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Gnome Desktop no Longer Shows Application Icons on Upgrade from F25 to F26
by Stephen Morris 10 Aug '17

10 Aug '17

Hi, I have used dnf system-upgrade to upgrade my F25 system to F26 and now all the shortcuts on my Desktop no longer display their configured icons, they display a text page icon instead. Under KDE they continue to display fine. I tried looking at the properties of the thunderbird shortcut, clicked on the text icon to navigate to where the thunderbird icons were and re-selected the icon, but that made no difference to the icon displayed. Why is the upgrade from F25 to F26 now refusing to display proper icons for the shortcuts? regards, Steve

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Fedora-26: KDE Scrollbars no longer have arrows at their ends
by Jonathan Ryshpan 10 Aug '17

10 Aug '17

Just upgraded from f25 to f26. Most programs run better, but scrollbars no longer have arrows at their upper and lower ends. System Settings used to have a function to control this, but it seems to be gone, both in native KDE and Gnome applications. How are scrollbars now controlled in KDE? Thanks - jon

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pgrep -f 'foo' | wc -l -- curiousity!
by bruce 10 Aug '17

10 Aug '17

Hey peeps. From a fed/centos cmdline... pgrep -f "foo" | wc -l will return 0 -- if "foo" doesn't exist in the procTBL, and something else if "foo" is running. The curiousity... When I have a simple php <?php $f="pgrep -f 'foo' | wc -l"; $t=`$f`; print $t ?> $t isn't 0!! -- it's actually 1, or something else if foo is running.. Any ideas why?? I've used the different methods php provides to "run" shell/.cmdline processes. I get the same results. Now.. I can do something like ps aux | grep 'foo' | grep -v 'grep' | wc -l and get the correct results within the php as well as the shell. Didn't find anything via the 'net or SO on this.. Thoughts/comments??

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simple shell script question
by bruce 09 Aug '17

09 Aug '17

trying to get the following to output pgrep -f 'bash' | wc -l the var $xx has the cmd... something's missing to allow the backtics to run the cmd.. if the cmd is hadcoded.run, it works.. can't see what the homer simpson "doh" moment is! thanks #!/bin/bash # # ptest.sh # # use predefined variables to access passed arguments # # $1 aa=$1 aa='bash' echo $aa " pp" xx="pgrep -f '"${aa}"' | wc -l" echo $xx <<< this dsplays the test pgrep echo `$xx` << err msg echo `${xx}` << err msg... ## trying to get -- pgrep -f 'bash' | wc -l << ## i'm getting a Usage: pgrep [....] err msg..

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Fedora 26
by Thomas Dineen 09 Aug '17

09 Aug '17

Gentle People: I hate to interrupt your Fedora 26 party, but well here goes a dose of reality from the USER's PROSPECTIVE! 1) First of all F26's performance is very poor. its a CPU hog and DRAM ! I installed F26 in a Virtual Box (VBox) on a two processor machine and it is so slow that it is barely usable. In the _same environment_ CentOS performs with quite excellent performance. You have a massive performance problem here! 2) Your new menu system is a joke. I use the system for application code development so I want Text Editor windows and shells. Why did you hide these in the basement and the very bottom of the menu system? Also your menus are slow and cumbersome. What was wrong with the previous menu system? Is this simply change for the sake of change? Have your group been taken over by Marketing? 3) Look and feel. Why in the name of hell did you want this look and feel? I use Linux for application code development. I want Text Editors, shell Windows, gcc, gdb , and ddd. Why are all the engineering tools hidden? If I wanted the look and feel of Windows I would buy windows! 4) Text Editor: Go back to the old one it works way better! 5) Your new Services configuration is a blithering disaster! Please bring back the configuration GUIs for Services and Users. Keep in mind here I am not a Linux System administrator! I am a user! I perform a complex configuration of user and group numbers to maintain NFS compatibility with Solaris. This configuration is difficult even with the GUIs, without them forget it. 6) Cut and paste: I don't know what you did to that! (Well it use to work)! P.S. Solaris has a great User I/F GUI for cut and paste. 6) Yum and rpm: Please print to the screen the directories where S/W is installed. So that I don't have to waste time going looking for it. 7) Convenience: STOP CHANGING THE CONFIGURATION INTERFACES. Every time you change the configuration methodology we the users have to waste hours and even days learning the new configuration methodology. 8) Are you on drugs? What in the hell gave you the insane idea that a command line interface for configuration was some how better that a GUI? Please consider carefully the possibility that you are going in the wrong direction! Overall I continue to be disappointed in Fedora and thank heavens for CentOS. Thomas Dineen

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Fedora 26 boot messages -
by Bob Goodwin 09 Aug '17

09 Aug '17

I prefer not watching the blank screen with the egg turning into an F and normally remove rhgb from /etc/default/grub. That is not having the desired effect on this Fedora-26 system. [root@Box10 bobg]# grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg Generating grub configuration file ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64 Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64.img Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.11.10-300.fc26.x86_64 Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-4.11.10-300.fc26.x86_64.img Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.11.8-300.fc26.x86_64 Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-4.11.8-300.fc26.x86_64.img Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-aa89d651e4d748019730a305625d3df0 Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-0-rescue-aa89d651e4d748019730a305625d3df0.img Found Fedora 25 (Twenty Five) on /dev/sdb3 done It appears to be saving to the wrong system on another hard drive, Fedora 16 is on /dev/sda: /dev/sda4 49G 25G 22G 53% / tmpfs 3.9G 16K 3.9G 1% /tmp /dev/sda2 976M 167M 742M 19% /boot /dev/sda1 200M 9.5M 191M 5% /boot/efi /dev/sda5 858G 13G 802G 2% /home Obviously this is wrong? Whay should I be doing or is this something I can no longer change? Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-26/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3

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How to disable the Qt automatic HiDPI scaling?
by Frederic Muller 09 Aug '17

09 Aug '17

Hi! I run GNOME on a 2560x1440 resolution display where I disabled the "double scaling" (not sure how it's called). So one pixel is one dot. Unfortunately when running Qt applications such as VLC for example they autoscale to 1 dot for 4 pixels making those huge and taking most of my display area. When on dual screen they even recognize which screen is HiDPI and therefore automatically scale back on the non HiDPI screen kind of forcing me to run all my Qt apps on that external screen. Unfortunately I do not always have an external screen to save me... So is there a way (like with GNOME) to disable this feature and have Qt apps display "normally"? Thank you. Fred

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X driver -- sna vs uxa
by Jonathan Ryshpan 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be: What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration? Hardware is:4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHzSoftware is:Fedora-26 with all updatesKernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64KDE Frameworks 5.36.0 Thanks - jon

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XDG – creating submenus
by Angelo Moreschini 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

Hi, ….after installing 'libre office' on my computer, the lauchers of the various applications that are part of libre office, were visible on the desktop individually (in a separate and independent way). I wanted to group all these launchers, on my desktop, inside a “submenu” (and this accomplishment can also be a general requirement for displaying programs grupper by “categories” on the desktop ). I used the program “xdg-desktop-menu” to accomplice this purpose; so I run this command line from the terminal xdg-desktop-menu install /usr/share/desktop-directories/-kde-office.directory libreoffice-calc.desktop libreoffice-calc.desktop ibreoffice-math.desktop libreoffice-draw.desktop libreoffice-base.desktop libreoffice-impress.desktop *More clearly:* xdg-desktop-menu install (option install of the command) kde-office.directory (the <.directory file> that describe the icon and the libreoffice-calc.desktop way to present the group of programs. libreoffice-math.desktop the list all the launchers <there .desktop files> libreoffice-draw.desktop to be groupped) libreoffice-base.desktop libreoffice-impress.desktop the command created this file : /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-office.menu [angelo_dev@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-office.menu <!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN" " http://www.freedesktop.org/ <http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd>">  <Menu> <Name>Applications</Name> <Menu> <Name>kde-office</Name> <Directory>kde-office. <Include> <Filename>libreoffice-calc. <Filename>libreoffice-calc. <Filename>libreoffice-math. <Filename>libreoffice-draw. <Filename>libreoffice-base. <Filename>libreoffice-impress. </Include> </Menu> </Menu> I hoped this was enough for my purpose, but as well this, *the submenu <office> still not appears on the desktop* *W*hy this ?? how it works xdg-desktop-menu for creating submenus ??? Regards thank you

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is systemd killing my sessions?
by Neal Becker 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

Aug 7 11:07:57 nbecker7 systemd-logind: Removed session 154. I'm trying to use x2go, but it seems when I try to suspend/resume a session it isn't working - on reconnect a new session is started. Is the system? The above log message suggests maybe. In logind.conf I see: #KillUserProcesses=no Supposedly, the compiled-in default is "no", but is that not true? (I know, I could just change the file and reboot but I can't reboot this machine now).

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