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BackupPC
by Ger van Dijck 23 Dec '17

23 Dec '17

Hi folks, I have a (maybe stupid) question : I have installed BackupPC , but I can not launche the application. I also can not find the app listed in Applications. So where can I find the app and start the program BackupPC ? Regards, Ger van Dijck. -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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Heads up: SATA kernel change coming to rawhide with a (small) chance of disk corruption!
by Hans de Goede 22 Dec '17

22 Dec '17

Hi All, As part of: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImprovedLaptopBatteryLife I'm pushing a change to the Fedora Rawhide kernel to enable the new med_power_with_dipm sata link powermanagement policy by default on mobile Intel chipsets (Laptops, NuCs, etc.). The good news about this change is that on laptops using a sata disk it will typically save about 1W - 1.5W of power when the laptop is idle. The bad news is that the min_power policy is known to cause data corruption with some disks (has been reported with older sandisk ssds and some crucial ssds). The new med_power_with_dipm sata lpm policy mirrors the default Windows IRST lpm settings, so it should be safe to use, but the proof is in the pudding. I've done a blog post a while back asking users to test this: https://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/18412.html and here is a list of successfully tested systens + disks: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImprovedLaptopBatteryLife#How_To_Test So far no problems have been reported but if you're running rawhide now would be a good time to make sure your backups are in order before upgrading to the next rawhide kernel. TL;DR: The next rawhide kernel build contains SATA changes which _may_ cause disk corruption, they shouldn't, but please check your backups before updating. Regards, Hans

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Missing openssl library files?
by Temlakos 22 Dec '17

22 Dec '17

Everyone: Anyone ever run into this? And how to fix it? This is a fresh install of F27. I tried to build a program called MakeMKV. Here's the output of the configure script: > checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu > checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu > checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu > checking how to print strings... printf > checking for gcc... gcc > checking whether the C compiler works... yes > checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out > checking for suffix of executables... > checking whether we are cross compiling... no > checking for suffix of object files... o > checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes > checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed > checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed > checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/bin/grep > checking for egrep... /usr/bin/grep -E > checking for fgrep... /usr/bin/grep -F > checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld > checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes > checking for BSD- or MS-compatible name lister (nm)... /usr/bin/nm -B > checking the name lister (/usr/bin/nm -B) interface... BSD nm > checking whether ln -s works... yes > checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 1572864 > checking whether the shell understands some XSI constructs... yes > checking whether the shell understands "+="... yes > checking how to convert x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu file names to > x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu format... func_convert_file_noop > checking how to convert x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu file names to > toolchain format... func_convert_file_noop > checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r > checking for objdump... objdump > checking how to recognize dependent libraries... pass_all > checking for dlltool... no > checking how to associate runtime and link libraries... printf %s\n > checking for ar... ar > checking for archiver @FILE support... @ > checking for strip... strip > checking for ranlib... ranlib > checking for gawk... gawk > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok > checking for sysroot... no > checking for mt... no > checking if : is a manifest tool... no > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E > checking for ANSI C header files... yes > checking for sys/types.h... yes > checking for sys/stat.h... yes > checking for stdlib.h... yes > checking for string.h... yes > checking for memory.h... yes > checking for strings.h... yes > checking for inttypes.h... yes > checking for stdint.h... yes > checking for unistd.h... yes > checking for dlfcn.h... yes > checking for objdir... .libs > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC -DPIC > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC -DPIC works... yes > checking if gcc static flag -static works... no > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... (cached) yes > checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports > shared libraries... yes > checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no > checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so > checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate > checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes > checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes > checking whether to build shared libraries... yes > checking whether to build static libraries... no > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes > checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed > checking for g++... no > checking for c++... no > checking for gpp... no > checking for aCC... no > checking for CC... no > checking for cxx... no > checking for cc++... no > checking for cl.exe... no > checking for FCC... no > checking for KCC... no > checking for RCC... no > checking for xlC_r... no > checking for xlC... no > checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no > checking whether g++ accepts -g... no > checking for -objcopy... no > checking for objcopy... objcopy > checking for -ld... /usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64 > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c > checking zlib.h usability... yes > checking zlib.h presence... yes > checking for zlib.h... yes > checking for compress2 in -lz... yes > checking openssl/opensslconf.h usability... no > checking openssl/opensslconf.h presence... no > checking for openssl/opensslconf.h... no > configure: error: in > `/home/Temlakos/Downloads/makemkv/makemkv-oss-1.10.8': > configure: error: openssl library header files not found > See `config.log' for more details Any ideas? Temlakos

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Where are my configuration and service management tools?
by Temlakos 22 Dec '17

22 Dec '17

Everyone: I completed my installation of solid-state drives and, of course, a new installation of F27. And now: what happened to my system configuration tools? How do I start and stop services? My biggest problem is Samba. I can't see any Windows computers on my network, and they can't see me. (I can, however, see a network printer. That, I configured in the System Settings app.) Temlakos

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How to configure Samba after fresh install of F27
by Temlakos 22 Dec '17

22 Dec '17

Everyone: This relates also to another thread I started, namely "where are my system configuration tools." This problem comes after a "clean install" of F27. My old system-config-samba applet is gone--dnf can't find it to install. And I don't see any launcher for NetworkManager or whatever I'm supposed to use. Right now, the Fedora system can't see any Windows computer on my network--can't find it even with a direct address input (and I wouldn't know how to send one.) And the Windows boxes can't see the Fedora system, either--I type "\\[hostname]" and get a message saying "Windows can't access [that host]." I've already edited the files /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts to reflect my choice of hostname. I replaced "localdomain" with "home," in keeping with the Windows domain. How can I check that the services smb, nmb, and winbind are even running? Temlakos

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Data migration for replacing HDD with SSD - suggestions?
by Temlakos 22 Dec '17

22 Dec '17

Everyone: If you have followed my threads about: SMB failing with F27 and system hanging and requring repeated restarts, then you've seen people suggest replacing my 1 TB HDD with an SSD. I acquired a 1 TB SSD and then tried to clone the HDD to the SSD. The clone /failed/. Reason: the disk is already showing some bad sectors. The outputs of satactl and fsck make that undeniably clear. On the advice of a professional installer, I have since acquired an additional SSD (capacity 120 GB) and am now acquiring a mounting bracket and some power and SATA data cables. I also downloaded the F27 KDE Plasma 5 Spin as an ".iso" image. My plan is to install F27 "clean" on the two SSD's, mounting the 120 GB SSD at root ("/") and the 1 TB SSD at /home. I must then migrate my data, browser cookies (Google Chrome, Firefox), e-mail accounts/saved/messages/other settings (Thunderbird), and documents, pictures, music, videos, and various downloads from the HDD to the SSD. This machine has 8 GB of memory on board. I now ask the community for some suggestions. First, for partitioning: 1. Should I even try to accept /automatic/ partitioning when the installer gets to that point? 2. Is 120 GB large enough for the information on the other directories besides /home? 3. Should I create a separate /boot partition on the smaller SSD, and if so, how large should I make it? 4. How large should the swap partition be, and where should I put it? (That is, on the 120 GB or the 1 TB drive)? 5. In general, should I place a partition for anything other than /home on the 1 TB SSD? Now, as regards data migration: I have three user accounts to migrate, plus another directory on /home called "lost and found." 1. Should I even try to migrate "lost and found," and if so, how? 2. I have at least two choices for migrating data and settings from the various user accounts--three for some of them. a. Connect the HDD to the SATA bus /after/ installing F27, and then force-copying everything out of each /home directory to its corresponding directory on the new configuration. (What command(s) would you recommend using, and with what options/switches/etc.?) b. Connect a large external HDD through a USB interface, transfer all the data to it before modifying the hardware, then re-transfer it to the system after installing the SSD's and F27. c. Migrate the data to its "temporary refuge" over a Samba network (possibly do-able for at least one account, and that's the biggest account) and then re-migrate to the new system? Which choice would you recommend? 3. Is it worth migrating every single hidden file or folder? Or should I select only those folders that I know contain customization, account, or similar settings, plus my saved documents/pictures/music/videos, and migrate those? Thanks in advance. Temlakos

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Can I set default network profile in NetworkManager?
by Pavel Lisý 22 Dec '17

22 Dec '17

Hi I have Fedora 26 on laptop. I have configured dhcp (client) on both ethernet and wifi (for work and home). Later in different environment I've configured second ethernet profile manually. I want let it configured for future use in that environment but now when I connect at work to ethernet I have to switch profile on ethernet connection from manual profile to dhcp profile. Is it way how to set priority on network profiles or set one profile default? I couldn't find it in documentation. Pavel -- Pavel Lisý <pavel.lisy(a)gmail.com>

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LUKS question
by Wells, Roger K. 21 Dec '17

21 Dec '17

I have existing systems with un-encrypted disks. I have tried unsuccessfully to encrypt them using LUKS. Has anyone out there been able to encrypt an existing system (after the fact, so to speak)? TIA -- Roger Wells, P.E. leidos 221 Third St Newport, RI 02840 401-847-4210 (voice) 401-849-1585 (fax) roger.k.wells(a)leidos.com

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Evolution's "To Do" pane
by Jonathan Ryshpan 20 Dec '17

20 Dec '17

I have just upgraded my system to Fedora-27, which has caused Evolution to upgrade to 3.26.3 (3.26.3-1.fc27). Evolution now has a "To Do" pane, which I don't want, since I use another program for calendar and scheduling. How can I remove the "To Do" pane? Thanks - jon

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Tweaking Fedora
by Beartooth 19 Dec '17

19 Dec '17

Within the next three weeks or so, barring any great surprises, I hope to be putting Fedora 27 onto four PCs, a laptop, and a netbook. IIRC, the netbook, which I haven't used recently, has F24 now; all the others are running 26. I'll do all I can by upgrading, because every time I do a fresh install, it costs me something more than a whole day per machine to do the tweaking I need. (I've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7; so my trifocal fingers and arthritic eyeballs know their jobs IF I get all the tweaks right -- a great boon and a bringer of cyber-survival, since I also keep getting slower and more forgetful....) A correspondent on another list says one used to be able to use Mondo Rescue to grab all the settings on an existing install and clone them onto a new one. That would save me vast tedium. But the Mondo Rescue site lists only rpms for Fedora 23 and before. And either I'm garbling my correspondent's directions, or they don't work any more -- or both. I tried a few variations on "dnf install Mondo-xyzq". I also downloaded a few .rpms from Mondo's repository and ran "rpm -ivh" against them. Both tries failed. Is there a tutorial somewhere? Has Mondo Rescue forked into something with another name? Have the Fedora Gurux and Alpha Plus Technoids come up with a replacement while I wasn't looking?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. -- /home/btth/sig/nqc

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