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stopping cinnamon-started apps at logout
by Wolfgang S. Rupprecht 14 May '14

14 May '14

I'd assumed that the apps started by cinnamon when I logged in would also be killed when I logged out. That doesn't seem to be the case for non-X11 programs that hang around forever and watch files. Those programs just get passed off to PID 1 when one logs out and continue on their merry way till the system reboots. If one logs in again, another instance of the program is started. The exact program I'm running is a IMAP watcher that watches my remote INBOX and grabs the new mail as soon as it arrives. It would be good if it stopped when I logged out. /usr/bin/getmail --idle=INBOX Any ideas? Do I have to keep track of the PID myself and find a logout hook to hang a kill -HUP onto? Does .bash_logout or .logout even get called? -wolfgang

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Consistent device naming
by CLOSE Dave 14 May '14

14 May '14

I manage a lab with more than a hundred machines, all doing the same things. Presently they are running Fedora 13 and are obviously sorely overdue for an upgrade. But doing an upgrade is likely to present several issues, one of which I'd like to discuss today. The machines come from several manufactures and were purchased over a span of years. Their hardware differs substantially but all have two Ethernet interfaces. With F13, these are /always/ called eth0 and eth1. When one is implemented by an add-in card and the other is on the motherboard, the motherboard interface is /always/ eth0. My experience with newer Fedora releases, on other machines, is that this naming reliability has gone away. The names assigned, by default, depend on the hardware configuration of the machine. Some may call the motherboard port em1, others may call it p1p4, and even more names are possible. The add-in port has similarly inconsistent names. Note, I don't mean the names are inconsistent on the same machine. I understand the purpose of the systemd/udev naming rules and how they work, but they get in my way. So I know that I can try to return to the old naming system using one or more techniques (<http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfac…>). And I've tried them all. But I find that, sometimes the motherboard port gets called eth0 and the add-in port is eth1, and sometimes those names get reversed. This is /not/ the old behavior even though it uses the old names. I want to run the same software on all of these machines and having inconsistent names /between/ the machines makes that next to impossible. Using the new names means that my software has to learn all those different names and can't easily determine which name applies to the motherboard port. Using the old names means it can't predict which name will be given to which port. There's got to be a better answer. -- Dave Close

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Re: firefox
by Patrick Dupre 14 May '14

14 May '14

Sorry for the noise. It is fine if I replace toptica.com by www.toptica.com. Bizare! > > Hello, > > From 1 machine when I try to reach pages of website, I get: > > Page Not Found > > Reason: Segment "126" was not a keyword for a postVarSet as expected on page with id=1. > > TYPO3 is an open source content management system. To maintain the quality of the system and to improve it, please help us by donating. TYPO3 CMS. Copyright © 1998-2013 Kasper Skårhøj. Extensions are copyright of their respective owners. Go to http://typo3.org/ for details. TYPO3 comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Obstructing the appearance of this notice is prohibited by law. > > Would you have any idea about what is generating this error? > > It is fine from another machine (all fedora 20). > > Thank. > > =========================================================================== > Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com > Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | > Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | > Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 > 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France > =========================================================================== > -- > users mailing list > users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France ===========================================================================

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firefox
by Patrick Dupre 14 May '14

14 May '14

Hello, >From 1 machine when I try to reach pages of website, I get: Page Not Found Reason: Segment "126" was not a keyword for a postVarSet as expected on page with id=1. TYPO3 is an open source content management system. To maintain the quality of the system and to improve it, please help us by donating. TYPO3 CMS. Copyright © 1998-2013 Kasper Skårhøj. Extensions are copyright of their respective owners. Go to http://typo3.org/ for details. TYPO3 comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Obstructing the appearance of this notice is prohibited by law. Would you have any idea about what is generating this error? It is fine from another machine (all fedora 20). Thank. =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France ===========================================================================

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Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-05-13)
by Matthew Miller 14 May '14

14 May '14

(Whoops -- I accidentally reposted last week's 5tFTW last night instead of the new one. Sorry!) Reposted from http://fedoramagazine.org/five-things-in-fedora-this-week-2014-05-13/ Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for May 13th, 2014: Pidora 2014: Fedora 20 for the Raspberry Pi ------------------------------------------- I was going to put this at the top of the list last week, and somehow missed it when it came to actually writing things up, so this is actually last week’s news. But it’s pretty cool, so here it is at the top of *this* week. The Raspberry Pi is a very cheap (starting somewhere around $25) credit-card-sized computer. Unfortunately, Fedora doesn’t work on it without some modifications. But, fortunately, those modifications have been made! The Centre for Development of Open Technology at Seneca College in Toronto produces a Fedora Remix called Pidora, specifically tailored for the Raspberry Pi. (A “remix” is different from a “spin” or other variants of Fedora because it is produced separately from the project itself and can contain software that in the official distribution.) This project has just released its fourth version, Pidora 2014. This is based on Fedora 20, so you get all of the benefits of the new Fedora release, plus some specific improvements, including better performance, firstboot configuration tailored for the Raspberry Pi, enhancements for “headless” mode where no monitor is available, and more. * http://www.raspberrypi.org/ * http://cdot.senecacollege.ca/ * http://pidora.ca/ * http://pidora.ca/pidora/releases/20/release-announcement.txt Big Data: Running Apache Hadoop in Docker on Fedora --------------------------------------------------- Apache Hadoop is an open source software framework for processing big data sets. Like, *really big* data — it powers Yahoo’s search engine, and Facebook has a Hadoop cluster that was 100 petabytes two years ago. Of course, you can use it for smaller projects, and Robert Radi has written a nice little series of posts on getting started with Hadoop using Fedora and Docker, covering: - Building Images, - Running Images, - Why It Works, and - Issues and Limitations. Definitely worth a read if you’re curious about modern data processing, and the last part presents some interesting problems waiting to be solved. * http://www.infoworld.com/d/big-data/facebook-pushes-the-limits-of-hadoop-20… * http://rrati.github.io/blog/2014/05/06/apache-hadoop-plus-docker-plus-fedor… * http://rrati.github.io/blog/2014/05/07/apache-hadoop-plus-docker-plus-fedor… * http://rrati.github.io/blog/2014/05/08/apache-hadoop-plus-docker-plus-fedor… * http://rrati.github.io/blog/2014/05/09/apache-hadoop-plus-docker-plus-fedor… Preview of Bodhi 2, the new Fedora updates feedback mechanism ------------------------------------------------------------- One of the most important jobs in Fedora is testing package updates before they’re released to the general public. This makes sure that fixes actually work, and that they don’t introduce new problems. (As always, the help wanted sign is out!) After testers check a package, they use a tool called Bodhi to provide feedback to package maintainers, who use this information to decide whether the update is good to go, either manually or through a preset threshold of positive reports. This system has served us pretty well, but has some pain points. Fedora hackers Luke Macken and Ralph Bean have been working on an update (creatively named Bodhi 2.0), and this week Ralph presents a video demonstrating one of the improvements, a more fine-grained feedback system, which allows testers to list what exactly was tested and which bugs are fixed, rather than just a big “up” or “down”. Ralph notes that there is a Fedora Activity Day (“FAD”) focusing on Bodhi 2 and Tasktron (our upcoming QA automation system) in June, and a lot of progress should be made on both — great news for both the people directly involved in QA and all the rest of us who benefit from their labor. * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bodhi/2.0 * http://threebean.org/blog/bodhi2-karma-system-preview/ * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Bodhi2_Taskotron_2014 * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA Running Vagrant on Fedora with Libvirt -------------------------------------- Vagrant is a tool for creating and managing virtual machine images containing software development environments. It’s particularly popular in the DevOps world. It’s also something we’ve been missing in the Fedora world, but the situation is getting better James, (from *The Technical Blog of James*), has an article about getting Vagrant running on Fedora. Thanks to James for the clear, straightforward How-To. It ends with a call for help — it’d be great to have the mentioned vagrant-libvirt plugin packaged in in the distro, making it even easier for end-users. See some discussion in the comments there. And also see this ticket requesting an official Fedora Vagrant Base Box — so many great ways to get involved here. * http://www.usenix.org/system/files/login/articles/105516-Debois.pdf * http://ttboj.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/vagrant-on-fedora-with-libvirt-repris… * https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/44 Fedora Magazine Authors Wanted ------------------------------ Speaking of ways to get involved: we’re looking for people interested in writing for *Fedora Magazine* (the blog where I’m posting these articles, if you happen to be reading this somewhere else). Doesn’t need to be a big production number, but it’d be great to have a few more regularly-occurring features. If you might be interested, don’t be shy — join us in Fedora Marketing and we’ll get you what you need to get started. * http://fedoramagazine.org/ * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> "Dockah! Dockah! Dockah!"

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Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-05-06)
by Matthew Miller 13 May '14

13 May '14

Reposted from http://fedoramagazine.org/five-things-in-fedora-this-week-2014-05-06/ Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for May 6th, 2014: Add Your Art to Fedora ---------------------- Every Fedora release ships with a collection of non-default desktop wallpaper, provided by (and selected by!) the Fedora community. On his blog, Fedora Design Team member Sirko Kemter announces that the artwork submission period for Fedora 21 is now open. Entries must be licensed under a liberal open content license and meet some basic technical and content requirements. The deadline is August 16th, but it never hurts to start creating early. Both submissions and voting are handled by Nuancier, a web application dedicated to the task. You can see last year’s results, too! * http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=4579 * https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/ * https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/results/1/ LinuxFest Northwest ------------------- The 15th annual LinuxFest Northwest was held last week in (as it always is) Bellingham, Washington. Fedora was well-represented, of course. Jeff Sandys provides a brief blog report on the event, with a title implying more to come. Also worth watching is Brian Lunduke’s annual “Linux Sucks” report. Make sure to stick around for the second half — Fedora comes out rather well overall, despite the talk’s tongue-in-cheek title. * http://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/ * http://alg0rhythm.livejournal.com/8885.html * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pOxlazS3zs Fedora Regional Budgets ----------------------- Fedora Ambassadors are the outreach arm of the project — volunteers who spread the word of our collective greatness. Often, this is through organizing and attending events, and of course that takes money for travel, lodging, swag, and so on. Curious how this breaks down? Jiří Eischmann (a member of FAmSCo, the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee) has a blog post reviewing the (just completed) Fiscal Year 2014 Regional Budgets. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_Steering_Committee * https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/fedora-regional-budgets-in-fy201… Fedora.next QA Test Plans ------------------------- Fedora’s Quality Assurance team has been working with the various new Fedora Working Groups (see the Fedora.next article series if you haven’t been following along) to create plans for testing the different products envisioned in the brave new world of Fedora 21 and beyond. At yesterday’s QA meeting, Adam Williamson, Ankur Sinha, and Mike Ruckman discussed draft plan documents for Server, Workstation, and Cloud, and Adam is planning to put the three together and come up with an idea of what overall test coverage looks like. Sound interesting to you? Take a look at the Join QA wiki page, or if you’re especially interested in a particular area, the corresponding Special Interest Group. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA * http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-upda… * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-May/121261.html * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_Server_test_outline * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha/Workstation_test_outline * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Cloud_Docs * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join Fedora Dockerfiles Collection ----------------------------- You’ve probably heard of Docker by now — containers have gained huge traction as an attractive alternative to full virtualization, and Docker may be the buzziest container-related technology of all. It provides a simple command-line tool for fetching special images and launching them as application containers, where each gets a special view of the system where it appears to be the only thing running — the process is isolated from the rest of the system. Docker containers bring along their entire runtime, so each image is its own little Fedora (or, of course, other Linux system — CentOS or Ubuntu or whatever, if you want). And these images are created on top of a *base image* using a recipe called a Dockerfile. (It’s something like an RPM spec file or a kickstart script, if you’re familiar with those.) Fedora contributor Scott Collier maintains a collection of examples named, simply enough, `fedora-dockerfiles`, and this week he notes that there’s a new version. This contains examples including the Apache httpd webserver, PostgreSQL database, and many more… even a ready-to-go WordPress installation. Scott also has quick instructions on building and running images from these Dockerfiles in an earlier blog post. It’s pretty simple, really — which is the appeal. Oh, and be aware that we are mostly talking about *server*applications here, not desktop apps (although containers are a big topic there too, and it’ll be interesting to see how the ideas come together). * http://docker.io/ * http://docs.docker.io/installation/fedora/ * http://www.colliernotes.com/2014/05/new-fedora-dockerfiles-package-is-out.h… * http://www.colliernotes.com/2014/03/new-package-fedora-dockerfiles-is-now.h… -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> "Dockah! Dockah! Dockah!"

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Rather interesting problem with upgrade
by Roger 13 May '14

13 May '14

Yesterday I upgraded my Fedora 19 to Fedora 20 and find that Grub shows Fedora 20 option, Centos 6.5 option but does not find my ubuntu 14.04LTS installation, instead showing 2 Fedora 19 options. As far as I can tell nothing of Fedora 19 remains. I am unfamiliar with how one should get grub to fine the Ububntu 14.04 boot option? Thanks in advance for any help Roger

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Fedup 19 to 20 fails after stuck keyboard
by linuxnutster＠videotron.ca 13 May '14

13 May '14

I sent this one to the fedora forum; perhaps somebody here knows the solution: Here's a new one. Right in the middle of using fedup to upgrade F19 to F20, an acquaintance came in, removed his notebook, and promptly dumped his notebook case on the upgrading machine's keyboard. By the time I looked back at the machine, the screen was a virtual hailstorm of looping back garbage. I rebooted the machine, and it promptly entered the last fedora 19 kernel; however, when I relaunch fedup, I get a notice that the system is already updated, which it obviously is not. How do I "force" fedup to relaunch the process? Thanks!

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Fedora 20 update problem
by Roger 13 May '14

13 May '14

A few days ago I updated the Dell 1520 from f19 to fed 20 with no problems. Just now I started updating my desktop from 19 to 20 and have run into problems. I am following https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum Ran yum install rpmconf; rpmconf -a find /etc /var -name '*?.rpm?*' yum install yum-utils; package-cleanup --leaves yum remove package-name-and-version and removed all of the packages listed. Then ran: sudo yum install fedora-upgrade Problem came with sudo fedora-upgrade. It found all the packages to be upgrades then displayed Install 14 Packages (+94 Dependent packages) Upgrade 1997 Packages Remove 3 Packages (+ 2 Dependent packages) Downgrade 4 Packages Total download size: 1.5 G Is this ok [y/d/N]: Exiting on user command Your transaction was saved, rerun it with: yum load-transaction /tmp/yum_save_tx.2014-05-13.12-29.5mzQEV.yumtx and defaulted back to the terminal prompt at which there was no way to continue. I reran yum load-transaction /tmp/yum_save_tx.2014-05-13.12-29.5mzQEV.yumtx which Resolved all dependencies but again defaulted back to the terminal with no way of progressing. Where do I go from here? Thanks for any assistance Roger

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Firefox and favicons
by Joachim Backes 13 May '14

13 May '14

Hi all, Since some (??) firefox version (my current version is firefox-29.0-5.fc20.x86_64) favicons don't work. I'm sure that in some earlier firefox versions they were supported. This issue seems to be distribution independent. Anybody knows when the support will resume? Kind regards Joachim Backes -- Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) Kernel-3.14.3-200.fc20.x86_64 Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de> https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/index.html

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