: COMRESET Failed (errno =-16) After that, the system goes ahead and boots. The next time, I get the same number of errors, but the numbers are different. Do I need to fix this? How? Thanks, -- Bill Kuns <am497(a)CyberMesa.com>

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Re: OpenJRE or Oracle Jre
by poma 03 May '13

03 May '13

On 04.05.2013 00:41, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 04.05.2013 00:26, schrieb poma:> On 04.05.2013 00:01, Jim wrote: >>> Fedora 18 ,is there openJRE instead of Oracles JRE ? >>> >>> What Packages would I download ? >> >> alternatives --config java ;) > > is not a package isn't it? > please do not answer if you do not have one Please don't tell me or anyone else what to do and how to do, señor Bernardo Gui. ;) > "yum install java-1.7.0-openjdk" is the answer > "yum install icedtea-web" is the answer for the browser plugin […] Aren't you the one who wrote such beautiful words just for this package[1]. :) poma [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/431767.html

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Network Manager Problems
by Lawrence E Graves 03 May '13

03 May '13

I have reported the fact that I am having trouble with connecting to my 5ghz wifito bugzilla. Was that the place to report. If not where do I report this problem. I am running Fedora 19 Beta TC2 on Dell 9400 Inspiron with iwl4965 card which handles 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands. I replaced the card and then installed Fedora 18 and it worked fine so that told me it was not my cardbut problem with network manager. -- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6

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F18 sometimes mouse freezes only on application menus
by Antonio M 03 May '13

03 May '13

sometimes on my F18 (that is updated since F10) I cannot use mouse on menus of applications but same mouse is working on Gnome menus, I have to re-open session and everything works fine. Not sure but it happens more frequently after computer is left unused for some time. Any idea where to look?? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F18(Spherical Cow) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com

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virsh ok with TLS but virt-viewer not
by Fernando Lozano 03 May '13

03 May '13

Hi there, I folowed instructions on: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/TLSSetup To setup TLS conections to a qemu+kvm host, for remote administration. I guess I did everything right, because sudo virsh -c qemu+tls://myhost/system Works fine. So far every command I tried is ok. Giving the same URL to virt-manager also works. But I cannot open any guest console, be it from virt-manager or from virt-viewer. If I try: sudo virt-viewer -c qemu+tls://myhost/system 1 I get an error pop-up telling "Unable to connect to graphics server myhost:5900" And from virt-manager, the guest console shows "Connecting to graphical console for guest" and nothing happens. No error message, not even timeout. :-( But I can inspect and even change the guest details. On the guest details, it shows "Display Spice" at addres 127.0.0.1 and port 5900 with auto TLS port, and no password. Should I change those settings to get remote access to a guest console? If so, how, as I cannot find info at either libvirt.org nor virt-manager.org. If I use a qemu+ssh URL it works for virsh and virt-manager, including gest consoles, but using virt-viewer won't work even using ssh. So I suppose something is missing, but I have no idea what. The end goal is being able to use both virsh and virt-viewer under Windows, and their README state that ssh connections won't work yet. []s, Fernando Lozano

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HDMI audio stops then starts again?
by Tom Horsley 03 May '13

03 May '13

Just wondering if this sounds familiar. I installed updates this morning and rebooted to get the latest kernel-3.8.9-200.fc18.x86_64 running. I'm using HDMI audio by default and it was working fine for a few hours then suddenly stopped. I turned on my receiver and switched to SPDIF output, and had sound again, so parts of the sound system were working OK. I tried switching back to HDMI and "Test Speakers" made a rude noise once, but never played the test sound, so I switched to SPDIF again. About an hour later, I tried HDMI once more and it was now working flawlessly. There were no messages in any logs I could find about anything happening to audio. Just another in the strange happenings since I started using 3.8 kernels...

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F17 recalcitrant X server
by Beartooth 03 May '13

03 May '13

My wife's machine downstairs (built for us by a friend who speaks hardware; I do not) has been hitting the Diagonal Screen of Death (DSoD); it brings up the login screen with both our names, and lets you choose one. You type in userid and password, and whammo : DSoD. In that condition it does however let me login over ssh and become root. I did so, ran yum update (no trouble with that), and did a reboot. No joy. I tried startx. [root@Msgv2 ~]# startx xauth: file /root/.serverauth.1267 does not exist [....] Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: VT_ACTIVATE failed: No such device or address It referred me to wiki.x.org, where I found only discussions well over my head. But the directions there recommended trying to configure, and I tried : [root@Msgv2 log]# X -configure Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again. It said : Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" for additional information. I did that : [root@Msgv2 tmp]# rm .X0-lock rm: remove regular file `.X0-lock'? y [root@Msgv2 tmp]# cd [root@Msgv2 ~]# X -configure _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running At this point, it looks to me like a catch-22 -- wie man's auch macht, is' es verkehrt. Can anybody spare me a clue? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

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