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RE: retrofitting LUKS encryption on installed system
by J.Witvliet＠mindef.nl 01 Jul '13

01 Jul '13

-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Fred Smith Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:42 PM To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: retrofitting LUKS encryption on installed system I've got a F19 installation that I'd like to turn into a fully encrypted system with LUKS. There are many howtos on the web for encrypting a partition, but they all show doing it to /home. -----Original Message----- No, just re-install. One partition with /boot and another with an encrypted volume-group, holding /, swap and the rest. But before embarking on that trip, do you really need full disk encryption? I mean, the content of /usr is on any fedora-cd ;-) And when up-and-running, everything is unlocked. The only valid reason I can think about, is that other people have physically access to your machine and could get root-access by booting from cd/dvd, and might alter your system. It surely works, but at a performance price. And the certainty that you have to enter the LUKS-key each time you boot. ______________________________________________________________________ Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het electronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages.

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File open/save dialog sort order
by Michael Eager 01 Jul '13

01 Jul '13

I reinstalled Fedora 18 with KDE and I notice a change in the order in which directories and files are displayed. In some applications, the sort is now case sensitive, so that all the initial capitals are listed before the initial lower case names. Previously, the names were sorted without case sensitivity. I see this behavior in Firefox, Thunderbird, Acroread and others. There are other application where the file dialog sorts files using a case insensitive sort, like Dolphin, k3b, or kget. I edited kdeglobals to add "Sort case insensitively=true" to the [KFileDialog Settings] section. This should be the default. It did not make any difference. Any suggestions on how to set the file name sort order? -- Michael Eager eager(a)eagercon.com 1960 Park Blvd., Palo Alto, CA 94306 650-325-8077

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F18 and GoogleEarth
by Ranjan Maitra 01 Jul '13

01 Jul '13

So, I decided to try installing GoogleEarth (GE) for the first time ever. I found the following: http://fedora18tutorial.blogspot.com/2012/12/how-to-install-google-earth-on… and tried it the following: % wget -c http://dl.google.com/dl/earth/client/current/google-earth-stable_current_x8… %sudo yum localinstall google-earth-stable_current_x86_64.rpm But I got the following: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/bin from install of google-earth-stable-7.1.1.1871-0.x86_64 conflicts with file from package filesystem-3.1-2.fc18.x86_64 Error Summary ------------- Any way around it? Many thanks, Ranjan -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth

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question: F-19 and CUPS upgrade.
by William Mattison 30 Jun '13

30 Jun '13

I see in the Fedora-19 release notes that CUPS will be upgraded to 1.6. The page on that: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CUPS1.6 says this involves using pdf rather than postscript as the baseline document format. While wrestling to get printing working on my system this past spring, the printer's manufacturer (Xerox) told me that my printer was "GDI" based. I don't really know how printers and their drivers work, but I'm guessing that the Linux drivers for this printer are converting psotscript out by LibreOffice, the Linux print command, the browser, etc. to GDI, and sending that GDI to the printer. My question: Will the coming CUPS upgrade break printing on my system? or has this been properly accounted for in CUPS 1.6? thanks, Bill.

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What replaces palimpsest?
by Beartooth 30 Jun '13

30 Jun '13

A post on a LUG list praises it under that name, which .deb distros apparently still use; Wikipedia made it clear that .rpm distros no longer do, alas!, but got me totally confused about what I should tell yum to install so that I can try it. (I had hoped "yum install palimpsest" might link to current jargon, but it didn't.) -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

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F19: DUID for DHCPv6: how determine?
by Nick Urbanik 30 Jun '13

30 Jun '13

Dear Team, I'm investigating IPv6, and wondering how, on Fedora 19, the best way to determine the appropriate DUID (DHCP unique identifier) to be used in the host sections, along with fixed-address statements. If this is documented, please mention where. -- Nick Urbanik http://nicku.org nicku(a)nicku.org GPG: 7FFA CDC7 5A77 0558 DC7A 790A 16DF EC5B BB9D 2C24 ID: BB9D2C24

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Re: retrofitting LUKS encryption on installed system
by J.Witvliet＠mindef.nl 30 Jun '13

30 Jun '13

Top-post cause of BB :-( Private keys (if stored locally), for outgoing traffic, should reside in the users home-dir. Passwords should be replaced multi-factor strong auth's: card/token plus PIN. Any alterations of filesystem beyond /home can be detected+reported. Full disc encryption on a athom demands some extra patience :-) ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Bill Davidsen [mailto:davidsen@tmr.com] Verzonden: Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:07 PM W. Europe Standard Time Aan: Community support for Fedora users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Onderwerp: Re: retrofitting LUKS encryption on installed system J.Witvliet(a)mindef.nl wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: users-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Fred Smith > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:42 PM > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: retrofitting LUKS encryption on installed system > > I've got a F19 installation that I'd like to turn into a fully encrypted > system with LUKS. > > There are many howtos on the web for encrypting a partition, but they > all show doing it to /home. > -----Original Message----- > > No, just re-install. > One partition with /boot and another with an encrypted volume-group, holding /, swap and the rest. > > But before embarking on that trip, do you really need full disk encryption? > I mean, the content of /usr is on any fedora-cd ;-) And when up-and-running, everything is unlocked. > > The only valid reason I can think about, is that other people have physically access to your machine and could get root-access by booting from cd/dvd, and might alter your system. > If they have secret access they can install evil devices, but if you are protecting against theft (laptops) or someone with a search warrant (NSA) comes and takes your drives. > It surely works, but at a performance price. And the certainty that you have to enter the LUKS-key each time you boot. > The only safe place to store password info is in your head. If one other person has it it's not a secret, so you have to decide if losing the data is worse than having someone else get it. That's a policy decision, on-technical. > ______________________________________________________________________ > Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het electronisch verzenden van berichten. > > This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages. > -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org

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Re: firefox
by Reindl Harald 30 Jun '13

30 Jun '13

*please* reply also to the list! i do *not* see a reason why *one* random domain like http://cdn.doubleverify.com/ would be important enough to downgrade amajor browser to a version with a *lot* of known security bugs why do you not report the problem to whoever is using this CDN? Am 30.06.2013 20:24, schrieb Patrick Dupre: > Here is what I get with firefox 22: > > A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete. > > Script: http://cdn.doubleverify.com/avs441.js:39 > > >>>> >>>> Am 29.06.2013 18:28, schrieb Patrick Dupre: >>>>> I am still experiencing toubles with firefox 22 when I browse some web sites >>>> >>>> *what* problems >>>> *what* websites >>>> >>>>> I was trying to downgrade to firefox 20, but I cannot find firefox-20.0-5.fc18.x86_64.rpm >>>>> on http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ >>>>> (firefox-20.0-5.fc18.x86_64.rpm was not found on this server). >>>>> >>>>> Where can I get it? >>>> >>>> no idea why you insist in FF 20 and not 21 but why do you >>>> not simply take a non-removed package, they newwer >>>> builds most likely removed for a reason >>> >>> It is the same issue with firefox 21! >>> 20 is OK >> >> *what* issue >> *what* website >> >> hence i am web-developer and i have no idea what a stupid >> idiot needs to do to break his website for recent browsers

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Upgrade online - Fedora 17 -> Fedora 18 -> Fedora 19 - prosperous
by poma 30 Jun '13

30 Jun '13

fedora-upgrade Another method of upgrading Fedora, looks pretty familiar. :) Based on 'yum upgrade'. https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraUpgrade Successfully tested. poma

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Upgrading to 19 by fedup: bad and good news
by antonio montagnani 29 Jun '13

29 Jun '13

Today I issues a fedup-cli network 19 command ( At the end of procedure that ended right when rebooting I get Bad news: I get a black window if I login as any user with a fedora logo on the bottom of screen but I can use tty and then issue a startx Good news after issuing startx my old video card (Geforce FX5200) works fine with Gnome 3. Why do I have only F18 kernel?? Tnx -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F18(Spherical Cow) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com

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