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[OT] EXT3/4 RW drivers for Windows
by Mark Haney 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

I've used ext2fsd for quite a while now to be able to read my ext3 1TB hard drives. I went to update and noticed it's not been updated in over 2 years. Are there any more recent windows apps out there? I've tried a couple that I've googled, but they either don't work at all, or aren't any more recent than ext2fsd. I'd really like to be able to read and write to them from Windows, but it's not a showstopper if I can't.

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Fedora 19, Gnome 3, and Session Management
by Gene Czarcinski 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

When I first updated to Fedora 19 I got a bit of a surprise. I have used a number of different desktops of the years but have settled on gnome. This included changing over to Gnome 3 and the gnome-shell when it became available. In previous years I had used session management and the capabilities to save running applications at logout (or as a special session save) to be restarted at login. I used this "session restore" to start all of the applications that I wanted running. Many of these applications were gnome-terminal windows coming up on different directories. So, with Fedora 19, I was surprised when no gnome-terminals restarted. I little investigation revealed that none were restarted because the session information was not saved even if the gnome-session-properties.option was enabled. This saving and restart did work on Fedora 18 where gnome-terminal-3.6.1 was installed but not Fedora 19 with gnome-terminal-3.8.4. Doing some research into the commits in the gnome-terminal git, I found that the eggSMClient support was removed in December 2011 and GtkApplication was installed in March 2012. This second part is important because, with gtk 3.4, gtk supports logout notification and negotiation similar to EggSMClient -- https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.7/gtk-migrating-smclient-GtkApplication.… However, it appears that Gnome 3 applications which include at least gnome-terminal and gedit are NOT supporting saving the session at logout. But, I cannot find any statement that this specific decision has been made. There is an old gnome bugzilla "discussion" https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79285 and a new low priority rfe https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704676 but I have come the the conclusion that perhaps the correct solution is to NOT save the session. My "new" thinking is to use gnome-session to define some new autostart applications for the applications I want running at login time. For applications such as thunderbird and firefox, I can use gnome-shell-extension-auto-move-windows to place those applications on specific workspaces/desktops. For the mutiple gnome-terminal windows I want started, I can use a combination of the --geometry=COLxROW+X+Y and execution of "wmctrl -s <n>" to place a gnome-terminal window on a specific desktop. There might be a better way to specify the desktop for an application but I do not know what that might be. Gene

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LAN driver problem
by Giovanni Ortosecco 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Dear List, first of all I wish to greet all members. My name is Giovanni and I'm a chemist in Naples, Italy. The problem I found is as follows: at work I use Fedora 10 and a few days ago I changed the motherboard because the old one is broken. With the new motherboard LAN connection to the network has stopped working. The new motherboard is as follows: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3505 # sp and as a controller LAN has, as you can see, the Atheros AR8151 chip (10/100/1000 Mbit). I saw on the net that there were many problems with this AR8151 chip. I also tried to download the latest drivers and install them, but nothing to do. I only found drivers for Atheros different versions of the chip, but not for AR8151 Unfortunately I am forced to not being able to upgrade the operating system to the new Fedora 19. I also tried to live to start both Fedora 19 and Ubuntu 13.04 and the LAN is working properly. So I think it is intended solely as a driver problem. Thank you in advance for the help you want to give me. Greetings to all, Friendliness.

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RE: free CA?
by J.Witvliet＠mindef.nl 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Discourage top-postings ;-) -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Mike Wright Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: free CA? <snip> Once again it looks like I outsmarted myself. Traced the problem down to my MTA's smtpd.cdb (db of allowed/denied IPs). Somehow cacert's IP range was being denied. I now have a client certificate but have no idea what to name it or where to install it :) -----Original Message----- Hi Mike, Good to see your initial problem solved... Regarding your client-certificate, no need to (re-)name it; just include it into your web-browser. As it is issued by CAcert, you can only use _this_ certificate to login into websites using machine certificated from CAcert. At least you can try cacert.org, as they have password login, but also certificate login. By the way, they have some nice wiki-pages up there..... Hans ______________________________________________________________________ Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het electronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages.

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?? on HPLIP drivers
by Mickey 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Fedora 18 I understand that if you install the hplip drivers and your printer is supported, that when you plug in your usb cable into computer to printer that it Automatically will be recognised and setup up on computer,, Is that a correct assumption ??

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Openvpn hanging?
by Timothy Murphy 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

I'm having a curious problem communicating with a remote site of mine. I can access the site with "ssh -Y alfred-vpn" without any problem. But then any command, eg cat, vim, tail, that gives more than a minimal response, causes the connection to hang, that is, to cease accepting any input, and I see no way to revive the connection except to kill the sshd entry from another ssh connection to the site, or else just to close the local window. For example, "sudo tail -9 /var/log/messages" works, but not if I replace 9 with 20. It seems to me that there has been some corruption at the remote site - there may well have been a power-outage or something like that. I've tried re-installing several packages, eg coreutils, sendmail . I've also tried re-starting all the services that might be involved, eg openvpn, network, shorewall. Any advice or suggestions gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Screen 'hangs' after 19.1 update
by Jeff Simmons 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Install Fedora 19.1 (XFCE spin 64b) on a Samsung netbook, Atom N550. Everything looks good. Run 'yum update', take a break while it runs through 786 operations. Reboot. LIttle F appears in the center of the screen and fills in. Screen goes to text mode and announces: brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: qos enabled: false (implement) brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_config: change-powersave-mode: false (implement) (timestamps delided) and hangs. The only input that does anything is CTL-ALT-DEL, which reboots system and repeats above. Happens for updated kernel boot, old kernel boot, and rescue boot. So, reboot and wait ten minutes. Suddenly, the screen saver unlocker appears. I enter my password, and up pops Fedora as if nothing had happened. Quick check of dmesg shows the above announcement near the very end (last 12 lines of dmesg): [ 29.827065] Ebtables v2.0 registered [ 30.059665] nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max) [ 33.669448] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: qos enabled: false (implement) [ 33.669640] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_config: change power-save mode: false (implement) [ 33.670461] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp5s0: link is not ready [ 33.744830] sky2 0000:09:00.0 p3p1: enabling interface [ 33.745964] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): p3p1: link is not ready [ 33.769149] rtl8192cu: MAC auto ON okay! [ 33.812090] rtl8192cu: Tx queue select: 0x05 [ 34.191539] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp0s29f7u7: link is not ready [ 35.306178] sky2 0000:09:00.0 p3p1: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control rx [ 35.306178] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): p3p1: link becomes ready Anybody got a clue what's going on? -- Jeff Simmons jsimmons(a)goblin.punk.net Simmons Consulting - Network Engineering, Administration, Security "You guys, I don't hear any noise. Are you sure you're doing it right?" -- My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult

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blackened screen 2
by Richard Vickery 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Hi gang: I'm on F20. The only way I get a screen that anyone can see is not by using the portable computer's screen, but plugging it into another screen. I tried going into the "Power" control but it's already on maximum brightness. Any Ideas on how else I might try to fix it? Thanks, Richard

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what mean 'journal-or-kmsg' systemd 'log-target'?
by Franta Hanzlík 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Know anyone what exactly mean 'journal-or-kmsg' value for '--log-target' systemd option or 'LogTarget=' /etc/systemd/system.conf option? man page for F19 systemd v204-9 mention it, but without any explanation. (as well for 'syslog-or-kmsg' value) TIA, Franta Hanzlik

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RE: free CA?
by J.Witvliet＠mindef.nl 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

See below :-) -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Mike Wright Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:47 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: free CA? 09/09/2013 02:23 AM, J.Witvliet(a)mindef.nl wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: users-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Mike Wright > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:02 PM > To: Fedora Users > Subject: free CA? > > Hi all, > > Does anybody know of a free CA (Certificate Authority) that is > recognized by common browsers? I have some very low volume > non-commercial sites and cannot justify spending $100/year on > certificates for them. > > I tried CAcert by no matter what I did they said they could not contact > my mail server in order to verify me. (Same server where my Fedora > Users mail arrives w/o problems.) tcpdump shows they came and carried > on some sort of conversation. Given all that I gave up on them. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated, > Mike Wright > -----Original Message----- > > Hi Mike, > > Perhaps worthwhile spending some more time on your email issue.... > You did get certified? And subscribed to their M.L.? (there were some technical issues lately) > > At least your primary email-address should remain reachable by cacert. > You can test that, by issuing a client certificate: you should get notified for that. > > In case there is something odd with the email-address itself: You can expect the same by other CA-providers, as anyone needs to be able to verify your address. > > Hans (in private live also assurer for CAcert) Hallo Hans, Thanks for your help. I've successfully sent mail from Yahoo to the email address I'm using. I've also had friends from across the US successfully send email to that address; nonetheless, the signup session with CAcert always fails with: "Email Address given was invalid, or a test connection couldn't be made to your server, or the server rejected the email address as invalid Failed to make a connection to the mail server". Would it be OK if I contacted you off list at your mindef.nl email address? Perhaps you could try sending me an email from where you are. That may help me figure out what is breaking where. I've combed through my DNS and mailserver settings and found no errors (obvious to me). This dns/mail setup has been working for about 14 years (djbdns/qmail). -----Original Message----- Ah! Sounds familiar :-( Although not from cacert.org, I've seen similar complaints... At the risk of getting off-topic, this is what I got recently: Since a couple of days I get the same messages from gmail.com and others. It seems that they (finally) started implementing ipv6. When they see the originating IP-address, they try to do a reversed lookup & forward lookup. That fails (because of anonimity mode in V6 I get a randomized address) so several companies (like gmail) consider me a spammer and bounces email, just like yours. Do you run your own (outgoing) MTA? If so, you need a dedicated mail-account that uses your ISP mail-server ;-) You can send me directly: either at home (hwit(a)a-domani.nl) or at work. 99.9999% certain that it arrives (as long as it's not filtered out by our picky corporate filters, but these filter only upon suspicious content, they are not testing (apparent) sending addresses... Hans ______________________________________________________________________ Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het electronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages.

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