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yum repo help needed
by Mike Wright 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

Hi all, I have an very old and cranky laptop that won't install past f14, used mostly as a scanner/print station. I'm trying to update some of its software using yum. I created a repo, fedora-archive.repo: [archive] name=Fedora 14 - i386 failovermethod=priority baseurl=http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases… enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 Given this command: yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=fedora-archive.repo update -y fails with: Error getting repository data for fedora-archive.repo, repository not found. The baseurl is accessible and does point to a repo. Any helpers? tia, mike wright

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Getting Samba to play with OpenLDAP/Kerberos
by Braden McDaniel 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

I have an existing OpenLDAP/Kerberos setup that I'm trying to get Samba to play with. I have no trouble signing on via Kerberos. However, when testing with smbclient: $ smbclient -k -L //rail/ session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE In smb.conf I have: [global] security = ADS realm = ENDOFRAME.NET kerberos method = secrets and system keytab encrypt passwords = yes I added the keytab as follows: kadmin: ktadd -e rc4-hmac:normal cifs/rail.endoframe.net Any suggestions? -- Braden McDaniel <braden(a)endoframe.com>

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Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days
by Reindl Harald 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

Am 22.09.2013 18:00, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: >>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: >>>> Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: >>>>> On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>>>>> Ed Greshko wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been having a problem on my Thinkpad T61 for the last 2 days. >>>>>>>> In fact since "yum update" installed kernel-PAE-3.11.1-200.fc19.i686, >>>>>>>> though that is probably a coincidence. >>>>>>> Would it be possible to boot into the previous kernel to verify if it is a >>>>>>> coincidence? >>>>>> I'm afraid I'm not sure how to do that. >>>>>> I'd be happy to try if someone could suggest the way. >>>>> >>>>> When you boot your system, don't you have a menu to select up to 3 kernels? >>>> >>>> and that is why i cried on @devel about the idea to hide the GRUB menu as default >>> >>> Err you know that we do *not* hide the grub menu in F19? >> >> no - because i do not care about Fedora defaults in many cases for my machines > > You seem to care enough to write mails about it. yes, becuase i am not that asshole some think and care about others i wish the future users have the same chance to learn things as i had in the past >>> If anything you have just proven that just because the menu is shown >>> people will not automatically know what the options there mean. >> >> no - it is proven that even if it is there it's hard to understand >> hide it does not make this better > > Showing an option that people do not understand does not solve anything. then *explain* the menu instead hide it >>> So can you stop "crying about the idea to hide the GRUB menu as(by) >>> default" now? >> >> no, simply because if it is hard to move the cursor down in a >> already displayed menu for some users you can be sure that they >> never have a chance to learn about the existing older kernel >> by hide it > > You should not have to learn what a kernel is to be able to use your computer this makes no sense why do you have to learn it? because there is a menu giving you options? does this menu *force* someobody to learn? how would it be able to demand anything from a user? > I am pretty sure you disagree here but we should just agree to > disagree instead of having a useless "discussion". if Fedora Core would have had the same attitude than today i would never have switched to Linux completly - this boot option where people say nobody needs to see it saved my first machine and a lot of time for me because it did not boot after a kernel update and so i took the only working thing: a menu at begin i agree in a perfect world you would not need it but this perfect world doe snot exist but you are not in the position than *anybody* else to guarantee that a kernel update will never have regresions, not now and not in the future >> if the affected machine is their only one they also have >> no chance to ask for help and are lost >> >> P.S.: >> do not give thunderbird a negative karma because some extension >> is not updated / rebuilt, file a bugreport for the extension! > > OT but no. If an update introduces broken deps it should not be pushed > until they are resolved. > Giving negative karma here is common practice not common, bad practice at least in that case

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Re: Ananconda on 19
by Reindl Harald 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

Am 21.09.2013 17:10, schrieb Phil Dobbin: > On 09/21/2013 03:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 21.09.2013 16:35, schrieb poma: >>> On 21.09.2013 15:57, Phil Dobbin wrote: >>>> Hi, all. >>>> >>>> I've just tried to install Fedora 19 over the top of CentOS I.(e. >>>> erasing Centos) & I can't figure out how to do it. There's no option for >>>> erase & install as with other distros. >>>> >>>> Could anybody point me in the right direction? >>>> >>>> Cheers, Phil... >>> >>> Can you point us in the right direction? :) >>> It's not so clear what and with what you want to do install >> >> what is not clear in "Anaconda"? >> it's the Fedora installer >> >> well, with F18 the whole thing was rewritten and hase a >> complete different UI - look on the whole screen for >> possible switches to display extended options >> >> there is for sure somewhere manual partitioning >> >> luckily never faced Anaconda past F14 - god save yum upgrades >> > > Most of the manual options are greyed out & are pretty useless AFAIK you need to answer a few questions in the installer to get different options enabled - no idea what all the developers talking about modern human interfaces are smoking > I suppose I could re-install 17 & upgrade via yum to 18 then 19 > from there but it's a hell of way to do things IMO would be a solution > I suppose the netinstall is the way to go... you can also make a minimal install with the DVD and so following dist-upgrades with yum are tiny and fast - i had to do this somewhere around F17 because the F17 installer insisted in GPT crap and di not allow me to manually specify teh 3 RAID paritions i wanted - after it was solved i found somewhere the kernel-param to disable the GPT nonsense nobody needs on 1 TB drives if you completly want to delete the existing CentOS boot the LiveCD and opena tmerinal "su -" -> "yum install gparted" -> make the partitioning at your own - i am working this way for more than 10 years because i never trusted *nay* os-installer enough to play around with my partitions except on blank machines

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Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days
by Reindl Harald 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>> My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora >>> installations, each having different games/files. As he has also CentOS menu >>> item there having multiple Fedora items is just too much for him. >> >> explain it to him > > I have tried many times for many years but he still insists on it. > > >> * because i saw the menu from the very first beginning >> * because doing nothing the next boot-step after that menu failed >> * so what did i: look waht happens if i chosse something other from the menu > > There is never a perfect solution, everything has its pros and cons. yes and the chance having a unbootable system has more cons > So it could wait for 5 secs, just displaying a message "Hit SHIFT to display > a boot menu.". That hopefully should not confuse users while it would still > help you to solve your problem place a descriptive text *above* the menu and display it as default would be the best one, but i guess pragmatic solutions edcuating users are not the ones developers these days perfer wondering from which tress in 10 years the advanced users will fall if all advanced options are more and more hidden beause the could confuse somebody............

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Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days
by Reindl Harald 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:21:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> now we have exactly what i said will happen: users in trouble does not know how to >> boot the still installed older kernel because they never learned that there are >> more than one because they never faced it as all the years before > > My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora > installations, each having different games/files. As he has also CentOS menu > item there having multiple Fedora items is just too much for him. explain it to him > A proper fix would need to be more thorough as in the case of multiple > different OSes installed you should always get the menu choice: > > * Always present only the latest kernel there, > hide all older kernels under the menu item "Advanced options for Fedora". > > * Do not display the menu if there is only one option available. > (Sure not counting the "Advanced options for Fedora" menu item.) > Sure still the menu gets displayed on holding the SHIFT/ARROW key. > > Failed boot of a new kernel is a rare case needing assistance of someone more > capable of admin work. Such person knows how to display the menu says who? * as i faced the first unbootable system after a kernel update it was Fedora Core 3 * i had no big Fedora expierience at this time * i did not need assistance of someone more capable of admin work why? * because i saw the menu from the very first beginning * because doing nothing the next boot-step after that menu failed * so what did i: look waht happens if i chosse something other from the menu

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Re: hidden GRUB menu -> Re: Suspension problem last 2 days
by Reindl Harald 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

Am 22.09.2013 17:36, schrieb drago01: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: >> Am 22.09.2013 02:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: >>> On 09/22/13 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>>> Ed Greshko wrote: >>>> >>>>>> I've been having a problem on my Thinkpad T61 for the last 2 days. >>>>>> In fact since "yum update" installed kernel-PAE-3.11.1-200.fc19.i686, >>>>>> though that is probably a coincidence. >>>>> Would it be possible to boot into the previous kernel to verify if it is a >>>>> coincidence? >>>> I'm afraid I'm not sure how to do that. >>>> I'd be happy to try if someone could suggest the way. >>> >>> When you boot your system, don't you have a menu to select up to 3 kernels? >> >> and that is why i cried on @devel about the idea to hide the GRUB menu as default > > Err you know that we do *not* hide the grub menu in F19? no - because i do not care about Fedora defaults in many cases for my machines > If anything you have just proven that just because the menu is shown > people will not automatically know what the options there mean. no - it is proven that even if it is there it's hard to understand hide it does not make this better > So can you stop "crying about the idea to hide the GRUB menu as(by) > default" now? no, simply because if it is hard to move the cursor down in a already displayed menu for some users you can be sure that they never have a chance to learn about the existing older kernel by hide it if the affected machine is their only one they also have no chance to ask for help and are lost P.S.: do not give thunderbird a negative karma because some extension is not updated / rebuilt, file a bugreport for the extension!

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not been configured -
by Bob Goodwin 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

After an update I noticed the following and wonder if it has any bearing on this computer's inability to print crosswords from Firefox. The print GUI menu comes up but is grayed (printing works normally from other app's) ... Seamonkey and Midori do print them. .................... snip ... Cleanup : mesa-libGL-9.2-1.20130902.fc19 47/62 Cleanup : mesa-libGLES-9.2-1.20130902.fc19.x86_64 48/62 Cleanup : mesa-dri-drivers-9.2-1.20130902.fc19.x86_64 49/62 Cleanup : 1:java-1.7.0-openjdk-devel-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.1.fc19.x86_64 50/62 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.1.fc19.x86_64/bin/javac has not been configured as an alternative for javac /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.1.fc19.x86_64 has not been configured as an alternative for java_sdk_openjdk /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.1.fc19.x86_64 has not been configured as an alternative for java_sdk_1.7.0 Cleanup : mesa-filesystem-9.2-1.20130902.fc19.x86_64 51/62 Cleanup : mesa-libglapi-9.2-1.20130902.fc19 52/62 Cleanup : systemd-libs-204-11.fc19 53/62 Cleanup : 1:java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.1.fc19.x86_64 54/62 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.1.fc19.x86_64/jre/bin/java has not been configured as an alternative for java /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.1.fc19.x86_64/jre has not been configured as an alternative for jre_openjdk /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.1.fc19.x86_64/jre has not been configured as an alternative for jre_1.7.0 Cleanup : mesa-libglapi-9.2-1.20130902.fc19 ..................... snip ..... A minor problem but an annoyance. Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-19 Linux/XFCE

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Make mplayer default on GNOME 3
by Jorge Fábregas 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

Hello everyone, Where can I set the default application for video files in Fedora 19 (GNOME Shell)? I want to make mplayer (command line version) the default. So far I've tried: - right clicking the video file --> Open With ...but mplayer is not listed there - Settings --> Details --> Default Applications --> Video ...but I only see "Videos" listed (wonderful name for Totem). - Created .desktop file in $HOME/.local/share/applications but still can't make it work. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jorge

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Ananconda on 19
by Phil Dobbin 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

Hi, all. I've just tried to install Fedora 19 over the top of CentOS I.(e. erasing Centos) & I can't figure out how to do it. There's no option for erase & install as with other distros. Could anybody point me in the right direction? Cheers, Phil...

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