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Re: (fedora) Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
by Jouk Jansen 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Ralf wrote on 16-DEC-2014 19:16:02.04 >On 12/16/2014 06:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned >> it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. >> All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The >> machine then only booted windows. > >On my GPT/UEFI Win + F21 system, the last round of Win patches had >modified the boot order of the UEFI boot devices. > >The solution had been to enter the BIOS and move Fedora up in the >UEFI-Boot order setup. This is a laptop with one device and F20 and Windows on 2 partitions. So I have no idea how to change the boot-order. Regards Jouk Pax, vel iniusta, utilior est quam iustissimum bellum. (free after Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 b.Chr.-46 b.Chr.) Epistularum ad Atticum 7.1.4.3) Touch not the cat bot a glove >------------------------------------------------------------------------------< Jouk Jansen joukj(a)hrem.nano.tudelft.nl Technische Universiteit Delft tttttttttt uu uu ddddddd Kavli Institute of Nanoscience tttttttttt uu uu dd dd Nationaal centrum voor HREM tt uu uu dd dd Lorentzweg 1 tt uu uu dd dd 2628 CJ Delft tt uu uu dd dd Nederland tt uu uu dd dd tel. 31-15-2782272 tt uuuuuuu ddddddd >------------------------------------------------------------------------------<

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OT: disabling <ctrl><shift>f produces a "find" menu.
by Rolf Turner 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Struggling with this and don't know who else to ask .... I have just found out how to produce accented characters when typing, e.g., an email, via <ctrl><shift>u<code> where "<code>" is the unicode hex number for producing the desired symbol. E.g. <ctrl><shift>ue9 produces e-acute. Fine. Except ... any hex numbers that involve "f" result in a "find" menu popping up --- instead of the character I want being produced. I figure there *must* be a way to switch off or disable this annoying useless pop-up menu so that it does not interfere with getting accented characters. But I'm damned if I can find a way. Can anyone point me in the right direction? The annoying phenomenon seems to be associated with the Gnome terminal; I have just realized that it *doesn't* arise when I am actually composing an email (in a Thunderbird email window). In the Gnome terminal there is a "Search" item on the menu bar and that indicates that <ctrl><shift>f is a "short-cut" for "Find". Thanks for any insights. cheers, Rolf Turner -- Rolf Turner Technical Editor ANZJS

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getting rid of yum
by Ranjan Maitra 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not having it available would force me to think and thus get used to dnf. So I try: dnf erase yum abrt x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 1.9 M abrt-addon-ccpp x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 275 k abrt-addon-kerneloops x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 74 k abrt-addon-pstoreoops x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 14 k abrt-addon-python x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 19 k abrt-addon-python3 x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 14 k abrt-addon-vmcore x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 40 k abrt-addon-xorg x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 17 k abrt-cli x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 0 abrt-libs x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 51 k abrt-plugin-bodhi x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 20 k abrt-python x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 57 k abrt-python3 x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 53 k abrt-retrace-client x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 105 k abrt-tui x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 24 k anaconda-core x86_64 21.48.21-1.fc21 @System 7.7 M anaconda-gui x86_64 21.48.21-1.fc21 @System 1.2 M anaconda-tui x86_64 21.48.21-1.fc21 @System 373 k anaconda-yum-plugins noarch 1:1.0-10.fc20 @System 21 k createrepo noarch 0.10.3-3.fc21 @System 301 k fedup noarch 0.9.0-2.fc21 @System 253 k libreport x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 1.8 M libreport-anaconda x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 15 k libreport-cli x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 29 k libreport-fedora x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 40 k libreport-gtk x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 219 k libreport-plugin-bugzilla x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 147 k libreport-plugin-kerneloops x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 37 k libreport-plugin-logger x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 35 k libreport-plugin-reportuploader x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 71 k libreport-plugin-ureport x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 55 k libreport-python x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 94 k libreport-python3 x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 41 k libreport-web x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 44 k livecd-tools x86_64 1:21.4-1.fc21 @System 144 k lorax x86_64 21.30-1.fc21 @System 440 k python-imgcreate x86_64 1:21.4-1.fc21 @System 282 k python-meh noarch 0.32-3.fc21 @System 251 k python-meh-gui noarch 0.32-3.fc21 @System 24 k yum noarch 3.4.3-153.fc21 @System 5.6 M yum-langpacks noarch 0.4.4-1.fc21 @System 66 k yum-plugin-fastestmirror noarch 1.1.31-27.fc21 @System 53 k yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves noarch 1.1.31-27.fc21 @System 26 k yum-utils noarch 1.1.31-27.fc21 @System 324 k Question: why do stuff like createrepo, fedup, livecd-tools, etc still depend on yum? Should they be made to depend on dnf now, in which case, should there be a bug report on this? Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. Please respond to the mailing list if appropriate. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium

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Can't play a Video
by Mickey 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

F20/KDE This is a new install of Fedora 20. When I open a Video file with Dragon player or VLC they will play Audio but no Video, black screen. Is there a possibility that I don't have a certain RPM installed ?

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Oracle VirtualBox for F21
by Paul Smith 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Dear All, Does somebody know when will Oracle make VirtualBox available on its repository for Fedora 21? At the moment, no package for F21 is available: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/ Thanks in advance, Paul

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Re: (fedora) Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
by Jouk Jansen 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Chris Murphy wrote on 16-DEC-2014 19:53:19.22 16-DEC-2014 19:53:19.22 >On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Jouk Jansen ><joukj at hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned >> it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. >> All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The >> machine then only booted windows. I made Fedora boot again by >> grub2-install/grub2-mkconfig. However now when you select windows in the >> grub menu it will not start because it lost its boot-block. >> I'm not eager to try windows writing its bootsector again, because I'm >> afraid I will loose grub2 again. >> Does anyone know this problem? and how to solve it. > >Can you boot Fedora and run > >$ efibootmgr > >and post the results? I can't tell if this computer has BIOS or UEFI >firmware. I thought all Windows 8 pre-installed hardware are UEFI. BootCurrent: 0005 Timeout: 0 seconds Bootorder: 0005,0003,0000,0001,0002 Boot0000* Fedora Boot0001* UEFI: IP4 Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller Boot0002* UEFI: IP6 Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller Boot0003* Windows Boot Manager Boot0005* grub So I think it is an UEFI. > >Also, what do you mean by "will not start because it lost its boot >block" - what's the actual error message? If you can take a cell phone >photo and post that somewhere it might be useful to determine if this >is a Windows bootloader error or GRUB error. Error message: error: file `EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi' not found error: you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... > >On BIOS computers, grub-install only replaces the first 440 bytes of >bootloader code on the 1st sector, none of the other Windows >bootloader stages are touched. > >OnUEFI computers, the bootloaders co-exist on the EFI System partition >in different directories. There's no longer such a thing as boot >blocks or boot sectors. And grub2-install should be avoided. Any idea how to proceed? Regards Jouk Pax, vel iniusta, utilior est quam iustissimum bellum. (free after Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 b.Chr.-46 b.Chr.) Epistularum ad Atticum 7.1.4.3) Touch not the cat bot a glove >------------------------------------------------------------------------------< Jouk Jansen joukj(a)hrem.nano.tudelft.nl Technische Universiteit Delft tttttttttt uu uu ddddddd Kavli Institute of Nanoscience tttttttttt uu uu dd dd Nationaal centrum voor HREM tt uu uu dd dd Lorentzweg 1 tt uu uu dd dd 2628 CJ Delft tt uu uu dd dd Nederland tt uu uu dd dd tel. 31-15-2782272 tt uuuuuuu ddddddd >------------------------------------------------------------------------------<

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Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
by Jouk Jansen 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Hi all, I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The machine then only booted windows. I made Fedora boot again by grub2-install/grub2-mkconfig. However now when you select windows in the grub menu it will not start because it lost its boot-block. I'm not eager to try windows writing its bootsector again, because I'm afraid I will loose grub2 again. Does anyone know this problem? and how to solve it. Regards Jouk Pax, vel iniusta, utilior est quam iustissimum bellum. (free after Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 b.Chr.-46 b.Chr.) Epistularum ad Atticum 7.1.4.3) Touch not the cat bot a glove >------------------------------------------------------------------------------< Jouk Jansen joukj(a)hrem.nano.tudelft.nl Technische Universiteit Delft tttttttttt uu uu ddddddd Kavli Institute of Nanoscience tttttttttt uu uu dd dd Nationaal centrum voor HREM tt uu uu dd dd Lorentzweg 1 tt uu uu dd dd 2628 CJ Delft tt uu uu dd dd Nederland tt uu uu dd dd tel. 31-15-2782272 tt uuuuuuu ddddddd >------------------------------------------------------------------------------<

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gnuplot
by Patrick Dupre 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Hello, In fedora 20, I have gnuplot-4.6.3-6.fc20.x86_64 which gives me error: ';' expected while it used to work fine before. I though that I should try the version for fedora21: Unfortunately, I cannot get the file gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.src.rpm Is there a way to build the rpm from a tgz file for gnuplot ? I guess atht a .spec file would be helpfull! Thank for your help. =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France ===========================================================================

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fedora web site
by Patrick Dupre 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Hello, from firefox, when I go on fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora I am quickly pick off and move to https://getfedora.org/ and then I am stock and cannot access to useful information. How can I get to the fedoraproject.org website and stay there? Thank =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France ===========================================================================

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Converting from the workstation product to the XFCE spin?
by Sam Varshavchik 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Is it possible, with a minimum of fuss and pain? Because of bug 1174530, I can't use Gnome any more.

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