smartmontools still "monitoring" a replaced hard drive. [SOLVED]
by William
Good morning everyone,
After reading all your messages (a few times), re-examining the man
pages (a few times), and re-visiting the smartmontools web site, I
believe the real problem was that I was seriously misunderstanding the
"Type" column. I thought that it meant that some attributes were
currently at "Pre-fail" levels, and the others were at "Old_age"
levels. I now understand that this column is simply telling me whether
a given attribute
a. will be an indication that the drive *might* be about to fail
if/when in the future it exceeds its threshold, or
b. is simply exceeding its expected lifetime when it exceeds its
threshold (so the threshold value is a life expectancy).
Stan asked/said:
> So, you only have a single disk in the system, /dev/sda.
correct.
> Well, the format should be the same, but surely if the driv
> was failing the overall result wasn't Passed?...
This apparently was a result of my misunderstanding the "Type" column.
I sit corrected.
> They are all defaulting to /dev/sda since it is the only
> disk on your system. A question mark means...
I now understand. Thank-you.
Tim said:
> And if you look at the label of your hard drive, you'll find...
I needed a magnifying glass to do it, but I did it. You're correct;
they match.
> ... I seriously doubt that SMART can show cached data,
> somehow. I've only ever seen it produce data that's come
> *from* a drive, there and then. Try asking it to poll a
> non-existent hard drive (e.g. sdb), and you'll see what happens.
I did it. I see the error message. Thank-you.
> Shows the drive has been on for 2,614 hours. That would be 109
> days, if it had been left on permanently. If your computer is only
> on a fraction of the day, do a bit of math to see if it fits your
>expectation.
(sigh) Now I need a calculator and a magnifying glass! (just kidding)
I did it. ...about 7 months. That's about right.
Samuel said:
> ... Is the drive somewhere where it gets a lot of vibration?
* 2 waste collection trucks each week.
* other occasional trucks (moving vans, delivery/pick-up of "roll-off"
waste containers, etc.).
* large aircraft overhead (I'm directly under one airport approachway
for the city's airport about a mile away.).
* thunder from close lightning strikes in summer thunderstorms.
Nothing really serious. But I see Tony notes the numbers are ok for
Seagate drives.
> It's getting pretty warm there.
The workstation is along the house's north wall with a window above it.
It's slightly chilly in winter (I often need to wear a windbreaker), and
slightly warm (mid 80s degrees F, about 30 degrees C in the late
afternoon) in summer.
> Do you have a copy of what it was showing last time? smartctl...
No. But I'm now convinced. Thank-you.
Tony said:
> It's normal for Seagate drives.
Good. Thank-you.
In the midst of all this, I discovered a new graphical tool for
smartmontools. It's called "GSmartControl". Its home page is here:
"https://gsmartcontrol.sourceforge.io/home/".
It's available in Fedora repositories. I installed it and tried it.
Looks good. Maybe others will find it helpful.
I thank everyone for their help. I'm marking this thread solved.
Bill.
6 years, 2 months
Non-responsive maintainer: joost
by Richard Shaw
Per the policy I am asking here if anyone knows how to get in touch with
joost (joost(a)cnoc.nl).
I have bug reports for both fpc and lazarus that have gone for weeks
without any response and it's preventing me from building cqrlog on armv7hl
in rawhide due to lazbuild and hedgewars has a segmentation fault due to a
bug in fpc.
I have tried direct emails with no response.
fedora-active-user shows no activity in 2018...
Last login in FAS:
joost 2017-12-31
Last action on koji:
Sat, 19 Aug 2017 package list entry revoked: lazarus in
module-package-list by pkgdb
Last package update on bodhi:
2017-03-29 08:48:02 on package fpc-3.0.2-1.fc26 lazarus-1.6.4-2.fc26
Last actions performed according to fedmsg:
- joost commented on bodhi update docker-1.13.1-44.git584d391.fc27
(karma: 1) on 2017-12-31 11:36:45 ()
- hobbes1069(a)gmail.com filed a new bug RHBZ#1529988 'CQRLOG fails to
build for armv7hl on F26...' on 2017-12-31 11:02:30 ()
- jreiser(a)bitwagon.com commented on RHBZ#1526848 'SIGSEGV during game
shutdown with hedgew...' on 2017-12-18 11:19:14 ()
- mattia.verga(a)email.it updated 'cc' on RHBZ#1526848 'SIGSEGV during game
shutdown with hedgew...' on 2017-12-18 04:30:24 ()
- fweimer(a)redhat.com commented on RHBZ#1526848 'SIGSEGV during game
shutdown with hedgew...' on 2017-12-18 01:39:08 ()
- airlied(a)redhat.com updated 'cc', 'component', and 'assigned_to' on
RHBZ#1526848 'SIGSEGV during game shutdown with hedgew...' on 2017-12-18
01:17:32 ()
- vascom2(a)gmail.com filed a new bug RHBZ#1525820 'Need update lazarus to
1.8.0' on 2017-12-14 00:21:33 ()
- hobbes1069(a)gmail.com commented on RHBZ#1517323 'lazbuild binary not
working on Rawhide f...' on 2017-11-24 09:33:54 ()
- hobbes1069(a)gmail.com filed a new bug RHBZ#1517323 'lazbuild binary not
working on Rawhide f...' on 2017-11-24 09:33:23 ()
- jkurik commented on RHBZ#1390060 'cqrlog does not start on raspberry pi
3' on 2017-11-16 13:04:26 ()
Last email on mailing list:
Thanks,
Richard
FAS: hobbes1069
6 years, 2 months
Scroll Bars with Arrows Wanted
by Jonathan Ryshpan
How can I set up my system so that windows have scroll bars with
arrows. The mouse scroll wheel works OK for vertical scrolling, but
not for horizontal. I now need to edit a spread sheet with 29 columns.
Grabbing the line in the scroll bar is tedious and finicky. I'd like
this for native KDE applications, Gnome applications running under KDE,
Firefox, and Chrome.
System is Fedora-27 with all updates installed.
6 years, 2 months
Python help
by Antonio M
in Python 3 if I list the modules I get this output:
/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/matplotlib/cbook.py:136:
MatplotlibDeprecationWarning: The matplotlib.delaunay module was deprecated
in version 1.4. Use matplotlib.tri.Triangulation instead.
warnings.warn(message, mplDeprecation, stacklevel=1)
/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/zmq/backend/cffi/__pycache__/_cffi_ext.c:2:10:
fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory
#include <Python.h>
^~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
Assembler messages:
Fatal error: can't create
/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/zmq/backend/cffi/__pycache__/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/zmq/backend/cffi/__pycache__/_cffi_ext.o:
Permission denied
/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/zmq/backend/cffi/__pycache__/_cffi_ext.c:2:10:
fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory
#include <Python.h>
^~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
Assembler messages:
Fatal error: can't create
/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/zmq/backend/cffi/__pycache__/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/zmq/backend/cffi/__pycache__/_cffi_ext.o:
Permission denied
IPy bz2 http reportclient
OleFileIO_PL cProfile httplib2 reprlib
OpenSSL cairo humanize requests
PIL calendar idlelib requests_file
PyQt5 caribou ++++++
augeas gnome_abrt pylab xdg
auparse gnomemusic pyorbital xdrlib
base64 gpg pyparsing xml
I tried to install with pip3 the pyorbital module (and then I uninstalled)
but since then I get this error and pyorbital is stll listed. In Python2
there is no pyorbital and I do not get any error. Any idea?? Tnx
Antonio Montagnani
Linux Fedora 27(Workstation)
da/from Gmail
6 years, 2 months
F26 suddenlty freezes (apparently due nouveau)
by Frédéric
Since 2 days ago, one of my F26 computer freezes (2 freezes in 3
days). This is what I got from journatctl just after the freeze:
Jan 24 12:05:15 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: fifo: gr engine
fault on channel 5, recovering...
Jan 24 12:05:15 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: fifo: read fault at
00053e0000 engine 00 [PGRAPH] client 07 [GPC0/] reason 02
[PAGE_NOT_PRESENT] on channel 5 [003fa82000 Xorg[993]]
Jan 24 12:05:15 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: gr: GPC0/TPC3/TEX: 80000049
Jan 24 12:05:15 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: gr: GPC0/TPC2/TEX: 80000049
Jan 24 12:05:15 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: gr: GPC0/TPC1/TEX: 80000049
Jan 24 12:05:15 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: gr: GPC0/TPC0/TEX: 80000049
Jan 24 12:05:15 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: gr: TRAP ch 5
[003fa82000 Xorg[993]]
Jan 22 18:11:24 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: Xorg[13732]: failed
to idle channel 6 [Xorg[13732]]
Jan 22 18:11:09 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: Xorg[13732]: failed
to idle channel 6 [Xorg[13732]]
Jan 22 18:10:54 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: Xorg[13732]:
channel 5 killed!
Jan 22 18:10:54 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: fifo: fifo engine
fault on channel 5, recovering...
Jan 22 18:10:54 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: fifo: read fault at
0000013000 engine 07 [PFIFO] client 07 [BAR_READ] reason 02
[PAGE_NOT_PRESENT] on channel 5 [003fa82000 Xorg[13732]]
Jan 22 18:10:54 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: Xorg[13732]: failed
to idle channel 5 [Xorg[13732]]
Jan 22 18:10:39 beta kernel: nouveau 0000:03:00.0: Xorg[13732]: failed
to idle channel 5 [Xorg[13732]]
I also found that in /var/log/Xorg.1.log:
[ 11726.843] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[ 11726.843] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version
1.4: Permission denied
but I am not sure it happened when I got the problem.
Note that only the screen freezes as I can connect by ssh and run
top... reboot did not reboot... had to turn the computer off.
The video card is: NVIDIA Corporation GF106GL [Quadro 2000]
Regards,
F
6 years, 2 months
dnf group list command is broken after system update on Fedora 27
by Sean Son
Hello all
Tonight I installed Fedora 27 and after I ran a dnf upgrade to update all
of my packages, I tried to run the dnf group list command after reboot and
I was given the following errors:
Code:
# dnf group list
Last metadata expiration check: 0:42:24 ago on Tue 23 Jan 2018 11:43:53 PM EST.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 58, in <module>
main.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 179,
in user_main
errcode = main(args)
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 64, in main
return _main(base, args, cli_class, option_parser_class)
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 99, in _main
return cli_run(cli, base)
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 115, in cli_run
cli.run()
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 1014, in run
return self.command.run()
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/cli/commands/group.py",
line 375, in run
self._grp_setup()
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/cli/commands/group.py",
line 108, in _grp_setup
self.base.read_comps(arch_filter=True)
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 550, in read_comps
self._comps._add_from_xml_filename(decompressed)
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/comps.py", line 328, in
_add_from_xml_filename
ret = comps.fromxml_f(fn)
_libpycomps.ParserError: Fatal parser error
yum group list gives me the same error as well.. Any ideas on what I should
do to fix this? It is strange that this distro's package manager would
break after a single system upgrade. All help is greatly appreciated! thanks
Sean
6 years, 2 months
KDE Applications Launcher becomes unresponsive
by Jonathan Ryshpan
If I click on the KDE Applications Launcher and then change desktops
while the Launcher popup is visible, the Launcher popup disappears
(normal) but then does not pop up when I click on the Launcher (bad);
the Launcher behaves normally otherwise. This behavior is only for my
account; using other accounts on the same machine the Launcher behaves
normally. When new launchers are installed on the taskbar they behave
in the same way.
Any ideas on how to investigate?
System:
Fedora-27
KDE Plasma 4.11
6 years, 2 months
Re: f26 systemd :: how to run tftp.service and disable tftp.socket
by Adrian Sevcenco
On 01/21/2018 04:50 PM, Francis.Montagnac(a)inria.fr wrote:
>> in which i tried to remove the socket dependency but i still have this :
>> systemctl list-dependencies tftp.service
>
>> tftp.service
>> ● ├─system.slice
>> ● └─tftp.socket
>
> The following Note (hard to find that) at the end of the man of
> systemd.unit explain why you got that:
>
> Note that dependencies (After=, etc.) cannot be reset to an empty list,
> so dependencies can only be added in drop-ins. If you want to remove
> dependencies, you have to override the entire unit.
wow! thanks a lot!!!
Adrian
6 years, 2 months
Which Mysql Packages are Better to use in Fedora 27
by Stephen Morris
Hi,
I need to install mysql for registration with netbeans for its
database interfacing processes. Looking for mysql in the repositories
I've found community-mysql and mariadb packages, does anyone have any
advice as which of those two is the better environment to use, and
whether or not the other packages in the repository that provide tools
for interfacing to mysql will function with either?
regards,
Steve
6 years, 2 months
OT - rm different on Ubuntu than Fedora
by Tim
Hi,
Off-topic, but I struck an oddity trying to help a friend using Ubuntu
send a wayward Firefox back to un-munged condition. I laboriously gave
him instructions over the phone to type in:
rm -rfd .cache/mozilla/firefox
Only to have it chuck a hissy fit and claim the options were invalid.
I tried changing the r option to R, with no further success. My quick
search for on-line man pages for Unbuntu didn't show anything different
than the options that would work in Fedora.
Surely it should have worked? My tests with a mocked up directory
structure on my Fedora installation worked without a hitch.
I did check he was in the right place, to begin with, by getting him to
first enter in:
ls .cache/mozilla/firefox
Peruse the results, then change the command at the beginning of the
line.
In the end I went through another set of laborious instructions to see
the hidden files in his file browser, and make his was through to the
right path.
It wasn't helped by his (very) old Ubuntu installation having no menus,
so had to figure out how to open a terminal without being able to see
what he was doing, likewise for where they'd stashed the file browser.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 4.14.13-200.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 11 05:43:34 UTC 2018 x86_64
Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see
the messages posted to the mailing list.
Windows, it's enough to make a grown man cry!
6 years, 2 months
